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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? 13:39 - Jan 11 with 18572 viewsITFC_Forever

Or am I worrying about nothing?

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:41 - Jan 11 with 9382 viewsRegencyBlue

Given the shenanigans in the summer and the fact his agent came across as a right plank it does make you wonder!
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:42 - Jan 11 with 9357 viewsTrequartista

I would guess it is in doubt now if nothing's happened for 48 hours.

Presumably over clauses such as matching rights and sell-ons etc.

Wish they'd sort them out first before the player does the medical.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:43 - Jan 11 with 9289 viewsFrimleyBlue

Depends if his agent is happy with it being town

On 4th Jan he was Touting him for fenebarche

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:45 - Jan 11 with 9207 viewscressi

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:42 - Jan 11 by Trequartista

I would guess it is in doubt now if nothing's happened for 48 hours.

Presumably over clauses such as matching rights and sell-ons etc.

Wish they'd sort them out first before the player does the medical.


I do wonder I guess we will no Monday he will be popular if in the end goes elsewhere and plays against us, to be honest we don't no the issue but I only want players who want to be here.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:46 - Jan 11 with 9167 viewsCafe_Newman

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:41 - Jan 11 by RegencyBlue

Given the shenanigans in the summer and the fact his agent came across as a right plank it does make you wonder!


JP's agent being an absolute twonk is the only certainty here.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:47 - Jan 11 with 9099 viewsberkstractorboy

Personally don't think it happens now, can't see what takes 1.5 days to resolve in paperwork and if its the agents terms, if we were happy it could be fixed quickly to drag on seems strange. Maybe if the agent wants more we have gone back to Villa to lower price to cover those costs and Villa also discussing with agent! I suspect for PSR reasons Villa are keen to sell so want a deal to happen with some club.

I find the lack of media comment interesting as Fabrizio, Sky must know from sources but guess its a case they will only reporting 'deal breaking down' once they know it has. Feels like there is a decision to be made by someone.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:50 - Jan 11 with 8997 viewsFrimleyBlue

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:47 - Jan 11 by berkstractorboy

Personally don't think it happens now, can't see what takes 1.5 days to resolve in paperwork and if its the agents terms, if we were happy it could be fixed quickly to drag on seems strange. Maybe if the agent wants more we have gone back to Villa to lower price to cover those costs and Villa also discussing with agent! I suspect for PSR reasons Villa are keen to sell so want a deal to happen with some club.

I find the lack of media comment interesting as Fabrizio, Sky must know from sources but guess its a case they will only reporting 'deal breaking down' once they know it has. Feels like there is a decision to be made by someone.


It does seem a bit weird


Player comes for medical
Not available for Sunday
Might be available for Thursday
Delays due to amount of paperwork
Mckenna didn't really sound positive despite following his usual and rightful non talk of other clubs players.. but it still seemed a bit odd
We ve seen his agent games before
Villa seem really happy to get rid which is odd.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:53 - Jan 11 with 8885 viewsRyorry

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:47 - Jan 11 by berkstractorboy

Personally don't think it happens now, can't see what takes 1.5 days to resolve in paperwork and if its the agents terms, if we were happy it could be fixed quickly to drag on seems strange. Maybe if the agent wants more we have gone back to Villa to lower price to cover those costs and Villa also discussing with agent! I suspect for PSR reasons Villa are keen to sell so want a deal to happen with some club.

I find the lack of media comment interesting as Fabrizio, Sky must know from sources but guess its a case they will only reporting 'deal breaking down' once they know it has. Feels like there is a decision to be made by someone.


Sounds like agent holding us/and or Villa to ransom.

I'd question player's judgement in sticking with that agent first of all; & then listening to him over McKenna (if agent is holding out for more dosh or extras).

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:54 - Jan 11 with 8875 viewsvilanovablue

I think people are worrying about nothing the paperwork is probably quite complex and there are a lot of fine details to work through. Remember how long McKenna's contract took to resolve.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:55 - Jan 11 with 8854 viewsIllinoisblue

Does seem a bit odd. We had the double green light of Fabrizio saying here we go, and then Phil confirming it was a done deal on here in one of the threads. That all seems a long time ago now.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:55 - Jan 11 with 8855 viewsAero

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:50 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue

It does seem a bit weird


Player comes for medical
Not available for Sunday
Might be available for Thursday
Delays due to amount of paperwork
Mckenna didn't really sound positive despite following his usual and rightful non talk of other clubs players.. but it still seemed a bit odd
We ve seen his agent games before
Villa seem really happy to get rid which is odd.


May have something to do with Moyes going in at Everton.

I guess they are more inviting with a manager that isn't about to be sacked.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:56 - Jan 11 with 8791 viewsgainsboroughblue

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:55 - Jan 11 by Illinoisblue

Does seem a bit odd. We had the double green light of Fabrizio saying here we go, and then Phil confirming it was a done deal on here in one of the threads. That all seems a long time ago now.


