| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. 09:04 - Jan 30 with 19243 views | NthQldITFC |
Irresponsible, cowardly, Tory-lite failures.
Gutless apologists for the obscene, unequal, rabid capitalism-driven destruction of nature and of our children's futures.
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:45 - Jan 30 with 1010 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:39 - Jan 30 by Clapham_Junction |
Posts like this are just trolling. There is no rational way in which the current Labour leadership could be described far-left (and where does that leave people like John McDonnell or Clive Lewis?). The only alternative to this being trolling is that you are utterly clueless about politics. [Post edited 30 Jan 17:40]
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It’s further left than any U.K. government since 1979. So in that basis, using the comparison of the previous 45 years of U.K. governments, I’d say it’s far left. McDonnell, Corbyn etc was never real politics and never had any chance of being successful. They never left the student union |  | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:47 - Jan 30 with 994 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:43 - Jan 30 by positivity |
so, not a single word decrying the end of tax breaks for private schools? thought not! |
Mainly football, how useless this government is moaning about Building Control and onerous regs tbh. | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:47 - Jan 30 with 993 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 15:09 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue |
You may have missed that just a couple of weeks ago Keir Starmer's anti corruption minister quit after being named in embezzlement investigation. That follows on from the Lord Ali donations for access.
Like you say, they've only been in a few months.
edit. Just seen Blueas post. [Post edited 30 Jan 15:39]
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You may have missed where I said "there isn't the corruption we saw under the last government" - i.e. to anywhere near the same level. Labour aren't perfect, but the Tories were on another planet when it comes to corruption. With our money.
I'm still enjoying you not being a Tory anymore though. No siree, no way. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:48 - Jan 30 with 976 views | lowhouseblue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:45 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
It’s further left than any U.K. government since 1979. So in that basis, using the comparison of the previous 45 years of U.K. governments, I’d say it’s far left. McDonnell, Corbyn etc was never real politics and never had any chance of being successful. They never left the student union |
wow. as a firm starmerite that must make me far left. i'm going to have to disown myself. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:50 - Jan 30 with 954 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:45 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
It’s further left than any U.K. government since 1979. So in that basis, using the comparison of the previous 45 years of U.K. governments, I’d say it’s far left. McDonnell, Corbyn etc was never real politics and never had any chance of being successful. They never left the student union |
being further left than a series of very right-wing governments (it's arguable that starmer is left of blair, who was at best centre-left) doesn't make you far left.
one of your more ridiculous statements (though i'm sure you have a ready supply to compete with it!) | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:51 - Jan 30 with 936 views | Dubtractor |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:48 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
wow. as a firm starmerite that must make me far left. i'm going to have to disown myself. |
Is this you?
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:51 - Jan 30 with 935 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:47 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Mainly football, how useless this government is moaning about Building Control and onerous regs tbh. |
thought so; it's your issue, no-one else's! | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:51 - Jan 30 with 936 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:48 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
wow. as a firm starmerite that must make me far left. i'm going to have to disown myself. |
That’s up to you, of course | | | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:52 - Jan 30 with 920 views | Fenland_Blue |
One term government, then it's onto the next load of useless self serving cretins. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:52 - Jan 30 with 911 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:51 - Jan 30 by positivity |
thought so; it's your issue, no-one else's! |
It’s a big issue for a lot of people, whether you realise it or not. Leaving your opinions in private schooling aside, and focussing on the children involved, don’t think it is a kind policy to change the taxation on schools mid academic year, whilst children are at school? If their parents cannot afford it then these childe will be separated from their friends. It’s the manner of the introduction that demonstrates the vindictiveness of the policy. Perhaps you don’t see these children as individuals, but they are. And the policy will cause lots of upset for individual children. I think it’s pretty reprehensible. The icing on the cake is that any additional revenue won’t be spent on schools l, and the majority of revenue raised will be spent on educating these children in the state sector. Perhaps if you knew children affected, your opinion may be different. [Post edited 30 Jan 17:58]
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:53 - Jan 30 with 898 views | lowhouseblue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:51 - Jan 30 by Dubtractor |
Is this you?
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power to the fiscally conservative!! | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:54 - Jan 30 with 883 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:24 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue |
A complete swerve. His new username should be Dolly_Swerveiage. |
I'm so sorry I have other things to do rather than be at yours and Blueas' beck and call | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:55 - Jan 30 with 867 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:52 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
It’s a big issue for a lot of people, whether you realise it or not. Leaving your opinions in private schooling aside, and focussing on the children involved, don’t think it is a kind policy to change the taxation on schools mid academic year, whilst children are at school? If their parents cannot afford it then these childe will be separated from their friends. It’s the manner of the introduction that demonstrates the vindictiveness of the policy. Perhaps you don’t see these children as individuals, but they are. And the policy will cause lots of upset for individual children. I think it’s pretty reprehensible. The icing on the cake is that any additional revenue won’t be spent on schools l, and the majority of revenue raised will be spent on educating these children in the state sector. Perhaps if you knew children affected, your opinion may be different. [Post edited 30 Jan 17:58]
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nope, just you and rees-mogg's nanny.
happy to take the tax receipts and accept your whining in return, it's a bargain! | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:00 - Jan 30 with 814 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:55 - Jan 30 by positivity |
nope, just you and rees-mogg's nanny.
happy to take the tax receipts and accept your whining in return, it's a bargain! |
You really do seem a very unpleasant person | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:07 - Jan 30 with 760 views | Ryorry |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 16:44 - Jan 30 by DJR |
This is the summary from Wikpedia.
