| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday 07:36 - May 7 with 4867 views | bluelagos |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 10:16 - May 7 with 1505 views | 26_Paz |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 10:11 - May 7 by xrayspecs |
I believe that the flat lining in total deaths/infections is masking two big trends.
Falling transmission rates, hospitalisations and deaths in the general population but increasing rates among frail elderly in care homes. NHSE announced yesterday a further circa 330 deaths in hospital and the UK wide total figure in all settings was around double that. Suggests that deaths in care homes are an increasing proportion of total fatalities. |
Exactly, and its easier to manage cases in care homes than in wider society. |  |
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| The figures released yesterday.... on 10:31 - May 7 with 1479 views | Guthrum |
| The figures released yesterday.... on 09:45 - May 7 by 26_Paz |
It might be too early, it might not, we don't know. We need to get the economy going sooner rather than later though, can't hide away forever.
As someone else has said the facts (I know that's a dirty word on here) were presented by me and a couple of other posters to point out that someone had made a statement that was completely untrue. |
We can't hide away for ever, but it hasn't really been that long, either. Barely six weeks. Is it worth risking an upturn in infection rates for the sake of a few more?
The world economy is going to be mightily stuffed after this whatever happens. The effects will last for years. Four weeks isn't going to make a whole lot of difference.
I think, like Donald Trump, some people are getting impatient because they see others able to lift restrictions and want to do so themselves, before their countries have reached the same levels of reduction in the disease. |  |
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| The figures released yesterday.... on 10:34 - May 7 with 1473 views | xrayspecs |
| The figures released yesterday.... on 10:31 - May 7 by Guthrum |
We can't hide away for ever, but it hasn't really been that long, either. Barely six weeks. Is it worth risking an upturn in infection rates for the sake of a few more?
The world economy is going to be mightily stuffed after this whatever happens. The effects will last for years. Four weeks isn't going to make a whole lot of difference.
I think, like Donald Trump, some people are getting impatient because they see others able to lift restrictions and want to do so themselves, before their countries have reached the same levels of reduction in the disease. |
Trump is playing a much more cynical game. His focus is not on public health but being re-elected as President and he knows his chances depend on being able to reopen the economy.
It is going to get very messy stateside. |  | | |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:35 - May 7 with 1461 views | Bloots |
| Indeed, the media in this country..... on 10:05 - May 7 by gordon |
You are here claiming to be chief armchair scientist, in claiming to have the competence and knowledge to assess the validity of what millions of people are saying. |
….any reason why? |  |
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| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:37 - May 7 with 1470 views | gordon |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:35 - May 7 by Bloots |
….any reason why? |
I've no idea of your qualifications, but presume they must be impressive! |  | | |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:47 - May 7 with 1456 views | 26_Paz |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:37 - May 7 by gordon |
I've no idea of your qualifications, but presume they must be impressive! |
I think he just reads the news mate and sees the numbers falling rather than listening to the leftie luvvies who want to stay at home on furlough for the rest of their lives | |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 10:58 - May 7 with 1430 views | Guthrum |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 10:13 - May 7 by StokieBlue |
"schools to reopen June/July"
Doesn't seem much point in this, mid July is the summer holidays anyway. Also hugely difficult for parents - businesses are going to want people in work but there is nowhere for the kids to go so they can't possibly be in work.
"Social distancing rules highly likely to be in place until end of year at least."
Some people aren't respecting those rules now in many cases, no way they will hold until the end of the year in the cities. I saw a number of families in someones front garden drinking champagne two days ago, all well inside the distancing rules. They didn't seem to have a care in the world.
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On the schools thing, it is probably quite important for the pupils to get at least a little bit of this school year - from a psychological perspective.
One of my nieces has been quite badly affected by the interruption of an important year in her education. Plus there are those leavers who want closure on their time at primary or secondary school. Also a feeling of normality.
A couple of weeks could do a lot of good in that respect. Even if it meant pushing back the summer holidays a little bit. | |
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| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:59 - May 7 with 1428 views | footers |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:47 - May 7 by 26_Paz |
I think he just reads the news mate and sees the numbers falling rather than listening to the leftie luvvies who want to stay at home on furlough for the rest of their lives |
Do you think in anything other than moronic soundbites? It's not a case of right vs left, it's a fecking global pandemic. |  |
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| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 11:03 - May 7 with 1411 views | 26_Paz |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:59 - May 7 by footers |
Do you think in anything other than moronic soundbites? It's not a case of right vs left, it's a fecking global pandemic. |
There's just too many people enjoying this a bit too much for my liking ... | |
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| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 11:06 - May 7 with 1401 views | StokieBlue |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 11:03 - May 7 by 26_Paz |
There's just too many people enjoying this a bit too much for my liking ... |
There's just too many people taking this a little be too lightly for my liking....
