| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. 09:04 - Jan 30 with 19838 views | NthQldITFC |
Irresponsible, cowardly, Tory-lite failures.
Gutless apologists for the obscene, unequal, rabid capitalism-driven destruction of nature and of our children's futures.
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:38 - Jan 30 with 1154 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:29 - Jan 30 by positivity |
1.5bn a year is the estimate, i'd take a fraction of that for the common good.
don't know how you can say that taking money from rich businesses to fund education for millions of children is vitriolic *against* children, that's extremely odd logic!
no wonder you're in a minority of one on this issue here... |
Which business groups are you referring to? This is getting a little surreal. Subsequent reports put the gain at much, much less than that. Some Ben at a loss. That you would think it better to inflict pain on children for a few pence reflects very poorly on you as a human being. |  | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:38 - Jan 30 with 1156 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:12 - Jan 30 by backwaywhen |
Always on the cards and going to happen , after all only 20% of the population voted for them .
Labour = Disaster Nothing changes. |
The only issue with that statement is that this government is nothing like a stereotypical Labour one. They’re probably closest to the Truss Ministry in terms of their economic (and now environmental) policies. Or at least their headlines are - deregulation, growth at any cost, and ignore impacts on equality and the environment. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:44 - Jan 30 with 1122 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:38 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Which business groups are you referring to? This is getting a little surreal. Subsequent reports put the gain at much, much less than that. Some Ben at a loss. That you would think it better to inflict pain on children for a few pence reflects very poorly on you as a human being. |
the businesses that run the private schools, 1.5bn a year is the figure i've seen, no doubt gb news tells you different, but check your source.
there is zero pain to a child if a private school pays tax on the profit it makes on that child. there is positive gain for all children if the money raised is out into their education.
do children not count for you if their parents don't have enough money for private school? it's the only thing that i can see to explain your weird and unique stance and your weird and vitriolic insults | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:45 - Jan 30 with 1109 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:52 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
It’s a big issue for a lot of people, whether you realise it or not. Leaving your opinions in private schooling aside, and focussing on the children involved, don’t think it is a kind policy to change the taxation on schools mid academic year, whilst children are at school? If their parents cannot afford it then these childe will be separated from their friends. It’s the manner of the introduction that demonstrates the vindictiveness of the policy. Perhaps you don’t see these children as individuals, but they are. And the policy will cause lots of upset for individual children. I think it’s pretty reprehensible. The icing on the cake is that any additional revenue won’t be spent on schools l, and the majority of revenue raised will be spent on educating these children in the state sector. Perhaps if you knew children affected, your opinion may be different. [Post edited 30 Jan 17:58]
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Aaaah poor Tarquin and Esmerelda
What a load of nonsense making victims of people seeking an education not available to the masses |  | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:48 - Jan 30 with 1082 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:44 - Jan 30 by positivity |
the businesses that run the private schools, 1.5bn a year is the figure i've seen, no doubt gb news tells you different, but check your source.
there is zero pain to a child if a private school pays tax on the profit it makes on that child. there is positive gain for all children if the money raised is out into their education.
do children not count for you if their parents don't have enough money for private school? it's the only thing that i can see to explain your weird and unique stance and your weird and vitriolic insults |
Most private schools are not owned by businesses, unlike most universities, which are. | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:52 - Jan 30 with 1057 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:38 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue |
The only issue with that statement is that this government is nothing like a stereotypical Labour one. They’re probably closest to the Truss Ministry in terms of their economic (and now environmental) policies. Or at least their headlines are - deregulation, growth at any cost, and ignore impacts on equality and the environment. |
They are very far from Truss, who has the right idea but very poor execution and comms and is batpooh crazy. These guys are big state left wing ideologues, who have suddenly realise that their ideas and policies don’t work in the real world. Especially a real world that is tipping evermore to the right | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:52 - Jan 30 with 1052 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:48 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Most private schools are not owned by businesses, unlike most universities, which are. |
Not true | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:52 - Jan 30 with 1045 views | lowhouseblue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:48 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Most private schools are not owned by businesses, unlike most universities, which are. |
what?? most universities are owned by businesses?? no they're not. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:53 - Jan 30 with 1048 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:48 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Most private schools are not owned by businesses, unlike most universities, which are. |
some are, some aren't. children certainly don't own private schools though, so they won't miss the percentage of their profits.
