| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 16:59 - Sep 7 with 2860 views | FBI |
A sought-after suburb... of Clacton :-D |  |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:27 - Sep 7 with 2770 views | charlie_lynton |
Lol. Now the Left think you have to pay stamp duty on other people's houses. Did you avoid paying it on her house as well?  |  | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:32 - Sep 7 with 2752 views | pointofblue |
I loathe Farage but this is stretching things slightly. The whole article is based on his partner buying a house rather than him. Why shouldn't she?
Additionally, Farage does not currently sit around the cabinet table discussing government policy on taxation. Rayner did. |  |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:38 - Sep 7 with 2725 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:32 - Sep 7 by pointofblue |
I loathe Farage but this is stretching things slightly. The whole article is based on his partner buying a house rather than him. Why shouldn't she?
Additionally, Farage does not currently sit around the cabinet table discussing government policy on taxation. Rayner did. |
I haven't read the article, but wasn't the point that he claimed to be buying a house in Clacton when accused of hardly ever being there... and then put it in his girlfriend's name to avoid stamp duty? [Post edited 7 Sep 18:16]
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:40 - Sep 7 with 2703 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:27 - Sep 7 by charlie_lynton |
Lol. Now the Left think you have to pay stamp duty on other people's houses. Did you avoid paying it on her house as well? |
People who want equality and justice aren't the 'left' you moron. |  | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:43 - Sep 7 with 2675 views | Dubtractor |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:38 - Sep 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I haven't read the article, but wasn't the point that he claimed to be buying a house in Clacton when accused of hardly ever being there... and then put it in his girlfriend's name to avoid stamp duty? [Post edited 7 Sep 18:16]
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Indeed.
He may have not broken any laws, but he has very clearly gamed the system somewhat.
He's perfectly entitled to do that, but it's somewhat hypocritical for him to be throwing stones at others. |  |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:03 - Sep 7 with 2601 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:32 - Sep 7 by pointofblue |
I loathe Farage but this is stretching things slightly. The whole article is based on his partner buying a house rather than him. Why shouldn't she?
Additionally, Farage does not currently sit around the cabinet table discussing government policy on taxation. Rayner did. |
His partner clearly did not buy the house
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:09 - Sep 7 with 2552 views | pointofblue |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:03 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
His partner clearly did not buy the house
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Thanks for this. The likes of the Guardian and Mirror need to make the most of the hypocrisy. Gain momentum so the mainstream broadcasters cannot ignore it. | |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:28 - Sep 7 with 2428 views | Ftnfwest |
The pressure has been constant about him not being in Clacton. Now it's starting up about him being in Clacton. I suppose in fairness he escaped being called 'scum' by rayner. Don't worry I'm sure he'll get nailed for something soon. |  | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:28 - Sep 7 with 2425 views | Edmundo |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:09 - Sep 7 by pointofblue |
Thanks for this. The likes of the Guardian and Mirror need to make the most of the hypocrisy. Gain momentum so the mainstream broadcasters cannot ignore it. |
But the BBC will, no doubt. It's like he alone is the official opposition.
Zero chance of him resigning anyhow: he's a morally-bankrupt grifter. |  |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:29 - Sep 7 with 2420 views | bluejacko |
Resign from what? Rayner is still an MP and Farage is not a cabinet minister. | | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:30 - Sep 7 with 2405 views | lowhouseblue |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:40 - Sep 7 by FromReuserWithLove |
People who want equality and justice aren't the 'left' you moron. |
i increasingly suspect that the online shouty 'left' in particular are people who think that there is only one interpretation of "equality" and "justice" and it's their's. people have spent centuries debating what those words imply, but it seems they are now a uni-dimensional absolute that good people are for and bad people are against. what a way to frame politics. |  |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:31 - Sep 7 with 2410 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:27 - Sep 7 by charlie_lynton |
Lol. Now the Left think you have to pay stamp duty on other people's houses. Did you avoid paying it on her house as well? |
That’s as ridiculous statement as you’ll see on here. The house at the centre of Rayner’s mess wasn’t hers either, so we could all play at that game and say ‘do the right think you have to pay stamp duty on other people’s houses now lol, lol, aren’t I clever’. It’s just moronic tribal balls.
