| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? 23:40 - Mar 1 with 21664 views | flashblue |
Sick of all the posts about fantastic odds encouraging others to bet. |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:13 - Mar 2 with 1258 views | Benters |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 15:18 - Mar 2 by J2BLUE |
'I dont give a toss who gambles on what to be honest,but to say you dont have a addiction is wrong.'
This isn't really worth replying to as anyone sensible knows it's rubbish. It's like me saying it doesn't matter if you have half a pint three times a week with lunch or 10 pints in the pub each night, you have an addiction.
There are periods where i'll bet several times a day (weekends) and there are weeks where i'll bet absolutely nothing (most international breaks). Today is a no bet day as there is no football. |
I dont drink at night i prefer lunch times . |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:15 - Mar 2 with 1250 views | Benters |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 15:27 - Mar 2 by J2BLUE |
Don't take it personally. It's what he wants. The amusing thing is i'm mainly a matched betting 'gambler' which is like having all the thrill of money at risk completely removed. I was playing a slot in front of someone the other day and they said why don't you increase your stake. I answered that using minimum stakes decreased the variance and it was all about extracting as much cash as possible from the offer. There's very little emotion to it.
As for my main betting, my biggest stake on the biggest racing gambling event of the year is (and will remain) £3.50! Less than a pint of Ghost Ship :)
I wonder if Benters has realised that every shot he takes at us is a shot at Taximan? |
Ghost Ship is £3.10 in my local. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:18 - Mar 2 with 1240 views | hoppy |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:12 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
Sorry didn't mean to down arrow that.
No, I know you wasn't. I was just saying. |
"No, I know you weren't" |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:24 - Mar 2 with 1200 views | Ryorry |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:12 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
Sorry didn't mean to down arrow that.
No, I know you wasn't. I was just saying. |
I hope you also didn't mean to with my 'nail on head' post (I can see why Benters meant it tho!  ) |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:25 - Mar 2 with 1197 views | Benters |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:24 - Mar 2 by Ryorry |
I hope you also didn't mean to with my 'nail on head' post (I can see why Benters meant it tho! ) |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:32 - Mar 2 with 1175 views | Ryorry |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:13 - Mar 2 by Benters |
I dont drink at night i prefer lunch times . |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:38 - Mar 2 with 1147 views | unbelievablue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 15:51 - Mar 2 by itfcjoe |
"You can talk about 24/7 access all you want as if there isn't a shop selling alcohol within a short walk of your homes, supermarkets who will bring cheaply priced alcohol to your door and even websites like Just Eat who will happily deliver as much alcohol as you like late into the night"
The whole point I make with this, is that barriers are put in place for other vices. Even if you were standing in a bookies it is better to bet online as better odds etc. Any vice that is more convenient should be less attractive in reality. |
Children and young adults need to be taught far more about managing their finances responsibly, too. There is no 'single fix'. |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:38 - Mar 2 with 1147 views | Ryorry |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 15:51 - Mar 2 by itfcjoe |
"You can talk about 24/7 access all you want as if there isn't a shop selling alcohol within a short walk of your homes, supermarkets who will bring cheaply priced alcohol to your door and even websites like Just Eat who will happily deliver as much alcohol as you like late into the night"
The whole point I make with this, is that barriers are put in place for other vices. Even if you were standing in a bookies it is better to bet online as better odds etc. Any vice that is more convenient should be less attractive in reality. |
Since when was having a pint or a quid on the horses a "vice"?! | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:41 - Mar 2 with 1133 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:39 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
It's not the same. A youngster can go online, make up an account and start gambling, within a few clicks from this place. They can't just walk into a pub or supermarket and buy booze.
Also it generally takes many years of abuse to get an alcohol problem. A gambler can rack up massive debts in a matter of hours.
There's no double standards as far as I see it.
You're usually a reasonable and empathetic person, so I'm sure you can see where I and others are coming from. I'm not wanting to spoil anyone's fun, I just want it tucked away. Cigarettes are hidden these days... a separate board would be a good thing IMO. I know some won't agree, but there you go. |
I haven't read this thread from the beginning but I can't see how anyone can disagree with what you have just posted. |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:44 - Mar 2 with 1118 views | artsbossbeard |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:38 - Mar 2 by Ryorry |
Since when was having a pint or a quid on the horses a "vice"?! |
I think it's generally known as a "weekend" for a lot of people. |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:45 - Mar 2 with 1114 views | unbelievablue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:41 - Mar 2 by GlasgowBlue |
I haven't read this thread from the beginning but I can't see how anyone can disagree with what you have just posted. |
I give it 6 minutes before someone does. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:47 - Mar 2 with 1099 views | J2BLUE |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:39 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
It's not the same. A youngster can go online, make up an account and start gambling, within a few clicks from this place. They can't just walk into a pub or supermarket and buy booze.
Also it generally takes many years of abuse to get an alcohol problem. A gambler can rack up massive debts in a matter of hours.
There's no double standards as far as I see it.
You're usually a reasonable and empathetic person, so I'm sure you can see where I and others are coming from. I'm not wanting to spoil anyone's fun, I just want it tucked away. Cigarettes are hidden these days... a separate board would be a good thing IMO. I know some won't agree, but there you go. |
i completely disagree. You're assuming it's easy to get an online account. They have a lot more sophisticated systems in place to stop kids gambling than you think. I almost always had to provide ID verification when I first signed up to bookies. There is definitely some sort of database or check they do to verify whether they need more info.
I assume you are in favour of an auto block on online porn with people having to request access via their ISP? After all any kid with an internet connection and the ability to read can click 'yes I'm 18'. |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:47 - Mar 2 with 1096 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:41 - Mar 2 by GlasgowBlue |
I haven't read this thread from the beginning but I can't see how anyone can disagree with what you have just posted. |
I really wouldn't bother reading the whole thread. It's made me feel quite depressed.