all children will feel the positive benefits of the extra money in their education though, that's why the vast majority are seeing your weird obsession on this as so bizarre.
take a step outside and look at yourself dispassionately and you'll work it out | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:53 - Jan 30 with 1040 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:44 - Jan 30 by positivity |
the businesses that run the private schools, 1.5bn a year is the figure i've seen, no doubt gb news tells you different, but check your source.
there is zero pain to a child if a private school pays tax on the profit it makes on that child. there is positive gain for all children if the money raised is out into their education.
do children not count for you if their parents don't have enough money for private school? it's the only thing that i can see to explain your weird and unique stance and your weird and vitriolic insults |
That you think my viewpoints and opinions are aligned with GB News tells me a lot about your failure to understand simple issues, and to see and listen to opinions that differ from your own. Perhaps you are just “stuck in your ways”? | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:55 - Jan 30 with 1024 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:52 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
They are very far from Truss, who has the right idea but very poor execution and comms and is batpooh crazy. These guys are big state left wing ideologues, who have suddenly realise that their ideas and policies don’t work in the real world. Especially a real world that is tipping evermore to the right |
"truss has the right idea"
hot takes going cheap today! | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:56 - Jan 30 with 1015 views | positivity |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:53 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
That you think my viewpoints and opinions are aligned with GB News tells me a lot about your failure to understand simple issues, and to see and listen to opinions that differ from your own. Perhaps you are just “stuck in your ways”? |
along with everyone else and all the available facts? only you can be trusted on this then? bizarre! | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:59 - Jan 30 with 996 views | Ryorry |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:38 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue |
The only issue with that statement is that this government is nothing like a stereotypical Labour one. They’re probably closest to the Truss Ministry in terms of their economic (and now environmental) policies. Or at least their headlines are - deregulation, growth at any cost, and ignore impacts on equality and the environment. |
I've lived through a few - this is nothing like any previous one.
When it gets to the stage where the Tory MP for your constituency cares more about things like the environment, food production, availability & sustainability; & welfare of pensioners than Labour seems to ... :( |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:04 - Jan 30 with 967 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:55 - Jan 30 by positivity |
"truss has the right idea"
hot takes going cheap today! |
Surely at this point it’s unarguable that lower state spending, more productivity and lower taxes is the only way to improve the country? Isn’t it? Is this working currently!? I’m at a loss to understand what you are trying to say. She was useless, but the fundamentals were correct. | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:07 - Jan 30 with 959 views | NthQldITFC |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:48 - Jan 30 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Most private schools are not owned by businesses, unlike most universities, which are. |
Barking. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:08 - Jan 30 with 949 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:56 - Jan 30 by positivity |
along with everyone else and all the available facts? only you can be trusted on this then? bizarre! |
“Everyone else”? Are these your imaginary friends? | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:25 - Jan 30 with 908 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:59 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
I've lived through a few - this is nothing like any previous one.
When it gets to the stage where the Tory MP for your constituency cares more about things like the environment, food production, availability & sustainability; & welfare of pensioners than Labour seems to ... :( |
One of the biggest weaknesses of the last Tory gov was their genuflection to the old, rural NIMBY traditional Tory voter and their obsession with newts and regulation. If Reeves’ dislike of this demographic can get us building again then perhaps she may do the country a favour, after all! Can’t help but feel it will again be fuelled by spitefulness gains this demographic, but even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. | | | |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:28 - Jan 30 with 895 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:30 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
For heavens sake - I made a fair, valid point about your explanation (which I do accept, as you were away for barely an hour before you got the jibes from GB & Blueas) never having been accepted by you when it was me making it - only for you to turn it into a completely unjustifiable personal attack using downright lies. |
No, it wasn't a fair or valid point, and I've explained why.
