| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here 08:57 - Nov 23 with 5817 views | Dubtractor |
Yesterday wasn't great, certainly not as a spectacle, and we really need to do better against that sort of team at home but.....
It was a 0-0 draw, not a defeat, and comes on the back of 10 points from the last 12. We controlled the game from start to finish (granted without a cutting edge), and ensured that we didn't do a Charlton and give them soft goals to nick the game.
Criticism of the performance yesterday is reasonable as we need to be better, but some of the comments on here last night, off the back of a run of 3 wins and 2 draws in the last 5 games, just seem a bit OTT.
Seems like there are a decent chunk of our fanbase who can't wait to jump on the negatives, just as (being balanced) there are some who are so positive as to almost feel blind to some of the issues that we are still solving.
Just think a bit more patience needs to be shown in terms of the bigger picture, when the general direction of travel seems to be in the right direction. |  |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:02 - Nov 23 with 3332 views | Herbivore |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:05 - Nov 23 with 3304 views | noggin |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:02 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:08 - Nov 23 with 3303 views | Mullet |
Hope you had a lovely birthday despite yesterday, but I disagree to some extent. Having a hissy fit and demanding everyone is flogged is pointless.
But we aren't the Ipswich of old. The owners are expecting promotion, we've spent huge sums of money, chosen to tear down the relegation squad and it's not worked. If that was the first one of the season I'd make you right, but it's not.
We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that. We've won some games with sheer quality, but like yesterday when teams simply refuse to give way to us we are stumped as to what to do.
I do think as fans we need to adjust our mindset a little, this season is a massive opportunity wasted if we don't go up. |  |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:12 - Nov 23 with 3269 views | bluefunk |
Imagine how different the reaction would have been had we taken just one of the several spchances we had. We certainly weren’t great but still created enough to win the game, as Leif said post match, we just need to be more clinical. |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:14 - Nov 23 with 3247 views | Herbivore |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:08 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
Hope you had a lovely birthday despite yesterday, but I disagree to some extent. Having a hissy fit and demanding everyone is flogged is pointless.
But we aren't the Ipswich of old. The owners are expecting promotion, we've spent huge sums of money, chosen to tear down the relegation squad and it's not worked. If that was the first one of the season I'd make you right, but it's not.
We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that. We've won some games with sheer quality, but like yesterday when teams simply refuse to give way to us we are stumped as to what to do.
I do think as fans we need to adjust our mindset a little, this season is a massive opportunity wasted if we don't go up. |
"We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that.'
If we win our very winnable game in hand, we will be in third and 3 points off second with a superior goal difference. So I wouldn't say we are so far off that, I think that's being rather hyperbolic. It's been a frustrating season and we aren't playing at the level that we want to be and probably should be, at least not consistently. But despite looking like we're struggling to get out of third gear we are still well within reach of the automatic promotion places. There's things we need to improve on but we've got the potential to go on a very good run if we can make some small gains in key areas.
It's worth bearing in mind that since the very disruptive transfer window shut we're second in the table having played a game fewer than everyone else. Our start meant we had to play catch up after a poor first 5 games but since then we have improved, albeit not as much as we'd hoped, but enough that we have made up ground and kept in touch with the top 2. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:16 - Nov 23 with 3213 views | Dubtractor |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:08 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
Hope you had a lovely birthday despite yesterday, but I disagree to some extent. Having a hissy fit and demanding everyone is flogged is pointless.
But we aren't the Ipswich of old. The owners are expecting promotion, we've spent huge sums of money, chosen to tear down the relegation squad and it's not worked. If that was the first one of the season I'd make you right, but it's not.
We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that. We've won some games with sheer quality, but like yesterday when teams simply refuse to give way to us we are stumped as to what to do.
I do think as fans we need to adjust our mindset a little, this season is a massive opportunity wasted if we don't go up. |
Don't disagree with the bulk of that, and definitely not with the view that anything other than promotion this season will be a failure, but results and performances are (generally) moving in the right direction after a very sluggish start to the season.
We'll get a truer idea of where we are over the next few weeks with the glut of games lined up.
