| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! 16:31 - Aug 15 with 3924 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Glad that one isn’t happening!
Had Fulham fans laughing at me when I asked their opinion!
And yes I know he’s only 22 but feel we need an experienced goalscorer up top, not another youngster that’s struggled to find the net all career.
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 16:32 - Aug 15 with 3561 views | FromReuserWithLove |
Like when we had Blackburn and Weds fans laughing at us about Hirst? |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 16:41 - Aug 15 with 3438 views | LeistonBlue |
What are these “goal scoring problems” you speak of? Don’t think we’ve had that issue since a man called Paul was in charge! |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 16:54 - Aug 15 with 3278 views | Wickets |
Maybe you can find us one in Lancashire? |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 16:56 - Aug 15 with 3247 views | dirtyboy |
Broja has a great touch, strong, fast....just like Hirst, and, let's be honest...better.
If you don't think Broja would have been a great addition, then I don't know what shop window you think we should be shopping!!! |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:02 - Aug 15 with 3161 views | HighgateBlue |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 16:41 - Aug 15 by LeistonBlue |
What are these “goal scoring problems” you speak of? Don’t think we’ve had that issue since a man called Paul was in charge! |
Well I guess it's a reference to the fact that Hirst is injured, Moore performed for us at the business end of last season but went back to his parent club, Delap is still only 21, the mega prolific Kayden Jackson was released, and our other striker is someone that Charlton didn't seem to want in League One.
Personally I'm not worried because we have contributors to the goals tally across the squad, but I think there is a need for another piece of the jigsaw to be inserted (rather than a 'problem' to solve, per se), and I agree with the OP that Broja may very well not have been the correct fit for our needs. |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:04 - Aug 15 with 3129 views | cressi |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 16:56 - Aug 15 by dirtyboy |
Broja has a great touch, strong, fast....just like Hirst, and, let's be honest...better.
If you don't think Broja would have been a great addition, then I don't know what shop window you think we should be shopping!!! |
I'm not a Broja fan but could understand the likeness to Hirst maybe in the way he plays we need at least one striker maybe two wish we would look elsewhere. |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:07 - Aug 15 with 3084 views | bournemouthblue |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:02 - Aug 15 by HighgateBlue |
Well I guess it's a reference to the fact that Hirst is injured, Moore performed for us at the business end of last season but went back to his parent club, Delap is still only 21, the mega prolific Kayden Jackson was released, and our other striker is someone that Charlton didn't seem to want in League One.
Personally I'm not worried because we have contributors to the goals tally across the squad, but I think there is a need for another piece of the jigsaw to be inserted (rather than a 'problem' to solve, per se), and I agree with the OP that Broja may very well not have been the correct fit for our needs. |
There's Ali Al-Hamadi also but is recovering after an op?
We certainly need another player ideally with some Pl experience |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:11 - Aug 15 with 3001 views | Ryorry |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:02 - Aug 15 by HighgateBlue |
Well I guess it's a reference to the fact that Hirst is injured, Moore performed for us at the business end of last season but went back to his parent club, Delap is still only 21, the mega prolific Kayden Jackson was released, and our other striker is someone that Charlton didn't seem to want in League One.
Personally I'm not worried because we have contributors to the goals tally across the squad, but I think there is a need for another piece of the jigsaw to be inserted (rather than a 'problem' to solve, per se), and I agree with the OP that Broja may very well not have been the correct fit for our needs. |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:14 - Aug 15 with 2933 views | Meadowlark |
"Goal scoring problems???" |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:19 - Aug 15 with 2838 views | Len_Brennan |
The way we play under McKenna means that we look to have a centre forward up front, as opposed to what is thought of as a striker (Owen, Defoe, Aguero type finishers).
In that way the CF is looked to for his whole game, & his goal scored tally is not the true measure of his worth. Hirst explained this in an interview last year, where he talked about how KMcK had reassured him that he was happy with his contribution after his first few matches, despite a lack of goals.
The goals were coming from all over the pitch, & then, with a renewed confidence in himself, the goals came for Hirst too.
Delap has been looking similar to early days Hirst & I'm sure Broja would really prosper in that set up here too.