The attack here is by you, clearly. You've come out of leftfield to have a pop at me, utterly unprovoked. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:39 - Jan 30 with 840 views | Ryorry |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:28 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, it wasn't a fair or valid point, and I've explained why.
The attack here is by you, clearly. You've come out of leftfield to have a pop at me, utterly unprovoked. |
It was a fair & valid point because 100% factual & accurate, including context.
It was actually posted in a very light-hearted way (*edit - looking back on it I should probably have posted it with an emoticon to make that clear), which 99.99% of people would have just joshed about, or taken with a wry smile. Instead, you've chosen to turn it into a row, incorporating conjuring up unpleasant fictitious motives that are purely out of your own head - just nasty defamation by you. Looks like you judge others by yourself. [Post edited 30 Jan 19:50]
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:52 - Jan 30 with 791 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 18:59 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
I've lived through a few - this is nothing like any previous one.
When it gets to the stage where the Tory MP for your constituency cares more about things like the environment, food production, availability & sustainability; & welfare of pensioners than Labour seems to ... :( |
If only Jezza and all those lefties hadn't been raging antisemites! |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:57 - Jan 30 with 775 views | lowhouseblue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:52 - Jan 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
If only Jezza and all those lefties hadn't been raging antisemites! |
finally a political awakening. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 20:08 - Jan 30 with 746 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:39 - Jan 30 by Ryorry |
It was a fair & valid point because 100% factual & accurate, including context.
It was actually posted in a very light-hearted way (*edit - looking back on it I should probably have posted it with an emoticon to make that clear), which 99.99% of people would have just joshed about, or taken with a wry smile. Instead, you've chosen to turn it into a row, incorporating conjuring up unpleasant fictitious motives that are purely out of your own head - just nasty defamation by you. Looks like you judge others by yourself. [Post edited 30 Jan 19:50]
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I'd love to know what "unpleasant fictitious motives" and "nasty defamation" I've posted. Do enlighten. Maybe you should report me to Phil if I've defamed you, I'm sure he wouldn't want a law suit on here.
Given our crossed swords on this subject previously, you're having a laugh trying to claim your dig was "very light-hearted" and I should've taken it as such.
Here you are posting more nasty barbs but apparently it's me causing a row. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 20:14 - Jan 30 with 713 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 19:57 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue |
finally a political awakening. |
Whatever helps you sleep at nights....you got your party back. | |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 20:25 - Jan 30 with 689 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 17:47 - Jan 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You may have missed where I said "there isn't the corruption we saw under the last government" - i.e. to anywhere near the same level. Labour aren't perfect, but the Tories were on another planet when it comes to corruption. With our money.
I'm still enjoying you not being a Tory anymore though. No siree, no way. |
Oh dolly dolly dolly. I voted Labour at the last election. Not because I've had a Damascus-like conversion to centre left politics. But because the last Tory government was corrupt and incompetent. I voted for Starmer's Labour party because he is both decent and competent.
But here's the thing that may confuse you. Sometimes I'm going to criticise Starmer and his Government when I believe the criticism is justified. And sometimes I'm going to back Starmer and his Government when I believe that backing is justified.
If you are looking for slavish support100% of the time then I suggest you forget debating politics on TWTD and join a cult. |  |
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| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 20:34 - Jan 30 with 651 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| I was prepared to give Starmer and Reeves a chance. Not any longer. on 20:25 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue |
Oh dolly dolly dolly. I voted Labour at the last election. Not because I've had a Damascus-like conversion to centre left politics. But because the last Tory government was corrupt and incompetent. I voted for Starmer's Labour party because he is both decent and competent.
But here's the thing that may confuse you. Sometimes I'm going to criticise Starmer and his Government when I believe the criticism is justified. And sometimes I'm going to back Starmer and his Government when I believe that backing is justified.
If you are looking for slavish support100% of the time then I suggest you forget debating politics on TWTD and join a cult. |
I suggest everybody stop discussing politics on this form as it’s the most left wing body of opinion I’ve ever been exposed to! Are we sure this isn’t the student wing of the fan club? [Post edited 30 Jan 20:36]
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