If we're not well set in the top 6 and in touching distance of the top 2 at the end of December, then I'll be concerned. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:19 - Nov 23 with 3177 views | Mullet |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:14 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
"We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that.'
If we win our very winnable game in hand, we will be in third and 3 points off second with a superior goal difference. So I wouldn't say we are so far off that, I think that's being rather hyperbolic. It's been a frustrating season and we aren't playing at the level that we want to be and probably should be, at least not consistently. But despite looking like we're struggling to get out of third gear we are still well within reach of the automatic promotion places. There's things we need to improve on but we've got the potential to go on a very good run if we can make some small gains in key areas.
It's worth bearing in mind that since the very disruptive transfer window shut we're second in the table having played a game fewer than everyone else. Our start meant we had to play catch up after a poor first 5 games but since then we have improved, albeit not as much as we'd hoped, but enough that we have made up ground and kept in touch with the top 2. |
We are currently 8th so "if" is a big hinge moment there. Given we lost at Blackburn last time and they've picked up a bit it's another game where (like yesterday) we can stumble.
The season is August to May, and the league table is the only thing that counts. We might go on and win the league from here, but there's no point pretending we've not been good enough for where we should be and the quality this season is poor across the division.
Understanding is good, but I think we've given the lads a relatively easy ride based on what they've produced thus far. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:24 - Nov 23 with 3133 views | bluefunk |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:19 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
We are currently 8th so "if" is a big hinge moment there. Given we lost at Blackburn last time and they've picked up a bit it's another game where (like yesterday) we can stumble.
The season is August to May, and the league table is the only thing that counts. We might go on and win the league from here, but there's no point pretending we've not been good enough for where we should be and the quality this season is poor across the division.
Understanding is good, but I think we've given the lads a relatively easy ride based on what they've produced thus far. |
Re your final sentence - what would more booing and moaning do? Do you think they aren’t trying to unlock massed defences, do you think they’re deliberately missing chances misplacing passes or giving away goals? | | | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:26 - Nov 23 with 3120 views | Churchman |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:08 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
Hope you had a lovely birthday despite yesterday, but I disagree to some extent. Having a hissy fit and demanding everyone is flogged is pointless.
But we aren't the Ipswich of old. The owners are expecting promotion, we've spent huge sums of money, chosen to tear down the relegation squad and it's not worked. If that was the first one of the season I'd make you right, but it's not.
We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that. We've won some games with sheer quality, but like yesterday when teams simply refuse to give way to us we are stumped as to what to do.
I do think as fans we need to adjust our mindset a little, this season is a massive opportunity wasted if we don't go up. |
The relegation squad tore itself down. Morsy saw an opportunity and took it, Delap and Hutchinson wanted out to the point where one refused to play. Burns has been injured, nobody is mentioning Burgess because he was poor the other week and Woolfenden can’t get in the team. Cajuste (who I don’t rate) is still with the club, Luongo all but retired, Phillips was a disaster, Tuanzebe wanted Prem football.
I’d like us to have retained Chaplin and Broadhead, if they wanted to stay. Davis, Hirst, Walton, Palmer and Burns are still with us. O’Shea, and Greaves are, but they’re loathed by many so don’t count.
There was far more change than I’d have liked, but some of it was unavoidable. Are we under achieving? Obviously, but since when was sport an exact science? As for the owners, they seem far more patient than the supporters. Many on here want McKenna out ASAP. I don’t. Not because he’s the best manager I’ve ever seen, but because it’s clear what he and the club are trying to do, unlike most clubs, and he’s a good fit.
If we fail this year, it’ll be under achieving by a long way. Everyone knows that, but like KMs promotion team, I suspect it’ll do a lot better next season.
As it goes, KM has already picked up on lack of support by the fans and I think he will go when the right opportunity comes his way, probably before the seasons end. Much of the forum will be overjoyed and be all slapped @rse faced with excitement for a new manager.
