| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. 17:37 - Aug 27 with 3113 views | itfcjoe |
…presumably it means the senior players not in the 25 are Edmundson, Taylor, Harness and Ladapo as we need to keep Al-Hamadi around.
Must be a tough one for them to take, as probably felt as though Taylor and Harness were fighting it out for last spot but this move will change that - does it leave us a body light in CM? Most likely but sacrifice has to be made somewhere |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:43 - Aug 27 with 2964 views | homer_123 |
It's the cold hard reality though, sadly.
Be gutted for them all. |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:44 - Aug 27 with 2955 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I guess when we got promoted all of those knew there was a chance they wouldn't make it.
Like KM mentioned about Jackson though, they can go on to have good Championship careers.
Johnson did mention that hes played CM in the past. Not ideal, but a back up option. |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:45 - Aug 27 with 2912 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I wouldn't be completely surprised if Al-Hamidi stayed around as a de-registered player.
If as is speculated we sign a third senior striker who is fit to play, that would leave little to no playing time for Ali from the middle of October onwards.
It would be way more valuable to have Taylor as a 5th CM/ 3rd CAM than Ali as a 4th striker. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 17:47]
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:49 - Aug 27 with 2818 views | SitfcB |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:45 - Aug 27 by Bellevue_Blue |
I wouldn't be completely surprised if Al-Hamidi stayed around as a de-registered player.
If as is speculated we sign a third senior striker who is fit to play, that would leave little to no playing time for Ali from the middle of October onwards.
It would be way more valuable to have Taylor as a 5th CM/ 3rd CAM than Ali as a 4th striker. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 17:47]
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Ali doesn’t count towards the squad I think. |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:51 - Aug 27 with 2773 views | bournemouthblue |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:49 - Aug 27 by SitfcB |
Ali doesn’t count towards the squad I think. |
I was thinking that too, is that still the case? |  |
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| Personally I think.... on 17:52 - Aug 27 with 2762 views | Bloots |
....the Ogbene signing is maybe a step too far.
I worry slightly that our transfer dealings are being effected by the current injury situation too much.
If you look at our "right sided" players (and I appreciate that some can play elsewhere) we are looking at:
Wolf
Axel
O'Shea
Clarke
Johnson
Burns
Omari
Ogbene
That's 8 players for 3 positions, and you could even add in Delap when everyone is fit, making 9.
It seems excessive to me, particularly when you look at 4 players covering the 2 CM positions.
Overall I think it lacks a bit of balance, especially when everyone is fit. |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:53 - Aug 27 with 2697 views | Vegtablue |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:51 - Aug 27 by bournemouthblue |
I was thinking that too, is that still the case? |
No he's an old boy now. | | | |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 17:53 - Aug 27 with 2686 views | HighgateBlue |
Good luck to any players that we let go. They have given their best and been part of an incredible ride.
I think before his really positive pre-season most thought that Harness would make way. And Taylor, although we spent some proper money on him (at the time), and there was a fair amount of hype from his selling club, he's only started one more league game for us than Luongo did as a nipper in 2012 (both in the same division, as it happens). That is not to disparage Taylor at all, but he was very much a substitute in the Championship. If we are bringing in around 11 new players, it makes sense that those who were subs last season will be the vulnerable ones. |  | | |
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| Personally I think.... on 17:55 - Aug 27 with 2614 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Personally I think.... on 17:52 - Aug 27 by Bloots |
....the Ogbene signing is maybe a step too far.
I worry slightly that our transfer dealings are being effected by the current injury situation too much.
If you look at our "right sided" players (and I appreciate that some can play elsewhere) we are looking at:
Wolf
Axel
O'Shea
Clarke
Johnson
Burns
Omari
Ogbene
That's 8 players for 3 positions, and you could even add in Delap when everyone is fit, making 9.
It seems excessive to me, particularly when you look at 4 players covering the 2 CM positions.
Overall I think it lacks a bit of balance, especially when everyone is fit. |
KM clearly wants someone with lightning pace to share the load with Burns.
In that role, to play in the same way as Burns, its really only 2 players covering one role / position.