Anyway, Farage’s situation is different and so I wouldn’t expect there to be any calls. He transferred the house to his partner’s name (edit- so she may not have been his partner, but he still transferred ownership which is the key point. Let’s call her his accomplice instead), which is above board. As is his company that he set up to subcontract his services, including all his media work, meaning he avoids paying as much tax on his earnings too. But again, all legal. He’s undoubtedly a tax avoider, so at worse that probably makes him a hypocrite (although in fairness to him he praised Rayner initially when he thought she was using the same loophole he did).
Worse is the damage he’s done to this country, continues to do and will ramp up on steroids if Reform win the next GE. He’s a danger to our wellbeing and prosperity. [Post edited 7 Sep 20:30]
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 21:07 - Sep 7 with 2004 views | BlueBadger |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:30 - Sep 7 by lowhouseblue |
i increasingly suspect that the online shouty 'left' in particular are people who think that there is only one interpretation of "equality" and "justice" and it's their's. people have spent centuries debating what those words imply, but it seems they are now a uni-dimensional absolute that good people are for and bad people are against. what a way to frame politics. |
I increasingly suspect that people who make wild assumptions like this are bootlicking wannabe centrists who think that appeasing fascists is OK because they have 'very real concerns' and think that 'balance' means that you have assume that 'hey, let's not be horrible to anyone who ins't satrught, white and cis hetero' and 'diffrunt people don't deserve human rights' are somehow morally equivalent. [Post edited 7 Sep 21:13]
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 21:53 - Sep 7 with 1852 views | lowhouseblue |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 21:07 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
I increasingly suspect that people who make wild assumptions like this are bootlicking wannabe centrists who think that appeasing fascists is OK because they have 'very real concerns' and think that 'balance' means that you have assume that 'hey, let's not be horrible to anyone who ins't satrught, white and cis hetero' and 'diffrunt people don't deserve human rights' are somehow morally equivalent. [Post edited 7 Sep 21:13]
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:01 - Sep 7 with 1804 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 18:29 - Sep 7 by bluejacko |
Resign from what? Rayner is still an MP and Farage is not a cabinet minister. |
Farage is an MP and the leader of a political party, he could quite easily resign from either of those. | |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:17 - Sep 7 with 1706 views | itfcsuth |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:38 - Sep 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I haven't read the article, but wasn't the point that he claimed to be buying a house in Clacton when accused of hardly ever being there... and then put it in his girlfriend's name to avoid stamp duty? [Post edited 7 Sep 18:16]
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I presume he does use it, although I doubt either live there permanently.
But I think the stretch is here, he hasn’t evaded any tax, he’s played the game, but within the rules, as I would as well, and I’m sure many others would if they could.
Ultimately he or she (either or), has paid what they’ve needed to pay as per the requirement. [Post edited 8 Sep 14:05]
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:47 - Sep 7 with 1563 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 17:27 - Sep 7 by charlie_lynton |
Lol. Now the Left think you have to pay stamp duty on other people's houses. Did you avoid paying it on her house as well? |
When did "the Left" come to mean anyone with a functioning brain? |  |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 07:38 - Sep 8 with 1338 views | rkc123 |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:17 - Sep 7 by itfcsuth |
I presume he does use it, although I doubt either live there permanently.
But I think the stretch is here, he hasn’t evaded any tax, he’s played the game, but within the rules, as I would as well, and I’m sure many others would if they could.
Ultimately he or she (either or), has paid what they’ve needed to pay as per the requirement. [Post edited 8 Sep 14:05]
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He's the leader of what at the moment according to polls is the most popular political party in the country, he claims to want to lead the country and cares about Britain, yet he is using his extremely privileged position to work the system so he has to pay as little tax as possible, and using loopholes which are obviously disingenuous.
If the whole country were able to work the system in the way people like Farage do then we would be f**ked; those scraping to get by have to pay their share, those with plenty manage to pay less than they should. I accept that it's not illegal, but someone claiming to be a 'man of the people' who wants to run the country should be held accountable for things like this whether or not they are technically working within the rules. | | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 08:11 - Sep 8 with 1255 views | Churchman |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:01 - Sep 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Farage is an MP and the leader of a political party, he could quite easily resign from either of those. |
Angela Rayner is still an MP and rightly so. She will probably get a seat in the Cabinet in the next couple of years - fine. My limited understanding of this is that AR resigned because she broke the Ministerial Code. The code, which is amended and approved every new Parliament, is there for a reason. She had to go and rightly so.