I won’t be. BCWYWF
Edit: spot on OP btw. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:26]
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:28 - Nov 23 with 3090 views | Mullet |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:24 - Nov 23 by bluefunk |
Re your final sentence - what would more booing and moaning do? Do you think they aren’t trying to unlock massed defences, do you think they’re deliberately missing chances misplacing passes or giving away goals? |
I'm not suggesting booing and that, I'm talking about how the analysis and narrative goes on here and elsewhere.
McKenna is on Prem money (good Prem money) and he can't out think Phil Parkinson with an embarassment of riches. That's not a one off either. People are still acting like we should be grateful he's here and these players opted to play for us.
We're not little old Ipswich anymore. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:30 - Nov 23 with 3075 views | Herbivore |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:19 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
We are currently 8th so "if" is a big hinge moment there. Given we lost at Blackburn last time and they've picked up a bit it's another game where (like yesterday) we can stumble.
The season is August to May, and the league table is the only thing that counts. We might go on and win the league from here, but there's no point pretending we've not been good enough for where we should be and the quality this season is poor across the division.
Understanding is good, but I think we've given the lads a relatively easy ride based on what they've produced thus far. |
I guess I just see very little value in the hyper critical stuff that is on here frequently if we haven't battered someone. It's filtering through into the ground, the atmosphere at PR has largely been shite all season. Understandable to an extent after the travails of last season but people seem to have forgotten where we've come from. We're approaching McKenna's four year anniversary and we were a right mess when he came in. We've been on a great ride and we're in a far better position now than we've been at any time in the last 20 years.
That doesn't mean anyone should be immune from criticism but we're more or less averaging 2 points per game since the start of September despite not yet hitting top form, so for me a lot of the negativity is over the top. If we're managing 2 points per game without being at our best then not much improvement is needed for us to start being a dominant force. The frustration is that we had been doing well at home and crap away and it seems that since we've started doing well away, the home form has dipped. Largely that's been down to poor finishing and decision making in the final third. It needs fixing but we have a manager who has shown us plenty of times that he can address issues and get it right. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:33 - Nov 23 with 3050 views | MattinLondon |
In isolation nil-nils like yesterday happen - sometimes a team simply fails to take their chances. But yesterday’s match, in context of so many, follows a pattern of slow ponderous play with the imagination and flair of Baldrick’s poetry. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:34]
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:34 - Nov 23 with 3044 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:26 - Nov 23 by Churchman |
The relegation squad tore itself down. Morsy saw an opportunity and took it, Delap and Hutchinson wanted out to the point where one refused to play. Burns has been injured, nobody is mentioning Burgess because he was poor the other week and Woolfenden can’t get in the team. Cajuste (who I don’t rate) is still with the club, Luongo all but retired, Phillips was a disaster, Tuanzebe wanted Prem football.
I’d like us to have retained Chaplin and Broadhead, if they wanted to stay. Davis, Hirst, Walton, Palmer and Burns are still with us. O’Shea, and Greaves are, but they’re loathed by many so don’t count.
There was far more change than I’d have liked, but some of it was unavoidable. Are we under achieving? Obviously, but since when was sport an exact science? As for the owners, they seem far more patient than the supporters. Many on here want McKenna out ASAP. I don’t. Not because he’s the best manager I’ve ever seen, but because it’s clear what he and the club are trying to do, unlike most clubs, and he’s a good fit.
If we fail this year, it’ll be under achieving by a long way. Everyone knows that, but like KMs promotion team, I suspect it’ll do a lot better next season.
As it goes, KM has already picked up on lack of support by the fans and I think he will go when the right opportunity comes his way, probably before the seasons end. Much of the forum will be overjoyed and be all slapped @rse faced with excitement for a new manager.
I won’t be. BCWYWF
Edit: spot on OP btw. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:26]
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Maybe someone could set up a poll, but I strongly suspect the statement "many on here want McKenna out ASAP" is a massive exaggeration. But I do largely agree with the OP. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:40]
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:37 - Nov 23 with 3014 views | MattinLondon |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:34 - Nov 23 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Maybe someone could set up a poll, but I strongly suspect the statement "many on here want McKenna out ASAP" is a massive exaggeration. But I do largely agree with the OP. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 9:40]
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It’s more than a massive exaggeration- it’s complete and utter bollox. | | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:37 - Nov 23 with 3008 views | waveneyblue |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:08 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
Hope you had a lovely birthday despite yesterday, but I disagree to some extent. Having a hissy fit and demanding everyone is flogged is pointless.