"The first phase of the global crisis began in early 2007, as mortgage-backed securities (MBS) tied to U.S. real estate, and a vast web of derivatives linked to those MBS, collapsed in value. A liquidity crisis spread to global institutions by mid-2007 and climaxed with the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September 2008, which triggered a stock market crash and international banking crisis."
As it was, I was seconded to HMRC at the time and working on the Tax Law Rewrite of the derivatives tax legislation, so was particularly interested in what was going on, and don't think people really know how close derivatives came to bringing the entire financial system down because the amounts involved were vast.
Here's more from Wikipedia.
"In an article in Portfolio magazine, Michael Lewis spoke with one trader who noted that "There weren't enough Americans with [bad] credit taking out [bad loans] to satisfy investors' appetite for the end product." Essentially, investment banks and hedge funds used financial innovation to enable large wagers to be made, far beyond the actual value of the underlying mortgage loans, using derivatives called credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations and synthetic CDOs."
And if you ask what a synthetic CDO is, I am not sure you will want to know the answer.
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Collateralized Debt Overdoses? 🤔
Seems to me that all that kind of background fiscal shennanigans, pushing theoretical money around on the internet, is what happens when society spirals up on artificialities, & loses sight of the simple things that really matter - people, shelter, food, water the environment. Very 'last days of the Roman Empire'. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:09 - Jan 30 with 750 views | Ryorry |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:54 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm so sorry I have other things to do rather than be at yours and Blueas' beck and call |
Hmm, you've never accepted that explanation from me. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:12 - Jan 30 with 712 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:00 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
You really do seem a very unpleasant person |
same old blobby, can't argue with the points, resorts to insults.
if fairness and turning inherited wealth into positives for more deprived children makes me unpleasant, well that's for others to judge! | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:12 - Jan 30 with 711 views | backwaywhen |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 09:33 - Jan 30 by NthQldITFC |
Without the expletives and unchecked release of anger, I think that they have clearly demonstrated that their direction of travel is 180° from that which is required by a courageous and responsible government at a time when, worldwide, brave and honest leadership is the only thing that might mitigate disaster for the human race and the planet Earth.
They have badly let down you and me and every other person they represent, whether we know it or not, whether we are prepared to face reality or not. |
Always on the cards and going to happen , after all only 20% of the population voted for them .
Labour = Disaster Nothing changes. | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:24 - Jan 30 with 631 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:09 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
Hmm, you've never accepted that explanation from me. |
I very rarely disappear from a debate though.
In fact people usually have a pop at me for banging on too long in them.
Once again Little Miss Sweet And Innocent is here and not getting involved. Well done. Are you hoping for a pile on and getting in nice and early? | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:25 - Jan 30 with 626 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:12 - Jan 30 by positivity |
same old blobby, can't argue with the points, resorts to insults.
if fairness and turning inherited wealth into positives for more deprived children makes me unpleasant, well that's for others to judge! |
I’ve argued the points with you and I’ve said that the taxes will raise little to no revenue. That means there are only ideological and vindictive reasons for the introduction of tax in education - the only country in Europe to do so. I have no idea what your issue is tbh. Thanks goodness, I’ve never met anyone like you, so full of vitriol against children. “Positivity”, eh! 😂 | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:26 - Jan 30 with 612 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:25 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
I’ve argued the points with you and I’ve said that the taxes will raise little to no revenue. That means there are only ideological and vindictive reasons for the introduction of tax in education - the only country in Europe to do so. I have no idea what your issue is tbh. Thanks goodness, I’ve never met anyone like you, so full of vitriol against children. “Positivity”, eh! 😂 |
"vitriol against children", wowsers, are you the Frimmers of politics? That's some hot take there. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:29 - Jan 30 with 601 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:25 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
I’ve argued the points with you and I’ve said that the taxes will raise little to no revenue. That means there are only ideological and vindictive reasons for the introduction of tax in education - the only country in Europe to do so. I have no idea what your issue is tbh. Thanks goodness, I’ve never met anyone like you, so full of vitriol against children. “Positivity”, eh! 😂 |
1.5bn a year is the estimate, i'd take a fraction of that for the common good.
don't know how you can say that taking money from rich businesses to fund education for millions of children is vitriolic *against* children, that's extremely odd logic!
no wonder you're in a minority of one on this issue here... | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:30 - Jan 30 with 595 views | Ryorry |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:24 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I very rarely disappear from a debate though.
In fact people usually have a pop at me for banging on too long in them.
Once again Little Miss Sweet And Innocent is here and not getting involved. Well done. Are you hoping for a pile on and getting in nice and early? |
For heavens sake - I made a fair, valid point about your explanation (which I do accept, as you were away for barely an hour before you got the jibes from GB & Blueas) never having been accepted by you when it was me making it - only for you to turn it into a completely unjustifiable personal attack using downright lies. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:34 - Jan 30 with 562 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:45 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
It’s further left than any U.K. government since 1979. So in that basis, using the comparison of the previous 45 years of U.K. governments, I’d say it’s far left. McDonnell, Corbyn etc was never real politics and never had any chance of being successful. They never left the student union |
This is getting silly now |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:36 - Jan 30 with 533 views | Ryorry |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:34 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue |
This is getting silly now |
"now"?! | |
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