Suggesting that it’s the same for Farage doesn’t look right to me. My understanding is that regardless of his party status, he has not broken the law and is entitled to remain an MP - not that he’s the least bit interested in that but that’s down to the single cell pond life that voted for the idiot.
If he should resign as an MP for any reason it should be for being an odious a-wipe and possibly not a member of the human race.
As for minimising tax, it’s natural for people to do that. I’ve never had much choice but to pay full whack but there will be many a self employed dude, including MPs who have got away with paying much less.
Whilst I don’t like it, unless the rules are changed it has to be (gritted teeth) ok as long as it’s within the law and within any code you work to, whether it’s Ministerial, Civil Service or Basil Brush’s. |  | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 09:50 - Sep 8 with 1053 views | itfcsuth |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 07:38 - Sep 8 by rkc123 |
He's the leader of what at the moment according to polls is the most popular political party in the country, he claims to want to lead the country and cares about Britain, yet he is using his extremely privileged position to work the system so he has to pay as little tax as possible, and using loopholes which are obviously disingenuous.
If the whole country were able to work the system in the way people like Farage do then we would be f**ked; those scraping to get by have to pay their share, those with plenty manage to pay less than they should. I accept that it's not illegal, but someone claiming to be a 'man of the people' who wants to run the country should be held accountable for things like this whether or not they are technically working within the rules. |
That's more of a personal moral issue, but if we are talking about any politician there is no moral compass, whether Farage, Labour or Tories, so it's a pointless debate.
This is more of a legal and illegal debate, and ultimately Farage hasn't broken the law here. | | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 10:04 - Sep 8 with 990 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:17 - Sep 7 by itfcsuth |
I presume he does use it, although I doubt either live there permanently.
But I think the stretch is here, he hasn’t evaded any tax, he’s played the game, but within the rules, as I would as well, and I’m sure many others would if they could.
Ultimately he or she (either or), has paid what they’ve needed to pay as per the requirement. [Post edited 8 Sep 14:05]
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He's clearly avoided the tax by putting it in his girlfriend's name, albeit legally. That's why he's done it that way - to avoid the tax.
Tax avoidance is still frowned upon by the public, like when multinationals do it - it's still legal, they just have expensive lawyers to find all the loopholes. People don't like it, and see it as morally wrong even if it isn't technically legally wrong.
The point is, if you're a politician who has clearly "played the game" you (or your supporters) shouldn't be taking the moral high ground about someone else making a mistake. | |
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 10:09 - Sep 8 with 966 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 22:01 - Sep 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Farage is an MP and the leader of a political party, he could quite easily resign from either of those. |
Leader of Reform would be my expectation.
However, it isn't really hypocrisy is it? His policy is for ultra-low taxation especially on the richest. I would expect he would scrap stamp duty on second homes and he would probably have no issue with MPs bending rules to enhance their wealth.
But Rayner has resigned after being found to have broken the ministerial code, which was the stated position of her party too so there is no hypocrisy there either.
As long as potential electors are aware of where the real priorities of Farage and his party are.
EDIT: It would be interesting whether Farage's dealings would be seen to have broken the ministerial code were they investigated. Of course, whilst he isn't a minister, as leader of Reform he has the desire to become one. [Post edited 8 Sep 10:11]
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| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 10:52 - Sep 8 with 814 views | itfcsuth |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 10:04 - Sep 8 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He's clearly avoided the tax by putting it in his girlfriend's name, albeit legally. That's why he's done it that way - to avoid the tax.
Tax avoidance is still frowned upon by the public, like when multinationals do it - it's still legal, they just have expensive lawyers to find all the loopholes. People don't like it, and see it as morally wrong even if it isn't technically legally wrong.
The point is, if you're a politician who has clearly "played the game" you (or your supporters) shouldn't be taking the moral high ground about someone else making a mistake. |
Evaded tax sorry, avoided yes - apologises (editted).
I think that's the bulk of the issue here, Rayner evaded tax, Farage avoided, one is illegal and one isn't. | | | |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 10:56 - Sep 8 with 781 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Where's the pressure on Farage to resign for avoiding stamp duty? on 10:52 - Sep 8 by itfcsuth |
Evaded tax sorry, avoided yes - apologises (editted).
I think that's the bulk of the issue here, Rayner evaded tax, Farage avoided, one is illegal and one isn't. |
...and neither are a good look (especially for a politician), so one shouldn't claim some moral high ground over the other. | |
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