So, which statue are you going to protect? 23:30 - Jun 10 with 9377 views | syntaxerror | The DFLA (Football Lads Alliance (now with apparent added democracy) are going to be protecting statues this weekend, from the evil destroyers of old colonial white men's statues. So I am curious, what will members of the board protect? A question for the FLA (sorry DFLA) guys on here - can I protect the Mandela statue in Parliament square? |  | | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 09:56 - Jun 11 with 2925 views | Darth_Koont | More of this needed, I think. "Reclaiming" statues in the modern era. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:03 - Jun 11 with 2903 views | GeoffSentence |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 09:54 - Jun 11 by artsbossbeard | I've got the Giles Statue opposite Barclays Bank covered this Saturday. I tweeted my fellow patriots at Ipswich Conservatives asking for assistance but no reply as yet. Reckon they're busy. |
It would actually be great to organise a protective cordon for the Giles statue to mock the angry, white men protecting Churchill et al. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:04 - Jun 11 with 2897 views | jaykay |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 07:49 - Jun 11 by mikeybloo88 | Or just don't put any statues up ever again... there will always be some group which will get offended about someone about something and start crying. |
or put it another way ,put more statues up of slave traders otherwise some group that want them ,will start crying [Post edited 11 Jun 2020 14:09]
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:05 - Jun 11 with 2885 views | ElephantintheRoom |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 09:48 - Jun 11 by DanTheMan | The Colliseum is a ridiculous example, it isn't a monument to killing slaves. It is a building where that happened, but it doesn't celebrate that it did. It's historical importance Statues are there to honour the people of whom they portray. Pyramids are slightly more interesting given they were to honour the pharaohs, but again they are more important from a historical perspective. Also the idea they were built exclusively with slave labour is incorrect. Honestly, I'm not worried at all if people decide they no longer wish statues of people to be there. What exactly is the issue? |
Just up the hill from the plinth that once held Colston is the 'Wills Memorial Building' - a mighty edifice to honour the memory of a one Henry Wills. The fact that his family made its fortune from slavery and tobacco raised a few issues a few years back... but as far as I know its all been parked.... for now. Clearly that has to be demolished too.... unless you subscribe to the view that giving it a new name and airbrushing the family crest will do (for now). |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:15 - Jun 11 with 2858 views | BlueBadger |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:03 - Jun 11 by GeoffSentence | It would actually be great to organise a protective cordon for the Giles statue to mock the angry, white men protecting Churchill et al. |
My next door neighbour has got two bulldogs in terracotta outside her front door. I will totally be keeping them safe. [Post edited 11 Jun 2020 18:01]
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:39 - Jun 11 with 2800 views | mikeybloo88 |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 09:41 - Jun 11 by ElephantintheRoom | It's rather more crazy to shed crocodile tears now. Slavery is a long way from exclusively being a 'black lives matter' problem Do you want the Colliseum in Rome demolished because it is a monument to slaughtering slaves and perish the though, christians. Maybe christians do't matter though - especially the wrong sort of chrisitan. The pyramids - built by slaves - do they have to go too? When the right-on brigade start to poke a stick at Baden-Powell and Francis Drake by way of Cecil Rhodes you have to wonder where it will stop...or more worryingly IF it will stop |
Efforts might be better expended tackling the modern day slavery issues from which I expect most protesters benefit...cheap clothes, trainers, phones. Change the future, learn fom the past.. |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:41 - Jun 11 with 2795 views | factual_blue |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 07:55 - Jun 11 by gordon | Yes, I also support this idea, no more statues celebrating power, in any form. |
Kevin Beattie was a powerful player..... |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:43 - Jun 11 with 2786 views | Pinewoodblue |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:05 - Jun 11 by ElephantintheRoom | Just up the hill from the plinth that once held Colston is the 'Wills Memorial Building' - a mighty edifice to honour the memory of a one Henry Wills. The fact that his family made its fortune from slavery and tobacco raised a few issues a few years back... but as far as I know its all been parked.... for now. Clearly that has to be demolished too.... unless you subscribe to the view that giving it a new name and airbrushing the family crest will do (for now). |
Where will it all end? Changing the name of Waterloo station because it glorifies war, and might offend our French cousins. Banning people from South Stand if they refer to it as Churchmans. Never forget the Barbary slave trade and raids on South West England when locals were rounded up and taken as slaves and sold in Africa. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:45 - Jun 11 with 2784 views | factual_blue |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 09:54 - Jun 11 by artsbossbeard | I've got the Giles Statue opposite Barclays Bank covered this Saturday. I tweeted my fellow patriots at Ipswich Conservatives asking for assistance but no reply as yet. Reckon they're busy. |
You should try norwich conservatives, as Carl Giles married his first cousin. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:45 - Jun 11 with 2783 views | solemio |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 09:23 - Jun 11 by factual_blue | I'm torn - either Eric Morecambe (in....errr....Morecambe) or Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens. |
I love that statue on the sea front at Morecambe. I remain amazed that no statue of Eric has been commissioned for Harpenden. Oh no, I suppose they're too posh there to have a statue of a comedian/comic actor. |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:48 - Jun 11 with 2779 views | factual_blue | I hope they're remembering to protect Captain Mainwaring in Thetford. And, while they're at it, the nearby statue of Duleep Singh. And Tom Paine, obviously. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:49 - Jun 11 with 2775 views | KrakenBlue |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:05 - Jun 11 by ElephantintheRoom | Just up the hill from the plinth that once held Colston is the 'Wills Memorial Building' - a mighty edifice to honour the memory of a one Henry Wills. The fact that his family made its fortune from slavery and tobacco raised a few issues a few years back... but as far as I know its all been parked.... for now. Clearly that has to be demolished too.... unless you subscribe to the view that giving it a new name and airbrushing the family crest will do (for now). |
