| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. 16:55 - Aug 6 with 24399 views | homer_123 |
Not surprising I guess.
Anyone think their stance might change as we veer towards Oct? |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 21:27 - Aug 7 with 3559 views | tabletopjoe |
Only in public. |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 07:24 - Aug 8 with 3455 views | No9 |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 08:26 - Aug 7 by Pinewoodblue |
There is even less time than that. After a vote of no confidence 14 days are allowed to give others a chance to form a government that thr HoC can approve. Thr five week period begins after that. If the vot of no confidence is any later thsn the first week after recall it will be too late.
We would probably leave the EU One hour after polling stations close. Government cannot make any controversial decisions in those five weeks either so couldn't postpone Brexit as that would be contrary to the law which still dictates we leave 11pm on 31st October. |
With the wording in place in laws on the statue books, leaving the EU as you describe will be illegal.
that may start a whole new process of argument.
This has never been though trhrough, it is right wing ideology with dark intent. |  | | |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 12:37 - Aug 8 with 3395 views | Ryorry |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 07:24 - Aug 8 by No9 |
With the wording in place in laws on the statue books, leaving the EU as you describe will be illegal.
that may start a whole new process of argument.
This has never been though trhrough, it is right wing ideology with dark intent. |
When even some of our own MPs don't understand how the EU works, (or just lie about it) it makes Cameron's decision to offer the public a referendum on it even more scurrilous and reckless. |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:34 - Aug 8 with 3365 views | tabletopjoe |
They would do anything to stop Britain leaving, which would be disastrous for them. But now they don’t have to, because we’re not leaving anyway. They’ve pretty much known this all along, which is why they’ve made no effort to negotiate a future apart. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:38 - Aug 8 with 3354 views | SpruceMoose |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:34 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
They would do anything to stop Britain leaving, which would be disastrous for them. But now they don’t have to, because we’re not leaving anyway. They’ve pretty much known this all along, which is why they’ve made no effort to negotiate a future apart. |
Great isn't it!?  |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:39 - Aug 8 with 3350 views | No9 |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 12:37 - Aug 8 by Ryorry |
When even some of our own MPs don't understand how the EU works, (or just lie about it) it makes Cameron's decision to offer the public a referendum on it even more scurrilous and reckless. |
The key to an answer may well lay in the actions, rather than the words, that Mr Cameron actoined once he was elected leader of the party. | | | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:41 - Aug 8 with 3347 views | Pilgrimblue |
I just feel that they want to play hard ball for as long as possible in order to discourage any other members from leaving. However, brinkmanship is fine but they are losing more than us in exports so I expect them to renegotiate either just before or just after 31 October. |  | | |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:43 - Aug 8 with 3334 views | SpruceMoose |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:41 - Aug 8 by Pilgrimblue |
I just feel that they want to play hard ball for as long as possible in order to discourage any other members from leaving. However, brinkmanship is fine but they are losing more than us in exports so I expect them to renegotiate either just before or just after 31 October. |
I think you'll be proved incorrect personally. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:51 - Aug 8 with 3316 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:34 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
They would do anything to stop Britain leaving, which would be disastrous for them. But now they don’t have to, because we’re not leaving anyway. They’ve pretty much known this all along, which is why they’ve made no effort to negotiate a future apart. |
Amazing the brinkmanship the EU has played with it isn't it?
Just a shame we haven't got the balls to show them how stuffed they would be without us. They need us so much more than we need them don't they?
I am currently reading "Gone With the Wind". The view you hold is so like that expressed by the south even in the face of imminent defeat to the "Yankees". Perhaps another comparison would be that Iraqi general in a live TV interview at the end of the Iraq War. |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:01 - Aug 8 with 3301 views | tabletopjoe |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:51 - Aug 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Amazing the brinkmanship the EU has played with it isn't it?
Just a shame we haven't got the balls to show them how stuffed they would be without us. They need us so much more than we need them don't they?
I am currently reading "Gone With the Wind". The view you hold is so like that expressed by the south even in the face of imminent defeat to the "Yankees". Perhaps another comparison would be that Iraqi general in a live TV interview at the end of the Iraq War. |
It’s mainly due to the fact that the powers in the EU can’t even imagine how a country should run itself, making its own laws, in the interests of its own people. These international socialists now have the mandate to hold power, since the collapse of Communism, and they will stop at nothing until their dream of a supranational state rules over the former nation states, with those cultures destroyed and sucked up into one giant corporate, consuming mass of misery. Enjoy the future. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:11 - Aug 8 with 3281 views | Herbivore |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:01 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
It’s mainly due to the fact that the powers in the EU can’t even imagine how a country should run itself, making its own laws, in the interests of its own people. These international socialists now have the mandate to hold power, since the collapse of Communism, and they will stop at nothing until their dream of a supranational state rules over the former nation states, with those cultures destroyed and sucked up into one giant corporate, consuming mass of misery. Enjoy the future. |
Lolz. You okay hun? Might want to start using sources that aren't Katie Hopkins or Nigel Farage. |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:13 - Aug 8 with 3276 views | footers |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:01 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
It’s mainly due to the fact that the powers in the EU can’t even imagine how a country should run itself, making its own laws, in the interests of its own people. These international socialists now have the mandate to hold power, since the collapse of Communism, and they will stop at nothing until their dream of a supranational state rules over the former nation states, with those cultures destroyed and sucked up into one giant corporate, consuming mass of misery. Enjoy the future. |
"international socialists"
"one giant corporate"
Think you've got a bit of homework still to do on this one, bud!