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| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 11:09 - May 7 with 1392 views | footers |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 11:03 - May 7 by 26_Paz |
There's just too many people enjoying this a bit too much for my liking ... |
That may be your perception, but for every person 'enjoying' the lockdown, there'll be many more who are struggling to make ends meet on furlough, have lost their livelihoods or, worse yet, people they love. So try not to let a few people enjoying the sunshine annoy you too much. | |
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| Are you OK.....? on 11:40 - May 7 with 1364 views | Bloots |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:37 - May 7 by gordon |
I've no idea of your qualifications, but presume they must be impressive! |
….all I've said is that the figures show that deaths are falling and that we should still stay at home.
Calm yourself down sweetcheeks and wash your hands.
Lambert out. | |
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| Are you OK.....? on 11:54 - May 7 with 1356 views | gordon |
| Are you OK.....? on 11:40 - May 7 by Bloots |
….all I've said is that the figures show that deaths are falling and that we should still stay at home.
Calm yourself down sweetcheeks and wash your hands.
Lambert out. |
"we have millions of armchair scientists/analysts that think it's acceptable to join them in spouting untruths and increasing both public fear and public complacency." | | | |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 11:58 - May 7 with 1346 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:37 - May 7 by gordon |
I've no idea of your qualifications, but presume they must be impressive! |
This bloke's qualifications seem impressive and he's posting the same figures as Bloots.
Not sure why you are having a pop at bloots. |  |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 12:11 - May 7 with 1335 views | Funge |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 07:58 - May 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Hopefully not golf
Nothing against the sport and clearly it should logically be fine, I’ve just enjoyed being able to take the dogs over to Rushmere common for a long walk around the space without having to worry about flying golf balls! |
Reckon I've seen you out there Healers - some good mountain biking round there, back of Foxhall Stadium and the Nuffield etc etc.... |  | | |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 12:19 - May 7 with 1322 views | SpruceMoose |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 10:47 - May 7 by 26_Paz |
I think he just reads the news mate and sees the numbers falling rather than listening to the leftie luvvies who want to stay at home on furlough for the rest of their lives |
Man, you made two reasonable posts then you went straight back to being silly again. Shame. |  |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 12:54 - May 7 with 1286 views | bluelagos |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 09:43 - May 7 by WeWereZombies |
I think you were looking for the term Poisson distribution (how have I never wedged that into one of the threads that descended into fish puns?), possibly with the proviso that it has a positive skew.
https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2017/09/6-probability-distributions-data-sc
Also describes my energy levels when I go out cycling (which I did for almost two hours yesterday, perhaps I joined the Black Rebel Bicycle Club)? |
Yep, that's the one. My stats lecturer wouldn't be happy! | |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 12:56 - May 7 with 1283 views | Guthrum |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 09:43 - May 7 by WeWereZombies |
I think you were looking for the term Poisson distribution (how have I never wedged that into one of the threads that descended into fish puns?), possibly with the proviso that it has a positive skew.
https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2017/09/6-probability-distributions-data-sc
Also describes my energy levels when I go out cycling (which I did for almost two hours yesterday, perhaps I joined the Black Rebel Bicycle Club)? |
I thought poisson distribution was what Jesus did during the Feeding of the 5,000. | |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:01 - May 7 with 1275 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 08:06 - May 7 by bluelagos |
I'm not a golfer but struggling to see why it should be banned. The clubhouse is a different matter of course. |
Be superb to be able to get out and play some golf. |  | | |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:02 - May 7 with 1274 views | bluelagos |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 09:26 - May 7 by StokieBlue |
"Assumes of course that people socially distance correctly."
Which a lot won't. This will be seen as a free pass for people like NotSure to have their mates over and for groups of people to sit in the park drinking whilst being far closer than social distancing guidelines. They are already doing that and this will just loosen things even more. I do think you see the lockdown through a very rural view although that is understandable as that is where you live.
Perhaps there should be different rules for different areas?
I am slightly struggling to understand your attitude with regards to the lockdown though. One day you're all for easing the lockdown and another day you'll say perhaps the lockdown should have been stricter and forcefully imposed like in other countries.
I guess only time will tell if this is the right decision or not.
Enjoy your cycle, I haven't managed to get out for a few days now.
