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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two 12:05 - Feb 19 with 34940 viewsGeoffSentence

well, according to Craig Ramage they do

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/craig-ramage-racist-derby-coun

It honestly beggars belief what goes through some people's minds and even more so what comes out of their mouths.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:18 - Feb 19 with 5996 viewsBlueBadger

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:14 - Feb 19 by GlasgowBlue

The absolute nerve of a black man who has most likely been on the receiving end of radical abuse, publicly calling out somebody who in a position of power and has used the sort of language that normalised the type of racism he has had to put up with.

I mean who do these black peoples with chips on their shoulder think they are?


I think we need to recognise that it's actually white people who are the victims here, because a rapper has said some nasty things about Boris Johnson, he clearly hates all white people.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:19 - Feb 19 with 5987 viewsBlueBadger

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:04 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

But it’s ok for black artists to go on with a chip on their shoulders on national TV on the Brit awards? No wonder these young impressionable footballs have these them and us attitudes


Give over, you massive fanny.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:19 - Feb 19 with 5998 viewsGuthrum

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:13 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Because for 99% of the population there is no racism in this country, it is the 1% minority that make it an issue giving the rappers a platform to turn it mainstream and give it the big “everyone is racist” at prime time on TV. Wasn’t it stormzy who did an interview in the Italian media claiming that the uk was a racist country? Quite ironic really given that Italy and countries further east and south in Europe are far more racist than the UK


Are you sure about that figure? Including people who deal out racism (even casually) as well as those on the receiving end. I'd say it's 50% at best.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:19 - Feb 19 with 5987 viewsfooters

*rubs eyes*

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 with 5994 viewsEly_Blue

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:17 - Feb 19 by Herbivore

So because racism for you as a white man isn't an issue then you think that black people who do experience racism should just put up with it and pipe down? That's a hot take.
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Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:22 - Feb 19 with 5976 viewsvapour_trail

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.


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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:22 - Feb 19 with 5970 viewsBlueBadger

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.


Choo choo! The whatabouttery train is now arriving at platform one!

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:25 - Feb 19 with 5962 viewsitfcjoe

Sad that these attitudes still exist.

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gmpf on 13:27 - Feb 19 with 5950 viewsDyland

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:04 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

But it’s ok for black artists to go on with a chip on their shoulders on national TV on the Brit awards? No wonder these young impressionable footballs have these them and us attitudes


Don't worry, it's okay to be white.

ffs

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:27 - Feb 19 with 5949 viewsBrianTablet

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:18 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger

I think we need to recognise that it's actually white people who are the victims here, because a rapper has said some nasty things about Boris Johnson, he clearly hates all white people.


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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:28 - Feb 19 with 5944 viewsclive_baker

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.


Crikey.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:28 - Feb 19 with 5948 viewsBackToRussia

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.


Give me one instance where that has occurred. Also I actually doubt there are any areas in the UK that have a majority BAME population. Even in areas of London and Birmingham it's still going to be 50%+ White.

But obviously, it would be OK. No one gets to hate on the basis of skin colour.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:31 - Feb 19 with 5931 viewssparks

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.


Yes- it would be absolutely acceptable.

So what?

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He literally didn't say that though...... on 13:32 - Feb 19 with 5934 viewsBloots

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:13 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Because for 99% of the population there is no racism in this country, it is the 1% minority that make it an issue giving the rappers a platform to turn it mainstream and give it the big “everyone is racist” at prime time on TV. Wasn’t it stormzy who did an interview in the Italian media claiming that the uk was a racist country? Quite ironic really given that Italy and countries further east and south in Europe are far more racist than the UK


....did he?

He was asked if racism still existed in the UK, to which he replied "Yes, 100%".

It was then intentionally spun by certain parties to him saying "the UK is 100% racist".

Stop being a knob.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:32 - Feb 19 with 5923 viewssparks

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:28 - Feb 19 by BackToRussia

Give me one instance where that has occurred. Also I actually doubt there are any areas in the UK that have a majority BAME population. Even in areas of London and Birmingham it's still going to be 50%+ White.

But obviously, it would be OK. No one gets to hate on the basis of skin colour.


You are wrong there. It absolutely is a thing, and there are certainly areas where a white person is a small minority and sometimes made to feel as such.

But that has absolutely no relevance to the subject of the thread- and is absolutely no jutsification for the quite extraordinary comments from Ely.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:37 - Feb 19 with 5902 viewsBackToRussia

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:32 - Feb 19 by sparks

You are wrong there. It absolutely is a thing, and there are certainly areas where a white person is a small minority and sometimes made to feel as such.

But that has absolutely no relevance to the subject of the thread- and is absolutely no jutsification for the quite extraordinary comments from Ely.


It's weird how you hear absolutely nothing about it eh. I very much doubt any area larger than a single road in a city has whites as a minority in this country.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:37 - Feb 19 with 5934 viewsDyland

Fair play his apology. Doesn't double down, and effectively calls out his own unconscious bias. He should be allowed to move on.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:41 - Feb 19 with 5889 viewsvapour_trail

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:37 - Feb 19 by BackToRussia

It's weird how you hear absolutely nothing about it eh. I very much doubt any area larger than a single road in a city has whites as a minority in this country.


I’m with bully here. I lived in bury park in Luton and that was my experience and that ease last century. There are plenty of communities as such.

But as bully says, nonsensical stuff from Ely, who has embarrassed himself.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:41 - Feb 19 with 5884 viewshaynes_toe1

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:20 - Feb 19 by Ely_Blue

Ok so flip it around the other way, would it still be acceptable for example for a white male in a largely black or ethnic area of the uk to complain about racism? Let’s face it that also happens but people DEAL WITH IT.


Alright, racist.
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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:43 - Feb 19 with 5869 viewsBlueBadger

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:37 - Feb 19 by Dyland

Fair play his apology. Doesn't double down, and effectively calls out his own unconscious bias. He should be allowed to move on.


If he learns and grows up a bit, we'll all live with that, I think.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:44 - Feb 19 with 5869 viewsMrTown

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:05 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger

You're very naive if you don't think having a thick, openly racist prime minister won't embolden other, equally thick and racist people to be openly racist.


In your opinion.

Just be clear, I'm nor in favour or not of Boris Johnson.

But blaming him for something like this is ridiculous.
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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:44 - Feb 19 with 5864 viewsfooters

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:43 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger

If he learns and grows up a bit, we'll all live with that, I think.


Are you talking about Ramage or Ely now?

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:45 - Feb 19 with 5853 viewsBlueBadger

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:44 - Feb 19 by footers

Are you talking about Ramage or Ely now?


Yes.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:46 - Feb 19 with 5851 viewsjeera

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:44 - Feb 19 by MrTown

In your opinion.

Just be clear, I'm nor in favour or not of Boris Johnson.

But blaming him for something like this is ridiculous.
[Post edited 19 Feb 2020 13:46]


And in the opinions of most normal, right-minded folk.

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All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:46 - Feb 19 with 5860 viewssparks

All Derby's young black lads need pulling down a peg or two on 13:37 - Feb 19 by BackToRussia

It's weird how you hear absolutely nothing about it eh. I very much doubt any area larger than a single road in a city has whites as a minority in this country.


Simply wrong.

Pop along Whitton in Birmingham. There are areas consisting of far more than just one street. I have lived there and indeed experienced what it is like to be a minority there, which ta times was not pleasant.

But what that has to do with anything really is beyond me.

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