I would really like us to get this one over the line, even though it seems unlikely. | | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:20 - Aug 15 with 2829 views | _clive_baker_ |
Inclined to agree tbh, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
I'm nervous that we have 1 fit #9 in Delap, who himself is raw and inexperienced, but I'm not overly convinced Broja is the recruit we need. Of course in KM I trust and would back him if he joined, but he's not one that excites me massively based on what I've seen of him. Certainly need another 1 at least though, and to get Hirst fit ASAP. |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:46 - Aug 15 with 2636 views | Mullet |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:20 - Aug 15 by _clive_baker_ |
Inclined to agree tbh, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
I'm nervous that we have 1 fit #9 in Delap, who himself is raw and inexperienced, but I'm not overly convinced Broja is the recruit we need. Of course in KM I trust and would back him if he joined, but he's not one that excites me massively based on what I've seen of him. Certainly need another 1 at least though, and to get Hirst fit ASAP. |
I’d really like us to sign him. Think he’d thrive here in this team.
£30m sounds a lot, but we are now in the monopoly money league and dropping £10m on a loan. If it means we have to buy him rather than loan him and we can get the deal done, I’d not be against it at all.
Think we are bottom of the league in terms of attractiveness so we need to leverage money and McKenna as much as possible. |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:48 - Aug 15 with 2618 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:46 - Aug 15 by Mullet |
I’d really like us to sign him. Think he’d thrive here in this team.
£30m sounds a lot, but we are now in the monopoly money league and dropping £10m on a loan. If it means we have to buy him rather than loan him and we can get the deal done, I’d not be against it at all.
Think we are bottom of the league in terms of attractiveness so we need to leverage money and McKenna as much as possible. |
I think there might be a gap between what Chelsea say they want and what they know they'll get. Didn't they start at something nuts like £50m for him? Wouldn't surprise me if the figure is more like £20m.
Edit: 'Stylistically' I like him. We absolutely need to strengthen in that position, I just question if there's value at anything close what Chelsea are asking for him. At £15m he's a punt (as ridiculous as that sounds) in the Delap mould. At £30m+ its potentially a bloody expensive mistake. [Post edited 15 Aug 2024 17:50]
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:51 - Aug 15 with 2530 views | SheffordBlue |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:48 - Aug 15 by _clive_baker_ |
I think there might be a gap between what Chelsea say they want and what they know they'll get. Didn't they start at something nuts like £50m for him? Wouldn't surprise me if the figure is more like £20m.
Edit: 'Stylistically' I like him. We absolutely need to strengthen in that position, I just question if there's value at anything close what Chelsea are asking for him. At £15m he's a punt (as ridiculous as that sounds) in the Delap mould. At £30m+ its potentially a bloody expensive mistake. [Post edited 15 Aug 2024 17:50]
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Loan with a buy commitment if we stay up might be a way of getting closer to what they value him at (and what we might be able to afford under FFP this season). | |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:57 - Aug 15 with 2421 views | Cafe_Newman |
" not another youngster that’s struggled to find the net all career".
You're going to have to help me out with previous examples. |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:03 - Aug 15 with 2334 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:14 - Aug 15 by Meadowlark |
"Goal scoring problems???" |
As in Hurst out, Delap not exactly a proven goal scorer and Freddie the only other option! | |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:06 - Aug 15 with 2270 views | MattinLondon |
Considering what KM has managed to achieve here I trust his opinion on players. Think the least KM deserves is for fans to have faith on his judgement on who we need. |  | | |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:07 - Aug 15 with 2254 views | LankHenners |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:48 - Aug 15 by _clive_baker_ |
I think there might be a gap between what Chelsea say they want and what they know they'll get. Didn't they start at something nuts like £50m for him? Wouldn't surprise me if the figure is more like £20m.
Edit: 'Stylistically' I like him. We absolutely need to strengthen in that position, I just question if there's value at anything close what Chelsea are asking for him. At £15m he's a punt (as ridiculous as that sounds) in the Delap mould. At £30m+ its potentially a bloody expensive mistake. [Post edited 15 Aug 2024 17:50]
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They've put themselves into a bit of a corner with signing about 84 players. BBC reporting they might have to permanently sell some players rather than loan them out as you can only loan out 6 to overseas clubs which shrinks the pool of potential destinations.
Might be able to negotiate a lower fee because of that (if we are pushing for a permanent deal) but I agree with you that, while I'm sure McKenna would say he's not signing anyone if he didn't think they'd be ready to make an immediate impact, Delap himself is a bit of a project with Broja not a whole lot further down the line developmentally. |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:09 - Aug 15 with 2218 views | Ryorry |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:46 - Aug 15 by Mullet |
I’d really like us to sign him. Think he’d thrive here in this team.