But we aren't the Ipswich of old. The owners are expecting promotion, we've spent huge sums of money, chosen to tear down the relegation squad and it's not worked. If that was the first one of the season I'd make you right, but it's not.
We should be shoulder to shoulder with Cov or at least stalking in 3rd and we are so far off that. We've won some games with sheer quality, but like yesterday when teams simply refuse to give way to us we are stumped as to what to do.
I do think as fans we need to adjust our mindset a little, this season is a massive opportunity wasted if we don't go up. |
I dont get what "supporters changing their mindset" will achieve or for that matter what it even means?
I think theres already too many who turn up just to have a whinge and get the arse if we arent 3 up after 30 minutes.
We all want promotion, we all know we arent quite there at the moment, but equally anyone with any sense can see that with a bit of luck we could be on a 5 match winning run.
Its such a bizarre comment. |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:40 - Nov 23 with 2983 views | bluefunk |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:28 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
I'm not suggesting booing and that, I'm talking about how the analysis and narrative goes on here and elsewhere.
McKenna is on Prem money (good Prem money) and he can't out think Phil Parkinson with an embarassment of riches. That's not a one off either. People are still acting like we should be grateful he's here and these players opted to play for us.
We're not little old Ipswich anymore. |
Sadly the narrative on here is playing out in the ground - all the negativity of the first few games is sitting there waiting to be expressed in ironic cheers when player X gets subbed or when Walton holds onto the ball for what the NS think is too long. Yesterday there were 6 players camped centrally on the edge of their box, yet we still created chances. We just need to take them consistently. Sadly that’s what home games are going to be for the most part. Away games are more likely to see teams have to come out and play allowing us more space. | | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:42 - Nov 23 with 2975 views | PhilTWTD |
Indeed, we created more than enough chances to win yesterday, but our execution in front of goal wasn't good enough. We made their keeper make saves but not really any you'd stand up and applaud. One or two are a bit anxious in front of goal at the moment, Akpom, Walle Egeli, McAteer.
But, on the plus side, unlike earlier in the season, we remained patient, kept to the script and didn't panic when we hadn't scored, so there was never any danger of a repeat of Charlton. This is still a team in development, so think a bit of patience is needed. Still fully expect us to be in the top two come the end of the season. |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:51 - Nov 23 with 2898 views | Herbivore |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:42 - Nov 23 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, we created more than enough chances to win yesterday, but our execution in front of goal wasn't good enough. We made their keeper make saves but not really any you'd stand up and applaud. One or two are a bit anxious in front of goal at the moment, Akpom, Walle Egeli, McAteer.
But, on the plus side, unlike earlier in the season, we remained patient, kept to the script and didn't panic when we hadn't scored, so there was never any danger of a repeat of Charlton. This is still a team in development, so think a bit of patience is needed. Still fully expect us to be in the top two come the end of the season. |
If we maintain the points per game average we've achieved since the transfer window closed - and it was a disruptive window for us right up to the end - we'll end up on 83 points come May. That might be enough for automatic promotion and that's without us getting any better than we've been in the last couple of months. I think we'll improve, there's been signs we're improving, so if we manage to keep progressing then we absolutely should be on track to go back up. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:52 - Nov 23 with 2894 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:40 - Nov 23 by bluefunk |
Sadly the narrative on here is playing out in the ground - all the negativity of the first few games is sitting there waiting to be expressed in ironic cheers when player X gets subbed or when Walton holds onto the ball for what the NS think is too long. Yesterday there were 6 players camped centrally on the edge of their box, yet we still created chances. We just need to take them consistently. Sadly that’s what home games are going to be for the most part. Away games are more likely to see teams have to come out and play allowing us more space. |
This was sadly very evident yesterday. And not only Walton - when O'Shea, or others, took a little time to assess the options, and wait for some movement, or openings, the atmosphere, and babbling, from the stand was tactile. This can't help. | | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:57 - Nov 23 with 2863 views | Blue_Uprising |
Agree the hyperbole is over the top. It’s not a disaster, very frustrating but not a disaster. Win away and it’s fine. Win the game in hand and it’s fine.
