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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. 09:04 - Jan 30 with 19209 viewsNthQldITFC

Irresponsible, cowardly, Tory-lite failures.

Gutless apologists for the obscene, unequal, rabid capitalism-driven destruction of nature and of our children's futures.

Arseholes.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:08 - Jan 30 with 7312 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

I think you need to stop sitting on the fence - tell us what you REALLY think of them…
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:11 - Jan 30 with 7278 viewshype313

It's not been the best start for them has it? They are both looking completely out of their depth and already scrambling around for new ideas and polices.

Also sounds like there are serious fractures within the cabinet.

But given Rachel's previous experience of complaint handling, she should be well prepped to deal with all of that.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:33 - Jan 30 with 7126 viewsNthQldITFC

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:08 - Jan 30 by SuperKieranMcKenna

I think you need to stop sitting on the fence - tell us what you REALLY think of them…


Without the expletives and unchecked release of anger, I think that they have clearly demonstrated that their direction of travel is 180° from that which is required by a courageous and responsible government at a time when, worldwide, brave and honest leadership is the only thing that might mitigate disaster for the human race and the planet Earth.

They have badly let down you and me and every other person they represent, whether we know it or not, whether we are prepared to face reality or not.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:34 - Jan 30 with 7125 viewsBasuco

Almost like they are running the Country properly, not running it into the ground like the previous Government did. At least they are not giving large chunks of public money to friends, family and party donors.
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:37 - Jan 30 with 7100 viewsblueasfook

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:33 - Jan 30 by NthQldITFC

Without the expletives and unchecked release of anger, I think that they have clearly demonstrated that their direction of travel is 180° from that which is required by a courageous and responsible government at a time when, worldwide, brave and honest leadership is the only thing that might mitigate disaster for the human race and the planet Earth.

They have badly let down you and me and every other person they represent, whether we know it or not, whether we are prepared to face reality or not.


Regretted voting for them within about 2 weeks. Just more tory policies and fixation on "growth" at any cost.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:39 - Jan 30 with 7060 viewsGeoffSentence

I knew they were focussed on cities and at best had a disregard for the countryside. Their complete disregard for the living environment has, however, come as a surprise.

The worst thing is that they are more competent than the last lot and might be able to carry their destructive plans through.

In some respects they are not Tory-lite, they are Tory-plus.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:41 - Jan 30 with 7020 viewsbazza

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:34 - Jan 30 by Basuco

Almost like they are running the Country properly, not running it into the ground like the previous Government did. At least they are not giving large chunks of public money to friends, family and party donors.


You keep Telling yourself that.. I’m sure no silver will cross palms when all the planning laws get relaxed and the countryside and wildlife is sacrificed for blocks of flats and town houses.
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 10:33 - Jan 30 with 6839 viewsArmaghBlue

We did try to warn you about Labour
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:02 - Jan 30 with 6702 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

It's going to take time to fix the mess the last lot left this country in.
Labour have only been in a few months and people are frothing that everything hasn't been fixed already.
Patience is a virtue.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:03 - Jan 30 with 6689 viewsPinewoodblue

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:37 - Jan 30 by blueasfook

Regretted voting for them within about 2 weeks. Just more tory policies and fixation on "growth" at any cost.


Don’t blame yourself you didn’t have much choice.

Fingers crossed that by next election everyone has forgotten “vote for change” otherwise we could end up with Reform having a say in a coalition government.

Reeves sat next to Starmer at PMG’s yesterday expressionless as if she didn’t want to be there. Either, or both of them, are not going to last the distance.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:11 - Jan 30 with 6609 viewsSaffronWaldenBlues

Changing Tory for Labour these days is like swapping ketchup for Tomato Sauce. Only the over 40's believe in a difference any longer, they are all funded and backed by lobbyists who set their agenda.

Your vote has never meant so little, and it's worth less every day. Keir and Kemi play characters for the TV/Newspapers that back them to keep people voting, they are otherwise the same. People get hostile when that gets pointed out, as many people back Tory/Labour religiously, even when their Party changes and does the opposite of what they voted for, they can't seem to get it, it's like kids who refuse to accept Father Christmas isn't real.

What do people expect from a leadership that has actively exiled the left-wing MPs out of their Party. Labour is a right-wing neo-liberal political party. That is what people voted for, to replace the previous right-wing neo-liberal Government.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:11 - Jan 30 with 6614 viewsblueasfook

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:02 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

It's going to take time to fix the mess the last lot left this country in.
Labour have only been in a few months and people are frothing that everything hasn't been fixed already.
Patience is a virtue.


Just like it took the last lot time to fix the mess the lot before them left.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:13 - Jan 30 with 6583 viewsNthQldITFC

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:02 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

It's going to take time to fix the mess the last lot left this country in.
Labour have only been in a few months and people are frothing that everything hasn't been fixed already.
Patience is a virtue.


I hear you on that, but the signal of direction of travel that they have given is terminal for their chances of moving this country in the only sane direction. They've bottled it, and they can't reverse now.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:44 - Jan 30 with 6410 viewsBlueBadger

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:11 - Jan 30 by blueasfook

Just like it took the last lot time to fix the mess the lot before them left.


In all fairness, the last lot decided not to bother fixing the mess, they decided to leave it as it was and take a massive dump on the top of it.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:48 - Jan 30 with 6382 viewsblueasfook

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:44 - Jan 30 by BlueBadger

In all fairness, the last lot decided not to bother fixing the mess, they decided to leave it as it was and take a massive dump on the top of it.


