| No more rainbow armbands on 11:16 - Aug 8 with 2677 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Shame. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 11:17 - Aug 8 with 2684 views | itfcjoe |
It's a shame that the campaign is ending, but can see why big organisations wouldn't want anything to do with Stonewall currently.
Hopefully it can come again in some form |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 11:22 - Aug 8 with 2602 views | J2BLUE |
Good to see the connection with Stonewall being dropped.
They should still wear unaffiliated rainbow armbands if they wish though. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 11:39 - Aug 8 with 2458 views | Chris_ITFC |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:17 - Aug 8 by itfcjoe |
It's a shame that the campaign is ending, but can see why big organisations wouldn't want anything to do with Stonewall currently.
Hopefully it can come again in some form |
Yeah, the article suggests so - not until February though. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 11:45 - Aug 8 with 2398 views | Rimsy |
Should never have been an issue in the first, putting players like Morsy with their beliefs in an impossible situation. Black armband with 'captain' should be standard. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 11:57 - Aug 8 with 2335 views | urbanpenguin |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:45 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
Should never have been an issue in the first, putting players like Morsy with their beliefs in an impossible situation. Black armband with 'captain' should be standard. |
Human rights are not a belief. |  | | |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:59 - Aug 8 with 2313 views | BuffaloBill |
The world is finally healing, what an evil organisation they are |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 12:15 - Aug 8 with 2183 views | bsw72 |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:57 - Aug 8 by urbanpenguin |
Human rights are not a belief. |
Does not actively supporting something (in this case choosing not to wear a rainbow armband) that goes against someone’s personal beliefs impinge on human rights any more than making them wear it.
Sexuality is not a choice, and someone should be free to live how they see fit. People should not be discriminated against for their sexuality and the countries that actively persecute the individuals for it are archaic and horrendous.
However if someone does not approve personally for religious or any other reason, why should they be made to actively act in favour of it, that’s not right either. |  | | |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 12:22 - Aug 8 with 2119 views | BuffaloBill |
| No more rainbow armbands on 12:15 - Aug 8 by bsw72 |
Does not actively supporting something (in this case choosing not to wear a rainbow armband) that goes against someone’s personal beliefs impinge on human rights any more than making them wear it.
Sexuality is not a choice, and someone should be free to live how they see fit. People should not be discriminated against for their sexuality and the countries that actively persecute the individuals for it are archaic and horrendous.
However if someone does not approve personally for religious or any other reason, why should they be made to actively act in favour of it, that’s not right either. |
Like Egypt or Palestine as examples | |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 12:30 - Aug 8 with 2056 views | bartyg |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:59 - Aug 8 by BuffaloBill |
The world is finally healing, what an evil organisation they are |
I'll bite- what are you talking about |  | | |
| No more rainbow armbands on 12:32 - Aug 8 with 2031 views | bsw72 |
| No more rainbow armbands on 12:22 - Aug 8 by BuffaloBill |
Like Egypt or Palestine as examples |
Not sure, my point was more about passive individual choice rather than state mandated legislation. | | | |
| No more rainbow armbands on 12:40 - Aug 8 with 1930 views | BlueBadger |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:45 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
Should never have been an issue in the first, putting players like Morsy with their beliefs in an impossible situation. Black armband with 'captain' should be standard. |
It's just colours, snowflake. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 12:53 - Aug 8 with 1846 views | tractorboy7777 |
I’ve not personally seen what has caused Stonewall to be disliked so much, however by removing this campaign in the Premier League alongside stonewall to include different sexualities, the Premier League do need to be careful that they do have a campaign in February that they say they will do.
There have been no openly gay premier league players still, which doesn’t help those growing up to feel included in football. Like I said, I don’t know if Stonewall is the problem, but it comes across as they are removing the campaign because a couple of Captains won’t contribute to the campaign because of their beliefs or agree with being gay. That to me, makes it worse for the young gay footballers who are hiding who they are and don’t feel included.
In my opinion, if they remove one type of inclusive campaign, they should remove all. Football is very diverse now. Religion should not be part of this either, religion is a choice, being gay, black, female isn’t. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 13:40 - Aug 8 with 1680 views | Rimsy |
| No more rainbow armbands on 12:40 - Aug 8 by BlueBadger |
It's just colours, snowflake. |
No it's not. It would just be colours if such a big thing wasn't made about it. Trying to shame someone in supporting a cause that they don't agree with is wrong. My point was it has no place in football. It's always been a black armband till someone decided to foist the rainbow on people. | |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 13:48 - Aug 8 with 1633 views | Mullet |
| No more rainbow armbands on 13:40 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
No it's not. It would just be colours if such a big thing wasn't made about it. Trying to shame someone in supporting a cause that they don't agree with is wrong. My point was it has no place in football. It's always been a black armband till someone decided to foist the rainbow on people. |
That's completely untrue https://www.footyheadlines.com/2019/05/20-most-iconic-captain-armbands-in-footba |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 13:54 - Aug 8 with 1590 views | Libero |
| No more rainbow armbands on 13:40 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
No it's not. It would just be colours if such a big thing wasn't made about it. Trying to shame someone in supporting a cause that they don't agree with is wrong. My point was it has no place in football. It's always been a black armband till someone decided to foist the rainbow on people. |
‘supporting a cause’ - what do you perceive the ‘cause’ to be? |  | | |
| No more rainbow armbands on 14:36 - Aug 8 with 1360 views | Kropotkin123 |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:17 - Aug 8 by itfcjoe |
It's a shame that the campaign is ending, but can see why big organisations wouldn't want anything to do with Stonewall currently.