Well, if it does collapse, we can't say we weren't pre-warned.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:57 - Jan 11 with 8715 viewsFrimleyBlue

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:54 - Jan 11 by vilanovablue

I think people are worrying about nothing the paperwork is probably quite complex and there are a lot of fine details to work through. Remember how long McKenna's contract took to resolve.


Whilst true

Deadline day for clubs


... has completed the signing of... pending completed paperwork etc.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:14 - Jan 11 with 8300 viewsNutkins_Return

Think people just need to calm down to be honest. There is obviously some delay but to go from defo coming to some saying don't think it's happening is a massive overreaction as frustrating as it is.

I think you'd have to say there is a small chance it won't get fixed but most likely no issues. It's 90% still going to happen folks! Chill

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:16 - Jan 11 with 8232 viewsAYACCA

Don't worry about things beyond your control
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:17 - Jan 11 with 8200 viewshammo56

Not bothered if it does fall through as feel we are paying over the odds for him.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:18 - Jan 11 with 8178 viewsfootball

People need to chill. dont think he would have come for a medical if things weren't close, but paperwork takes time and it is the weekend with several people at the club engaged with FACup matters and Villa in FACup action yesterday.
As for not being available Sunday, Transformarkt has him as being out through injury til next week anyway, so doubt he would have featured.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:18 - Jan 11 with 8160 viewsVic

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:54 - Jan 11 by vilanovablue

I think people are worrying about nothing the paperwork is probably quite complex and there are a lot of fine details to work through. Remember how long McKenna's contract took to resolve.


I’d like to agree with you, but something doesn’t feel right about this now.

1. Why should JP’s paperwork be more complicated that other players. We’ve signed loads, none seem to take this long
2. His agent has form for playing silly baggers.
3. Its unusual for a club to sell a player after just 6 months
4. Dick Emery’s comments about him going were somewhat mysterious the other day
5. KM’s comments were unusually vague in the presser

All adds up to making me doubt it will happen, and even if it does it’s not a great way to start at a club is it.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:20 - Jan 11 with 8093 viewsFrimleyBlue

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:17 - Jan 11 by hammo56

Not bothered if it does fall through as feel we are paying over the odds for him.


I'd be bothered mainly because it has an effect on our business in the rest of the window or are we missing out on a player as we wait for philogene etc.

I'm an impatient sod anyway. But having medicals one morning and no transfer confirmation after is always a strange one and allows anything to happen in-between.

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:22 - Jan 11 with 8045 viewsbilllm

Starting to look feel wrong,
If it's not done by Monday we need to accept he will not be in a town shirt and stop wasting valuable time AGAIN,
mckenna's tone says a lot
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:23 - Jan 11 with 7992 viewsFrimleyBlue

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:22 - Jan 11 by billlm

Starting to look feel wrong,
If it's not done by Monday we need to accept he will not be in a town shirt and stop wasting valuable time AGAIN,
mckenna's tone says a lot


KM did seem really down about it.

I don't really understand why he doesn't feel comfortable saying yeah met jaden this morning for his medical. Looking forward to working with him.
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:24 - Jan 11 with 7988 viewsTractorWood

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:14 - Jan 11 by Nutkins_Return

Think people just need to calm down to be honest. There is obviously some delay but to go from defo coming to some saying don't think it's happening is a massive overreaction as frustrating as it is.

I think you'd have to say there is a small chance it won't get fixed but most likely no issues. It's 90% still going to happen folks! Chill


He looks a great talent but can't say I'm that fussed. Would much rather have CM, Striker or CB enforcements.

Reminds me slightly of when McCarthy would moan about our squad and then only sign wingers.
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I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:25 - Jan 11 with 7940 viewsNutkins_Return

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:22 - Jan 11 by billlm

Starting to look feel wrong,
If it's not done by Monday we need to accept he will not be in a town shirt and stop wasting valuable time AGAIN,
mckenna's tone says a lot


Why do we need to accept that. I mean if it can be sorted by the Tuesday I can wait. 😂

I accept this is annoying though

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:25 - Jan 11 with 7926 viewsPioneerBlue

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Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 14:25 - Jan 11 with 7933 viewsbsw72

Anyone got a feeling the Philogene signing isn’t going to happen? on 13:50 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue

It does seem a bit weird


Player comes for medical
Not available for Sunday
Might be available for Thursday
Delays due to amount of paperwork
Mckenna didn't really sound positive despite following his usual and rightful non talk of other clubs players.. but it still seemed a bit odd
We ve seen his agent games before
Villa seem really happy to get rid which is odd.


Was always very unlikely to be available for Sunday as the medical was on Thurs and registration would have to have been all sorted Friday for weekend game.

I would imagine there is an element of financial details to work out across Villa and therefore Hull payments as he was only transferred in August, and that was a reasonably complex transaction due to the way that the calculations had to be done because of the sell on discount etc.

Add to that the fact that because he has not necessarily asked for the transfer but Villa have decided to sell he would likely be due any part of the Villa contract relating to annual bonus/loyalty payments, that is probably being negotiated.

I think everyone is always thinking the worst, but in reality it’s only been 4-5 days.
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