I do think it’s interesting to analyse what maybe we could do differently in these type of games.
I’m not objective, but I feel that other teams find a way to create more clear cut chances (chance count was ok but quite poor quality yesterday) and consistent pressure against this style of defensive play. Even if they don’t convert them and end result is the same. |  | | |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 10:00 - Nov 23 with 2850 views | Mullet |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:42 - Nov 23 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, we created more than enough chances to win yesterday, but our execution in front of goal wasn't good enough. We made their keeper make saves but not really any you'd stand up and applaud. One or two are a bit anxious in front of goal at the moment, Akpom, Walle Egeli, McAteer.
But, on the plus side, unlike earlier in the season, we remained patient, kept to the script and didn't panic when we hadn't scored, so there was never any danger of a repeat of Charlton. This is still a team in development, so think a bit of patience is needed. Still fully expect us to be in the top two come the end of the season. |
If we are at risk of Charlton ever happening again then things are worse than I thought!
Telling that Saints are 8 places off us, but only 3pts and they've sacked Still in that time. The table really is congested with crap sides, and then there's Sheffield and Norwich. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 10:01 - Nov 23 with 2837 views | PhilTWTD |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:51 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
If we maintain the points per game average we've achieved since the transfer window closed - and it was a disruptive window for us right up to the end - we'll end up on 83 points come May. That might be enough for automatic promotion and that's without us getting any better than we've been in the last couple of months. I think we'll improve, there's been signs we're improving, so if we manage to keep progressing then we absolutely should be on track to go back up. |
Indeed, I think allowing so much of our business to be done so late set us back a fair bit, but form has been good overall since September.
I don't think it's a surprise results have been a little better on the road lately as teams are always likely to be a little more adventurous against us in front of their own fans, which I think plays into our strengths. I suspect we'll have plenty of other frustrating afternoons at Portman Road, we used to under George Burley when teams came with a similar approach. | | | |
| As I noted yesterday…. on 10:06 - Nov 23 with 2784 views | Bloots |
….we really just need our “flair” players to have more of an impact.
Without them we’re alright, but nothing special really.
If one or two of them turn up and influence the game positively every week (there’s enough of them!) then we’ll win the majority of our games and be close to where we should be.
At the moment, as a group, they are too inconsistent.
If that inconsistency remains throughout the season, or their influence disappears entirely, that’s when we need to start asking serious questions. |  |
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| “Kept to the script”…. on 10:09 - Nov 23 with 2760 views | Bloots |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:42 - Nov 23 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, we created more than enough chances to win yesterday, but our execution in front of goal wasn't good enough. We made their keeper make saves but not really any you'd stand up and applaud. One or two are a bit anxious in front of goal at the moment, Akpom, Walle Egeli, McAteer.
But, on the plus side, unlike earlier in the season, we remained patient, kept to the script and didn't panic when we hadn't scored, so there was never any danger of a repeat of Charlton. This is still a team in development, so think a bit of patience is needed. Still fully expect us to be in the top two come the end of the season. |
….hmm.
Some might say that that is part of the problem Phil.
I’d love to see a couple of our “star men” go off script a little more often. | |
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| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 10:09 - Nov 23 with 2753 views | patrickswell |
| I do think there is a tendency to overreact to every bump in the road on here on 09:28 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
I'm not suggesting booing and that, I'm talking about how the analysis and narrative goes on here and elsewhere.
McKenna is on Prem money (good Prem money) and he can't out think Phil Parkinson with an embarassment of riches. That's not a one off either. People are still acting like we should be grateful he's here and these players opted to play for us.
We're not little old Ipswich anymore. |
That’s the Phil Parkinson whose team are the only ones to beat Coventry so far, and whose team also got a better result than we did at Middlesbrough. |  | | |
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