Are you honestly so dense that you can't differentiate between buildings built with slave money/by slaves and a statue in the center of a city of a slave trader? I don't post often though so this might just be your schtick |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:50 - Jun 11 with 2768 views | footers |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:49 - Jun 11 by KrakenBlue | Are you honestly so dense that you can't differentiate between buildings built with slave money/by slaves and a statue in the center of a city of a slave trader? I don't post often though so this might just be your schtick |
Don't worry, he doesn't actually believe it. It's just some sort of hobby of his. God knows why, but it is. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:00 - Jun 11 with 2739 views | jontysnut | There's just one more thing...a statue of Columbo in Budapest? |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:01 - Jun 11 with 2736 views | ElephantintheRoom |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:49 - Jun 11 by KrakenBlue | Are you honestly so dense that you can't differentiate between buildings built with slave money/by slaves and a statue in the center of a city of a slave trader? I don't post often though so this might just be your schtick |
I guess I am - both are memorials to slave traders and people who profited from the slave trade within a few hundred yards of each other. Both have been targets of right on air brushers in the past. One is a building - quite a big one - and the other is a bronze statue - some would say a work of art. In reality you are pretty dense if you cant see the connection to where giving in to mob rule about a memorial (which just happens to be a statue) few really care about and blindly following to where right-on attitudes might lead. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:06 - Jun 11 with 2712 views | Darth_Koont |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:01 - Jun 11 by ElephantintheRoom | I guess I am - both are memorials to slave traders and people who profited from the slave trade within a few hundred yards of each other. Both have been targets of right on air brushers in the past. One is a building - quite a big one - and the other is a bronze statue - some would say a work of art. In reality you are pretty dense if you cant see the connection to where giving in to mob rule about a memorial (which just happens to be a statue) few really care about and blindly following to where right-on attitudes might lead. |
It seems to be leading to absurd posturing. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:08 - Jun 11 with 2698 views | vapour_trail |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:39 - Jun 11 by mikeybloo88 | Efforts might be better expended tackling the modern day slavery issues from which I expect most protesters benefit...cheap clothes, trainers, phones. Change the future, learn fom the past.. |
The point about modern slavery is valid, but they’re not mutually exclusive (as you well know). |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:20 - Jun 11 with 2670 views | KrakenBlue |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:01 - Jun 11 by ElephantintheRoom | I guess I am - both are memorials to slave traders and people who profited from the slave trade within a few hundred yards of each other. Both have been targets of right on air brushers in the past. One is a building - quite a big one - and the other is a bronze statue - some would say a work of art. In reality you are pretty dense if you cant see the connection to where giving in to mob rule about a memorial (which just happens to be a statue) few really care about and blindly following to where right-on attitudes might lead. |
So you honestly think these 'right on attitudes' will lead to mobs razing of cities like Bristol because the majority of it was built on the back of the slave trade? Sounds hyperbolic It could just be that people were sick of walking next to a statue of a man that viewed them as subhuman, a man that would have happily put them in chains and flogged them off to the highest bidder. Imagine that. |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:28 - Jun 11 with 2650 views | leitrimblue | They better not touch the Greyfriars Bobby statue. Love that little doggy |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:34 - Jun 11 with 2615 views | Ewan_Oozami |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:00 - Jun 11 by jontysnut | There's just one more thing...a statue of Columbo in Budapest? |
Falk's mother's family come from Hungary, some lived in Budapest I believe... |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:40 - Jun 11 with 2599 views | gordon |
That's how you do statues. |  | |  |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:53 - Jun 11 with 2570 views | flimflam |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 10:43 - Jun 11 by Pinewoodblue | Where will it all end? Changing the name of Waterloo station because it glorifies war, and might offend our French cousins. Banning people from South Stand if they refer to it as Churchmans. Never forget the Barbary slave trade and raids on South West England when locals were rounded up and taken as slaves and sold in Africa. |
You think people would be interested in the Corsairs and the million + white Christians taken and enslaved in North African countries. Wrong forum. |  |
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So, which statue are you going to protect? on 12:05 - Jun 11 with 2553 views | Oldsmoker |
So, which statue are you going to protect? on 11:20 - Jun 11 by KrakenBlue | So you honestly think these 'right on attitudes' will lead to mobs razing of cities like Bristol because the majority of it was built on the back of the slave trade? Sounds hyperbolic It could just be that people were sick of walking next to a statue of a man that viewed them as subhuman, a man that would have happily put them in chains and flogged them off to the highest bidder. Imagine that. |
It was exactly as you said it. People - not just black - were fed up of hearing about all the good deeds he did for Bristol and having the Slavery history shouted down. I moved to Bristol in the late '80's and the issue of renaming Colston Hall and removing the statue was being talked about. 30 years and only vague promises to think about it. Colston Hall was given a new front and everyone said here's a chance to give it a new name. But no. They spent money on erecting the current name in very large letters. The most vocal supporter of Colston is a Tory councillor called Richard Eddy. https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/09/edward-colston-was-hero-says-golliwog-loving-bris |  |
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