SB [Post edited 7 May 2020 9:27]
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Said before, little doubt my view is countryside biased, hold my hands up to that one.
As for my view on the lockdown - I guess it is a bit fluid, which is probably where it should be? i.e. It is based on what evidence I see / read rather than a fixed position based on any political views or agenda.
But overall - I am supportive of it, think it was clearly done too late, think elements are ridiculous (E.g. no fishing) whilst recognising it was put together in a hurry so that was inevitable, think it should broadly stay in place for at least another 3 weeks but think there should be relaxations of outdoor activities which I see as very low risk to transmission.
I also think it has been well observed (My countryside biased observation and govt/police evidence) and largely well policed (Not totally). And I think if there are problems with adherence to it, it should be enforced rather than having stricter rules put in place over all of us.
I also like the idea (was it Glassers?) of flexing it geographically based on the levels of virus rather than a one fits all lockdown. | |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:03 - May 7 with 1271 views | bluelagos |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 10:05 - May 7 by NewcyBlue |
My local Jaguar Owners Club meets at a golf club. I can’t quite bring myself to go.
Shame, as I have a dashboard for an X250 that I used for spares, that I need rid of. |
Don't do it Newcers. Ever. Gold w*nkers are the devils spawn. ;-) | |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:06 - May 7 with 1267 views | factual_blue |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 10:05 - May 7 by NewcyBlue |
My local Jaguar Owners Club meets at a golf club. I can’t quite bring myself to go.
Shame, as I have a dashboard for an X250 that I used for spares, that I need rid of. |
I'm sure fergalsharkey could fit it to his pedalo. |  |
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| Plus I actually said that..... on 13:07 - May 7 with 1265 views | Bloots |
| Pretty sure you've just made that up.... on 12:19 - May 7 by SpruceMoose |
Man, you made two reasonable posts then you went straight back to being silly again. Shame. |
….we should stay home.
This place has turned into even more of a nuthouse recently, I genuinely didn't think it was possible.
I yearn for the days when the main topics were whether Matt Richards was any good and who did the best Friday afternoon turd.
Lambert Out. | |
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| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:15 - May 7 with 1250 views | vilanovablue |
All the amateur statisticians on here is mind boggling with people quoting from multiple source which renders them meaningless.
What we do know is that we don't know. Based on the government figures cases are staying flat which or jumping around wildly which is largely how they are collated and also the fact more testing is happening.
What we do know is that we are in no position to track Covid19 accurately and contact tracing at this stage seems pretty far fetched we have no idea how near to finding the 18,000 people needed we are. We also have no idea whether the app will function properly.
PPE is still an issue and the news that the 400,000 pieces imported from Turkey (with much fanfare) are useless.
Talk of relaxing lockdown will just be some headline grabbing nonsense that might make things worse or might not. |  | | |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:22 - May 7 with 1243 views | gordon |
| Looks like picnics and sunbathing could be back on the agenda from Monday on 13:02 - May 7 by bluelagos |
Said before, little doubt my view is countryside biased, hold my hands up to that one.
As for my view on the lockdown - I guess it is a bit fluid, which is probably where it should be? i.e. It is based on what evidence I see / read rather than a fixed position based on any political views or agenda.
But overall - I am supportive of it, think it was clearly done too late, think elements are ridiculous (E.g. no fishing) whilst recognising it was put together in a hurry so that was inevitable, think it should broadly stay in place for at least another 3 weeks but think there should be relaxations of outdoor activities which I see as very low risk to transmission.
I also think it has been well observed (My countryside biased observation and govt/police evidence) and largely well policed (Not totally). And I think if there are problems with adherence to it, it should be enforced rather than having stricter rules put in place over all of us.
I also like the idea (was it Glassers?) of flexing it geographically based on the levels of virus rather than a one fits all lockdown. |
I'm in a smallish town in Perthshire and those are broadly my views - restrictions on outdoor exercise seem ridiculous here when the consequence is that instead of people driving 10/20 miles into the hills and walking / cycling / fishing / whatever without anyone around, people are instead constrained to paths near the town which as a consequence are way busier than normal.
There's loads of contradictions, but basically it needs to be done and it ought to be the same everywhere really, but local policing has by and large been sensible and adapted to local circumstance.
But any lifting of the restrictions without adequate contact tracing in place is potentially disastrous - I think there's a general view that the lockdown has 'beaten' COVID. It hasn't. It just bought us some time to get our infrastructure in place for the hard slog against COVID which will last a couple of years and basically starts when the lockdown is lifted. Time which we've largely wasted. | | | |
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