£30m sounds a lot, but we are now in the monopoly money league and dropping £10m on a loan. If it means we have to buy him rather than loan him and we can get the deal done, I’d not be against it at all.
Think we are bottom of the league in terms of attractiveness so we need to leverage money and McKenna as much as possible. |
I just don't buy this oft-stated argument that we're "bottom of the league in terms of attractiveness". Two other clubs came up with us, Leicester face points deductions - and I hardly think Forest can be viewed as an attractive proposition!
Plus McKenna will be a huge draw for players wanting to improve. | |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:19 - Aug 15 with 2097 views | FrimleyBlue |
He's like a thinner more agile keiffer moore. |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:44 - Aug 15 with 1964 views | Coastalblue |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 18:09 - Aug 15 by Ryorry |
I just don't buy this oft-stated argument that we're "bottom of the league in terms of attractiveness". Two other clubs came up with us, Leicester face points deductions - and I hardly think Forest can be viewed as an attractive proposition!
Plus McKenna will be a huge draw for players wanting to improve. |
While I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, I think you're wrong about Forest. I think they've done very good business, have bedded in after a sticky start and will be on an upward trajectory short term at least, and think they will be viewed that way.
I'll be amazed if they're not mid table this season. |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 19:01 - Aug 15 with 1862 views | Mullet |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:48 - Aug 15 by _clive_baker_ |
I think there might be a gap between what Chelsea say they want and what they know they'll get. Didn't they start at something nuts like £50m for him? Wouldn't surprise me if the figure is more like £20m.
Edit: 'Stylistically' I like him. We absolutely need to strengthen in that position, I just question if there's value at anything close what Chelsea are asking for him. At £15m he's a punt (as ridiculous as that sounds) in the Delap mould. At £30m+ its potentially a bloody expensive mistake. [Post edited 15 Aug 2024 17:50]
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Definitely but I think we also have to guard against being held with too big of a sell in % too as the initial price drops. Something tells me they won’t drop much lower when they know they can loan him out to lots of clubs.
Chelsea are looking like this divisions Blackburn when it comes to doing deals, but I also think Broja is the type of signing who will thrive on being the main man here. With Delap in place and Hirst to come back it means the we probably have a lot of youngsters leading the line, but their unpredictability and desire might count for a lot given what we ask of our 9s | |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 19:21 - Aug 15 with 1774 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
There could be all sorts of reasons they were laughing at you Wallers. |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 19:30 - Aug 15 with 1718 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 17:19 - Aug 15 by Len_Brennan |
The way we play under McKenna means that we look to have a centre forward up front, as opposed to what is thought of as a striker (Owen, Defoe, Aguero type finishers).
In that way the CF is looked to for his whole game, & his goal scored tally is not the true measure of his worth. Hirst explained this in an interview last year, where he talked about how KMcK had reassured him that he was happy with his contribution after his first few matches, despite a lack of goals.
The goals were coming from all over the pitch, & then, with a renewed confidence in himself, the goals came for Hirst too.
Delap has been looking similar to early days Hirst & I'm sure Broja would really prosper in that set up here too.
I would really like us to get this one over the line, even though it seems unlikely. |
Quite. It’s hardly a surprise that we’d be after someone like Broja. Kieffer did well and got us out of a hole last season, but as soon as Hirst came back you could see the difference and how a more mobile forward suited our overall game.
Whoever it is does need to chip in with a decent number of goals, as Hirst does. They can’t just be a runner, and Broja has been a bit light so far so I can understand why people may not think he’s a good idea. But he’s also only really had one full season when he was 20. If KM thinks he’s ideal for the way we play and he can get him firing into say double figures, that would do us nicely. |  |
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| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 20:07 - Aug 15 with 1569 views | Ipswich24 |
| Broja not the answer to our goal scoring problems! on 19:30 - Aug 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite. It’s hardly a surprise that we’d be after someone like Broja. Kieffer did well and got us out of a hole last season, but as soon as Hirst came back you could see the difference and how a more mobile forward suited our overall game.
Whoever it is does need to chip in with a decent number of goals, as Hirst does. They can’t just be a runner, and Broja has been a bit light so far so I can understand why people may not think he’s a good idea. But he’s also only really had one full season when he was 20. If KM thinks he’s ideal for the way we play and he can get him firing into say double figures, that would do us nicely. |
I would love Latte Lath |  |
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