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:23 - Aug 8 with 3255 views | SpruceMoose |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:13 - Aug 8 by footers |
"international socialists"
"one giant corporate"
Think you've got a bit of homework still to do on this one, bud!
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He could start with basic paragraphs and go from there. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:24 - Aug 8 with 3256 views | flimflam |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 13:41 - Aug 8 by Pilgrimblue |
I just feel that they want to play hard ball for as long as possible in order to discourage any other members from leaving. However, brinkmanship is fine but they are losing more than us in exports so I expect them to renegotiate either just before or just after 31 October. |
If Germany the so called industrial EU power house is verging on the brink of recession off the back of poor economic figures then that reinforces that we will be better off out.
The EU is a busted flush and will cease to exists in 10 yrs. |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:26 - Aug 8 with 3251 views | artsbossbeard |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:01 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
It’s mainly due to the fact that the powers in the EU can’t even imagine how a country should run itself, making its own laws, in the interests of its own people. These international socialists now have the mandate to hold power, since the collapse of Communism, and they will stop at nothing until their dream of a supranational state rules over the former nation states, with those cultures destroyed and sucked up into one giant corporate, consuming mass of misery. Enjoy the future. |
Well, I'm convinced.
Where do I sign? |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:31 - Aug 8 with 3232 views | Herbivore |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:24 - Aug 8 by flimflam |
If Germany the so called industrial EU power house is verging on the brink of recession off the back of poor economic figures then that reinforces that we will be better off out.
The EU is a busted flush and will cease to exists in 10 yrs. |
It really won't. The UK on the other hand very likely won't exist in 10 years. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:31 - Aug 8 with 3228 views | noggin |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:01 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
It’s mainly due to the fact that the powers in the EU can’t even imagine how a country should run itself, making its own laws, in the interests of its own people. These international socialists now have the mandate to hold power, since the collapse of Communism, and they will stop at nothing until their dream of a supranational state rules over the former nation states, with those cultures destroyed and sucked up into one giant corporate, consuming mass of misery. Enjoy the future. |
Which laws specifically? |  |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:32 - Aug 8 with 3229 views | tabletopjoe |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:26 - Aug 8 by artsbossbeard |
Well, I'm convinced.
Where do I sign? |
Indeed, there’s a lot of you. I just wish you’d be honest and form your own party, instead of disrupting other people’s. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:33 - Aug 8 with 3223 views | SpruceMoose |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:24 - Aug 8 by flimflam |
If Germany the so called industrial EU power house is verging on the brink of recession off the back of poor economic figures then that reinforces that we will be better off out.
The EU is a busted flush and will cease to exists in 10 yrs. |
Oh my sweet summer child. Bless your heart. | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:34 - Aug 8 with 3221 views | artsbossbeard |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:32 - Aug 8 by tabletopjoe |
Indeed, there’s a lot of you. I just wish you’d be honest and form your own party, instead of disrupting other people’s. |
Other people's what? | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:37 - Aug 8 with 3211 views | SpruceMoose |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:34 - Aug 8 by artsbossbeard |
Other people's what? |
Delusional fantasies of a snow white England and Royal Blue passports? | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:43 - Aug 8 with 3200 views | artsbossbeard |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:37 - Aug 8 by SpruceMoose |
Delusional fantasies of a snow white England and Royal Blue passports? |
Brexit reminds me of David Essex's artillery man character in Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds.
Yes, he was talking about an alien invasion bit I think it rings true with getting a blue passport.
Take a look around you at the world we've come to know
Does it seem to be much more than a crazy circus show
But maybe from the madness something beautiful will grow
In a brave new world
With just a handful of men
We'll start - we'll start all over again - all over again - all over again - all over again
We'll build shops and hospitals and barracks right under their noses - right under their
feet! Everything we need - banks, prisons and schools... We'll send scouting parties to
collect books and stuff, and men like you'll teach the kids. Not poems and rubbish -
science, so we can get everything working. We'll build villages and towns and... and...
we'll play each other at cricket! Listen, maybe one day we'll capture a Fighting Machine,
eh? Learn how to make 'em ourselves and then wallop! Our turn to do some wiping out!
Whoosh with our Heat Ray - Whoosh! And them running and dying, beaten at their own
game. Man on top again!
Now our domination of the Earth is fading fast
And out of the confusion the chance has come at last
To build a better future from the ashes of the past
In a brave new world
With just a handful of men
We'll start all over again
Look - Man is born in freedom but he soon becomes a slave
In cages of convention from the cradle to the grave
The weak fall by the wayside but the strong will be saved | |
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| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:44 - Aug 8 with 3185 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So....the EU are refusing to renegotiate. on 14:24 - Aug 8 by flimflam |
If Germany the so called industrial EU power house is verging on the brink of recession off the back of poor economic figures then that reinforces that we will be better off out.
The EU is a busted flush and will cease to exists in 10 yrs. |
and yet Germany recognises that it won't be … as indeed the majority of those charged with taking political decisions in this country do too.
Which way do you want to argue this? Are Germany benefitting from the EU at our expense or is there a worldwide downturn that we need every support to ride out?
Brexit would be disastrous enough if the world economy was healthy. If it coincides with a worldwide recession we could be in more trouble than even the experts predict. | |
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