I now need to go out for chocolate and whisky. |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:47 - Mar 2 with 1095 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:18 - Mar 2 by hoppy |
"No, I know you weren't" |
I know, I know. That's a case of men not being able to multi-task. I was on the phone to HSBC at the same time! |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:48 - Mar 2 with 1082 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:24 - Mar 2 by Ryorry |
I hope you also didn't mean to with my 'nail on head' post (I can see why Benters meant it tho! ) |
yeah I did. Sorry, but I disagree. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:50 - Mar 2 with 1063 views | unbelievablue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:47 - Mar 2 by J2BLUE |
i completely disagree. You're assuming it's easy to get an online account. They have a lot more sophisticated systems in place to stop kids gambling than you think. I almost always had to provide ID verification when I first signed up to bookies. There is definitely some sort of database or check they do to verify whether they need more info.
I assume you are in favour of an auto block on online porn with people having to request access via their ISP? After all any kid with an internet connection and the ability to read can click 'yes I'm 18'. |
I found that it was very much site dependent (or at least it was 3+ years ago). Some wouldn't care, some would ask for all sorts of verification. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:50 - Mar 2 with 1061 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:38 - Mar 2 by Ryorry |
Since when was having a pint or a quid on the horses a "vice"?! |
You're exaggerating to the lowest extremes. If people only ever had one pint or bet £1 there wouldn't be any drinking or gambling problems in this country. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:51 - Mar 2 with 1049 views | Ryorry |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:39 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
It's not the same. A youngster can go online, make up an account and start gambling, within a few clicks from this place. They can't just walk into a pub or supermarket and buy booze.
Also it generally takes many years of abuse to get an alcohol problem. A gambler can rack up massive debts in a matter of hours.
There's no double standards as far as I see it.
You're usually a reasonable and empathetic person, so I'm sure you can see where I and others are coming from. I'm not wanting to spoil anyone's fun, I just want it tucked away. Cigarettes are hidden these days... a separate board would be a good thing IMO. I know some won't agree, but there you go. |
I was actually referring to something that J2 said (altho you couldn't have known that I meant it more specificlly of course) - namely, the way that taking illegal drugs is bigged up into being some sort of 'cool' activity on here. That's also something that youngsters can get straight into by going to certain areas of their locality. Yet gambling's the only thing that's picked up as having even *possible* negative problems! Double standards & hypocrisy on here regarding that is a fact I'm afraid.
I haven't objected to a side forum for gambling threads. And I think people are forgetting that Rommy was atually invited by Phil to write the racing tips threads/blogs. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:54 - Mar 2 with 1030 views | Ryorry |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:50 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
You're exaggerating to the lowest extremes. If people only ever had one pint or bet £1 there wouldn't be any drinking or gambling problems in this country. |
It's what I do, so I rather object to those activities being called "vices"! | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:56 - Mar 2 with 1013 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:50 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
You're exaggerating to the lowest extremes. If people only ever had one pint or bet £1 there wouldn't be any drinking or gambling problems in this country. |
I do think there are huge double standards on here from gambling compared to drinking and drugs.
Where's the consistency? |  |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:57 - Mar 2 with 1007 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 15:36 - Mar 2 by The_Romford_Blue |
I had to chuckle in that gambling thread the other day when Benters was having a moan at me over something on there (the usual rubbish) and the very next reply was from taxi to someone alse that he's saves up £3500 for Cheltenham next week to bet with.
Shockingly, Benters ignored that comment from taxi. |
Benters.. any comment on this?
You've replied to others since but ignored this one. Why? | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:59 - Mar 2 with 1002 views | Ryorry |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:41 - Mar 2 by GlasgowBlue |
I haven't read this thread from the beginning but I can't see how anyone can disagree with what you have just posted. |
If you haven't read the thread, you don't know what's been said, the context, what it's been compared with etc. You know, the sort of thing you usually have a go at other people for not considering ..  | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:59 - Mar 2 with 1001 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:47 - Mar 2 by J2BLUE |
i completely disagree. You're assuming it's easy to get an online account. They have a lot more sophisticated systems in place to stop kids gambling than you think. I almost always had to provide ID verification when I first signed up to bookies. There is definitely some sort of database or check they do to verify whether they need more info.
I assume you are in favour of an auto block on online porn with people having to request access via their ISP? After all any kid with an internet connection and the ability to read can click 'yes I'm 18'. |
Look, we could go down all sorts of routes talking about how different bad things could be restricted and spend hours and hours on putting the world to rights.
I see nothing too inconveniencing for anyone to put gambling in its own private section. What's the problem with it?
As you may know, I had a crack at the matched betting you do, and as you also know - you have to open a lot of accounts to do it. I found some restricting and with good checks, others not so much. I imagine most savvy kids could get round it if they really wanted to.
It's a bit different to walking in somewhere to buy alcohol where you're highly visible. | |
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| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 17:00 - Mar 2 with 995 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Can we have a separate forum for all gambling posts on here? on 16:59 - Mar 2 by Dolly2.0 |
Look, we could go down all sorts of routes talking about how different bad things could be restricted and spend hours and hours on putting the world to rights.
I see nothing too inconveniencing for anyone to put gambling in its own private section. What's the problem with it?
As you may know, I had a crack at the matched betting you do, and as you also know - you have to open a lot of accounts to do it. I found some restricting and with good checks, others not so much. I imagine most savvy kids could get round it if they really wanted to.
It's a bit different to walking in somewhere to buy alcohol where you're highly visible. |
But with alcohol 'most savvy kids could get round it if they really want to' as well | |
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