| Respect for Marcus Rashford 10:14 - Jun 16 with 13515 views | usm |
Seems a nice, genuine fella, making very good points - I wish him and his causes well.
Just a couple of things - we do not know the circumstances but I wonder why his mum had 5 children that she could not afford, surely she'd have worked out after 2 or 3 that she couldn't afford any more. Many of us stopped having kids when we worked out how difficult it would be to bring them all up.
The other thing - he tweeted about people having their water disconnected - but apparently that is impossible.
As I said I wish him well, but these two things just jumped out at me. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:11 - Jun 17 with 2022 views | giant_stow |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:09 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I think I specifically said I didn't want to leave starving kids to starve. I'll state my point again. The government has already made provision for these kids not to starve by paying their parents benefits and furlough payments hence I don't see why they need free school meals this summer more than any other summer |
Lots of people havent been covered by furlough and the upshot of what you're saying (in the real world) is you're in favour of a policy that would indeed leave starving kids to starve. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:11 - Jun 17 with 2020 views | SpruceMoose |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:09 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I think I specifically said I didn't want to leave starving kids to starve. I'll state my point again. The government has already made provision for these kids not to starve by paying their parents benefits and furlough payments hence I don't see why they need free school meals this summer more than any other summer |
That you don't see why only speaks to your utter developmental failure in becoming an empathetic and decent human being.
Personally, I blame the parents. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:15 - Jun 17 with 1994 views | 26_Paz |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:11 - Jun 17 by giant_stow |
Lots of people havent been covered by furlough and the upshot of what you're saying (in the real world) is you're in favour of a policy that would indeed leave starving kids to starve. |
You're (not just you, the others as well) not listening so I'm not going to bother. Good day to you all. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:17 - Jun 17 with 1989 views | Dubtractor |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:15 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
You're (not just you, the others as well) not listening so I'm not going to bother. Good day to you all. |
Fair play, you're staying polite against a lot of stick here, but how you can't see the point here is pretty staggering. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:17 - Jun 17 with 1989 views | footers |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 14:38 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
Its none of your business what I do.
I own my own place and have never claimed any form of benefits. |
Telescopic dampers or rigid stays? |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:20 - Jun 17 with 1981 views | SpruceMoose |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:17 - Jun 17 by Dubtractor |
Fair play, you're staying polite against a lot of stick here, but how you can't see the point here is pretty staggering. |
You're a better man than me Dubbers. I'm sick of politeness being used as a fig leaf to provide cover for ugly beliefs and ideologies though.
"Look how reasonable I am! I'm being polite!"
Yes, but what you think and believe is the offensive thing here. [Post edited 17 Jun 2020 15:22]
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:20 - Jun 17 with 1982 views | giant_stow |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:15 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
You're (not just you, the others as well) not listening so I'm not going to bother. Good day to you all. |
I'm listenning, but disagreeing. You're right to be concerned about the future cost of all this state support, but you're completely wrong about where/when to make cuts and how much difference not spending this money would make. [Post edited 17 Jun 2020 15:21]
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:22 - Jun 17 with 1972 views | CoachRob |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:09 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I think I specifically said I didn't want to leave starving kids to starve. I'll state my point again. The government has already made provision for these kids not to starve by paying their parents benefits and furlough payments hence I don't see why they need free school meals this summer more than any other summer |
That doesn't make sense - if the government is providing free meals, it is because it believes the assistance it is giving via benefits is not adequate enough. You are thinking like an economist, 'ceteris paribus' but evidently things are not the same.
Maybe try getting off those alt-right sites and join us 'lefty' scientists trying to make sense of the world. |  | | |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:28 - Jun 17 with 1950 views | Darth_Koont |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 14:43 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
These forecasts will be wrong. I accept it will cost in the short and medium term but in 50 years from now I guarantee we'll be glad we left |
50 years from now we'll be in an even bigger international trade and regulatory bloc. I guarantee it.
And probably the original EU at its core. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:35 - Jun 17 with 1939 views | Herbivore |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:10 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I am not scum. I just have a different view to you on the role of the state. |
No, you're definitely scum. Only scum would be upset about vulnerable kids being given money for food. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:42 - Jun 17 with 1925 views | 26_Paz |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:35 - Jun 17 by Herbivore |
No, you're definitely scum. Only scum would be upset about vulnerable kids being given money for food. |
I wouldn't say I was upset. I'm also not saying exactly what you say i am saying.
I'm saying the hungry kids you are referring to are already being given money for food so there is no need to continue providing free school meals through the summer. | |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:52 - Jun 17 with 1916 views | jeera |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:42 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I wouldn't say I was upset. I'm also not saying exactly what you say i am saying.