OShea and Woolf are not right sided players. They are central, albeit right of centre. They can be removed from the conversation. | |
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| Personally I think.... on 18:02 - Aug 27 with 2398 views | Vegtablue |
| Personally I think.... on 17:55 - Aug 27 by Marshalls_Mullet |
KM clearly wants someone with lightning pace to share the load with Burns.
In that role, to play in the same way as Burns, its really only 2 players covering one role / position.
OShea and Woolf are not right sided players. They are central, albeit right of centre. They can be removed from the conversation. |
And Omari has spoken before of his best position being in the middle. He isn't rapid like the other two or Clarke on the left. | | | |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 18:04 - Aug 27 with 2336 views | Horsham |
A little bit surprised we’re not more inclined to let Slicker go out as it’s more likely that Taylor or Harness will get minutes than our third keeper. |  | | |
| Personally I think.... on 18:05 - Aug 27 with 2319 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Personally I think.... on 17:52 - Aug 27 by Bloots |
....the Ogbene signing is maybe a step too far.
I worry slightly that our transfer dealings are being effected by the current injury situation too much.
If you look at our "right sided" players (and I appreciate that some can play elsewhere) we are looking at:
Wolf
Axel
O'Shea
Clarke
Johnson
Burns
Omari
Ogbene
That's 8 players for 3 positions, and you could even add in Delap when everyone is fit, making 9.
It seems excessive to me, particularly when you look at 4 players covering the 2 CM positions.
Overall I think it lacks a bit of balance, especially when everyone is fit. |
Think we absolutely need Ogbene, we miss Burns too much. Be surprised if we don't include Taylor in the squad, is there absolutely no room for him? |  |
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| Personally I think.... on 18:07 - Aug 27 with 2269 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Personally I think.... on 17:52 - Aug 27 by Bloots |
....the Ogbene signing is maybe a step too far.
I worry slightly that our transfer dealings are being effected by the current injury situation too much.
If you look at our "right sided" players (and I appreciate that some can play elsewhere) we are looking at:
Wolf
Axel
O'Shea
Clarke
Johnson
Burns
Omari
Ogbene
That's 8 players for 3 positions, and you could even add in Delap when everyone is fit, making 9.
It seems excessive to me, particularly when you look at 4 players covering the 2 CM positions.
Overall I think it lacks a bit of balance, especially when everyone is fit. |
O'Shea and Wolf are central defenders, albeit right sided ones, but I wouldn't include them in that list.
As for Clarke he isn't a) fit or b) good enough.
Omari will play #10.
We're really just talking Johnson or Tuanzebe at RB, and Burns or Ogbene for RW aren't we? 2 players for each position. |  | | |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 18:07 - Aug 27 with 2254 views | cressi |
I think 2 strikers will come in including Broja one who can play now Ladapo will be paid up al Hamadi will go out on loan. | | | |
| Personally I think.... on 18:11 - Aug 27 with 2183 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Personally I think.... on 17:52 - Aug 27 by Bloots |
....the Ogbene signing is maybe a step too far.
I worry slightly that our transfer dealings are being effected by the current injury situation too much.
If you look at our "right sided" players (and I appreciate that some can play elsewhere) we are looking at:
Wolf
Axel
O'Shea
Clarke
Johnson
Burns
Omari
Ogbene
That's 8 players for 3 positions, and you could even add in Delap when everyone is fit, making 9.
It seems excessive to me, particularly when you look at 4 players covering the 2 CM positions.
Overall I think it lacks a bit of balance, especially when everyone is fit. |
IMO it's not really anything besides very healthy competition which all PL sides have.
RCB - Wolf/ O'Shea
RB - Tuanzebe/ Johnson/ Clarke (return date tbc)
RW - Omari/ Ogbene/ Burns (returned date tbc)
You have to factor in the fact that injuries will happen but even during those periods two for every position is what we should be striving for.
The likelihood of everyone being fit is low but if they are then we are in a very fortunate position and will have a very strong bench.
IMO it is in fact very balanced. We have at least two players for every position and we have the versatility if we encounter issues.