Well at least you acknowledge Blair/Brown's govt left a mess. There's a a start.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:50 - Jan 30 with 6361 viewsBlibbiBlob1976

Not a fan then!? Me neither… but rather because they are far left ideologues dragging the whole country down with them… And at the moment they are far left ideologues who realise their ideas are terrible. Taxing education and and increasing employers’ tax burden was never going to be sound policy. The issue the country has is that they are dour and joyless left wing pessimists with no principles, and no idea. Sooner we get a sensible centre right government in place, the better. The fear now, of course, is that this lot have soured the country’s mood so much that we are heading for a far right win at next election. Voting Labour is rarely a good idea
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:00 - Jan 30 with 6281 viewsPinewoodblue

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:50 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976

Not a fan then!? Me neither… but rather because they are far left ideologues dragging the whole country down with them… And at the moment they are far left ideologues who realise their ideas are terrible. Taxing education and and increasing employers’ tax burden was never going to be sound policy. The issue the country has is that they are dour and joyless left wing pessimists with no principles, and no idea. Sooner we get a sensible centre right government in place, the better. The fear now, of course, is that this lot have soured the country’s mood so much that we are heading for a far right win at next election. Voting Labour is rarely a good idea
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:00 - Jan 30 with 6262 viewspositivity

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:50 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976

Not a fan then!? Me neither… but rather because they are far left ideologues dragging the whole country down with them… And at the moment they are far left ideologues who realise their ideas are terrible. Taxing education and and increasing employers’ tax burden was never going to be sound policy. The issue the country has is that they are dour and joyless left wing pessimists with no principles, and no idea. Sooner we get a sensible centre right government in place, the better. The fear now, of course, is that this lot have soured the country’s mood so much that we are heading for a far right win at next election. Voting Labour is rarely a good idea
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here we go again. the problem with labour is they are "far left ideologues" because they have the temerity to not give tax breaks to private schools!

blobby never fails to amuse!

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:02 - Jan 30 with 6262 viewsiamatractorboy

So far on this thread they've been called left wing and right wing, anyone want to call them fence-sitting centrists so we can get the full house?
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:04 - Jan 30 with 6234 viewsDJR

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:50 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976

Not a fan then!? Me neither… but rather because they are far left ideologues dragging the whole country down with them… And at the moment they are far left ideologues who realise their ideas are terrible. Taxing education and and increasing employers’ tax burden was never going to be sound policy. The issue the country has is that they are dour and joyless left wing pessimists with no principles, and no idea. Sooner we get a sensible centre right government in place, the better. The fear now, of course, is that this lot have soured the country’s mood so much that we are heading for a far right win at next election. Voting Labour is rarely a good idea
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I did post that the centre-right think tanks were happy with what Reeves announced yesterday, even the Institute for Economic Affairs, hardly far left ideologues.
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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:05 - Jan 30 with 6210 viewspositivity

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:33 - Jan 30 by NthQldITFC

Without the expletives and unchecked release of anger, I think that they have clearly demonstrated that their direction of travel is 180° from that which is required by a courageous and responsible government at a time when, worldwide, brave and honest leadership is the only thing that might mitigate disaster for the human race and the planet Earth.

They have badly let down you and me and every other person they represent, whether we know it or not, whether we are prepared to face reality or not.


some geometrical pedantry; it's not 180 degrees, otherwise what figure would you put on trump/truss/tories? or if they decided to reverse the block on further drilling etc?

but agree that they could be doing a lot more!

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:06 - Jan 30 with 6180 viewspositivity

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:02 - Jan 30 by iamatractorboy

So far on this thread they've been called left wing and right wing, anyone want to call them fence-sitting centrists so we can get the full house?


they're environmental vandals who are far too tree-huggy!

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:13 - Jan 30 with 6145 viewsNthQldITFC

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:50 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976

Not a fan then!? Me neither… but rather because they are far left ideologues dragging the whole country down with them… And at the moment they are far left ideologues who realise their ideas are terrible. Taxing education and and increasing employers’ tax burden was never going to be sound policy. The issue the country has is that they are dour and joyless left wing pessimists with no principles, and no idea. Sooner we get a sensible centre right government in place, the better. The fear now, of course, is that this lot have soured the country’s mood so much that we are heading for a far right win at next election. Voting Labour is rarely a good idea
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I remain hopeful that you might one day, on some level, be capable of registering in your so-called brain, the information provided by this chart, which illustrates the horrific underlying problem that selfish, predatory capitalism driven by irresponsible consumerism is totally ignoring.



'Far left' are you serious?

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:15 - Jan 30 with 6092 viewsGeoffSentence

I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 11:50 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976

Not a fan then!? Me neither… but rather because they are far left ideologues dragging the whole country down with them… And at the moment they are far left ideologues who realise their ideas are terrible. Taxing education and and increasing employers’ tax burden was never going to be sound policy. The issue the country has is that they are dour and joyless left wing pessimists with no principles, and no idea. Sooner we get a sensible centre right government in place, the better. The fear now, of course, is that this lot have soured the country’s mood so much that we are heading for a far right win at next election. Voting Labour is rarely a good idea
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"far left"

Chuckle.

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I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 12:17 - Jan 30 with 6075 viewsitfcjoe

'Our childrens future' - living with their parents until they are 40 because this country won't build them houses
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