Hopefully it can come again in some form |
Maybe we could have rainbow-coloured penalty spots. The Stonewall Penalty campaign? |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 14:59 - Aug 8 with 1208 views | lowhouseblue |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:17 - Aug 8 by itfcjoe |
It's a shame that the campaign is ending, but can see why big organisations wouldn't want anything to do with Stonewall currently.
Hopefully it can come again in some form |
the premier league needs to develop its own strategy to replace it. it's very sad that stonewall has gone so badly wrong but many organisations are now rightly distancing themselves from them. |  |
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| No more rainbow armbands on 15:01 - Aug 8 with 1192 views | Swailsey |
| No more rainbow armbands on 13:40 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
No it's not. It would just be colours if such a big thing wasn't made about it. Trying to shame someone in supporting a cause that they don't agree with is wrong. My point was it has no place in football. It's always been a black armband till someone decided to foist the rainbow on people. |
Sexuality shouldn’t be something that people should ‘believe in’. It’s sad that we have to actively support it because so many people are against it.
It’s 2025. Beliefs are no excuse for discrimination. [Post edited 8 Aug 15:03]
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| No more rainbow armbands on 15:01 - Aug 8 with 1189 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:45 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
Should never have been an issue in the first, putting players like Morsy with their beliefs in an impossible situation. Black armband with 'captain' should be standard. |
Religion is a choice. | | | |
| No more rainbow armbands on 15:18 - Aug 8 with 1052 views | DJR |
The gap to February doesn't send out a very good message.
Sadly, and especially with Trump at the helm, inclusion is rather on the backfoot in all sorts of settings. [Post edited 8 Aug 15:19]
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| No more rainbow armbands on 15:19 - Aug 8 with 1045 views | BonchosBicycle |
| No more rainbow armbands on 11:45 - Aug 8 by Rimsy |
Should never have been an issue in the first, putting players like Morsy with their beliefs in an impossible situation. Black armband with 'captain' should be standard. |
I thought gambling was also forbidden by Islam. Couldn't wear a rainbow armband for one day but could pump Unibet for a season. Sam Morsy was a great captain but that incident really disappointed me.
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| No more rainbow armbands on 15:32 - Aug 8 with 909 views | Swailsey |
| No more rainbow armbands on 15:24 - Aug 8 by Libero |
Aye, that’s how I felt about it too.
I respect his right to his own personal beliefs, but as captain of Ipswich Town he is representing people of different gender, sexuality, race, religion, etc.
Clearly as you’ve evidenced with the photo, there is flexibility in his personal interpretation of Islam, it’s just his personal choice that it apparently doesn’t extend to gay people… [Post edited 8 Aug 15:25]
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Yep. Exactly how I feel too.
I lost my respect for him about this and that’s why he will never been a club legend for me.
Hell of a player, but doesn’t represent the inclusiveness I would expect of my club. [Post edited 8 Aug 15:40]
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| No more rainbow armbands on 17:23 - Aug 8 with 665 views | djgooder |
| No more rainbow armbands on 12:53 - Aug 8 by tractorboy7777 |
I’ve not personally seen what has caused Stonewall to be disliked so much, however by removing this campaign in the Premier League alongside stonewall to include different sexualities, the Premier League do need to be careful that they do have a campaign in February that they say they will do.
There have been no openly gay premier league players still, which doesn’t help those growing up to feel included in football. Like I said, I don’t know if Stonewall is the problem, but it comes across as they are removing the campaign because a couple of Captains won’t contribute to the campaign because of their beliefs or agree with being gay. That to me, makes it worse for the young gay footballers who are hiding who they are and don’t feel included.
In my opinion, if they remove one type of inclusive campaign, they should remove all. Football is very diverse now. Religion should not be part of this either, religion is a choice, being gay, black, female isn’t. |
The problem is that you can only be your authentic self if everyone agrees. Freedom of voice and or thoughts is fine. Be we all have different thoughts and we don’t all respect each others. Not campaign will ever truly cover this. It can only ever be education, broadening people’s horizons. Not enforcement. |  | | |
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