Tuanzebe can play RCB & RB. Johnson can play RB & RWB. Ogbene can play RWB & RW. Omari RW & CAM. Delap can play RW & ST | | | |
| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 18:12 - Aug 27 with 2150 views | PioneerBlue |
Ogbene makes a lot of sense. The team doesn’t currently function in the same way when we remove Burns. That leads to a different question but with the pursuit of Ogbene it probably answers how we intend to set up going forwards which is more of the same unless the opposition demands something tweaked. | |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 18:17 - Aug 27 with 2060 views | Vaughan8 |
I can't believe we would only have 4 Central midfielders of which we have Luongo and Phillips (injury prone), Morsy (card prone) and for me anyway, an unknown quantity in the Napoli guy (who we don't really know how he'll do/adapt).
I think Taylor will make it based on that.
Could it be possible someone like Broadhead won't make the squad? How long is he out for? [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 18:17]
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| Personally I think.... on 18:19 - Aug 27 with 1987 views | MK1 |
| Personally I think.... on 17:52 - Aug 27 by Bloots |
....the Ogbene signing is maybe a step too far.
I worry slightly that our transfer dealings are being effected by the current injury situation too much.
If you look at our "right sided" players (and I appreciate that some can play elsewhere) we are looking at:
Wolf
Axel
O'Shea
Clarke
Johnson
Burns
Omari
Ogbene
That's 8 players for 3 positions, and you could even add in Delap when everyone is fit, making 9.
It seems excessive to me, particularly when you look at 4 players covering the 2 CM positions.
Overall I think it lacks a bit of balance, especially when everyone is fit. |
The only thing I would say against that is that a few of those players are versatile. Hutchinson can play 10. Ogbene can play 10 & left. H. Clarke will probably be loaned out once back to fitness, so maybe January. Burns must be under threat as well now. Pretty sure Chaplin will be moved on in either January or at the end of the season. We have signed a lot of players in the advanced positions, so those that were here are now squad or surplus. Saddens me a bit, I thought they would have been given more of a chance to prove themselves, but I guess this is modern football and PL football especially. |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 18:25 - Aug 27 with 1837 views | Trequartista |
Would rather ditch Luongo or Harry Clarke than Taylor. Think Taylor can play further forward and come on sub if we are defending as a withdrawn attacking midfielder. Tuanzebe looks the part at right-back or right-centre back in a 5, so might have to sacrifice Harry until January especially with his injury. I think its a step too far for Luongo also. |  |
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| If it is Broja and Ogbene…. on 18:33 - Aug 27 with 1706 views | J2BLUE |
Really feel for Taylor and Harness. Taylor never really been given an extended chance but that's not anyone's fault. We've just risen like a rocket.
I would like to see Taylor go on loan if he does leave. Just in case we go back down. Hopefully he would have a good season and be ready to step back in.
Nowadays I almost expect these owners to pull a rabbit out of the hat at any time so could we see an U21 midfield loanee and a striker on a permanent deal? |  |
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| Personally I think.... on 18:43 - Aug 27 with 1581 views | Vegtablue |
| Personally I think.... on 18:07 - Aug 27 by _clive_baker_ |
O'Shea and Wolf are central defenders, albeit right sided ones, but I wouldn't include them in that list.
As for Clarke he isn't a) fit or b) good enough.
Omari will play #10.
We're really just talking Johnson or Tuanzebe at RB, and Burns or Ogbene for RW aren't we? 2 players for each position. |
This is how I think I see it mostly when(/if) Burns and Ogbene share a period of sustained fitness and form together.
My small question mark surrounds the jackpot of Broja, Hirst and Delap all being fully fit at one stage. If we are that fortunate for much of the season, has Delap been signed as a serious contender for out wide as well? Broja is presumably close to signing with expectations (ours as much as his) he'll become our first-choice striker in due course. Is the feeling that Hirst may be squeezed out with the luxury of everyone fit and firing, or that he and Broja are more likely to share responsibility with Delap seen elsewhere?
*Harry played most or all of last season with his achilles trouble so I don't wish to bet against his ability to step up. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 18:48]
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