I'm saying the hungry kids you are referring to are already being given money for food so there is no need to continue providing free school meals through the summer. |
Your views are so simplistic it's hardly surprising you expected 'more' from Johnson.
What you were expecting is anyone's guess as many on here spent months telling you otherwise.
Still, you have the arrogance to think you are making some point, despite getting it so wrong so often.
Several posters have explained to you, as usual. And as usual, not a single word has registered. [Post edited 17 Jun 2020 16:01]
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:54 - Jun 17 with 1907 views | SpruceMoose |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:42 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I wouldn't say I was upset. I'm also not saying exactly what you say i am saying.
I'm saying the hungry kids you are referring to are already being given money for food so there is no need to continue providing free school meals through the summer. |
Girl, you basic.
No wonder you got a stiffy for Brexit. | |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 16:01 - Jun 17 with 1878 views | eastangliaisblue |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 14:40 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
Exiting the EU will save us money in the long term |
To think, this is not even your most ridiculous post on this thread, says a lot! |  | | |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 16:41 - Jun 17 with 1829 views | Ryorry |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 14:35 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I'm not saying this because I want to see children starving in the street. I'm saying this because the country is facing what will probably be the biggest economic crisis ever. I think providing these families with this money is doubling counting (i.e. they already get furlough or benefits money). Over the coming years we're going to learn that governments only have finite amounts of money, things like this is going to mean the coming cuts and tax rises bite even harder than is necessary. |
OK, so since having a moral compass seems to be beyond you, try looking at it from the only point of view you seem to understand - balance sheets.
So - you shell out £120 million to feed 1.3 million (approx) kids a better diet than their parents would otherwise be able to afford. As one youngster on last night's 10pm TV news rather eloquently pointed out, that means he can eat at least one meal daily that will properly fill him up with good quality, slow burn food that will keep him going so he's not reaching for cheap junk food such as crisps or biscuits every hour.
That means he & the others are more likely to grow up healthier, be less of a strain on the NHS - less likely to have to attend GP's surgeries, obesity clinics, stroke clinics, undergo heart surgery etc etc. It also means that when they enter work as adults, they're more likely to be putting in more working days & generally contributing to the economy, rather than having days off & claiming SSP. I'm pretty damn sure that'would save a helluva lot more money overall than the comparatively slim cost of providing these kids with decent food during the hols |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 16:49 - Jun 17 with 1814 views | Herbivore |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:42 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I wouldn't say I was upset. I'm also not saying exactly what you say i am saying.
I'm saying the hungry kids you are referring to are already being given money for food so there is no need to continue providing free school meals through the summer. |
What you're saying is a load of b0llocks though. [Post edited 17 Jun 2020 16:50]
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 17:57 - Jun 17 with 1761 views | eireblue |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:10 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I am not scum. I just have a different view to you on the role of the state. |
Having a different view, is not of itself, something that is worthy of respect.
Anybody can of course have a view that is scum worthy. |  | | |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 18:00 - Jun 17 with 1755 views | Darth_Koont |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 17:57 - Jun 17 by eireblue |
Having a different view, is not of itself, something that is worthy of respect.
Anybody can of course have a view that is scum worthy. |
Indeed.
Norwich are different. Hitler was different. Jive Bunny was different. | |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 18:00 - Jun 17 with 1754 views | eireblue |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:42 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I wouldn't say I was upset. I'm also not saying exactly what you say i am saying.
I'm saying the hungry kids you are referring to are already being given money for food so there is no need to continue providing free school meals through the summer. |
Things must have changed.
In the past the Government never gave kids money.
Ii used to be similar to the NHS, the Government doesn’t give you money to get an operation, you just get an operation.
So do kids have to have a bank account, or do they get cash? | | | |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 18:32 - Jun 17 with 1733 views | mrshallisfit |
Yea - I'm sure those two things did jump out at you. Those two things above all else. Shows quite clearly your view of the world. I bet when you saw the policeman compressing down onto a black mans neck your first thought was - bet he had been selling drugs or causing an affray. Oh well, it takes all sorts I suppose. |  | | |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 18:34 - Jun 17 with 1730 views | mrshallisfit |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:42 - Jun 17 by 26_Paz |
I wouldn't say I was upset. I'm also not saying exactly what you say i am saying.
I'm saying the hungry kids you are referring to are already being given money for food so there is no need to continue providing free school meals through the summer. |
Perhaps just a little upset though. Just a little.... | | | |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 20:43 - Jun 17 with 1697 views | vapour_trail |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 15:17 - Jun 17 by Dubtractor |
Fair play, you're staying polite against a lot of stick here, but how you can't see the point here is pretty staggering. |
Agree with this.
It’s put me off sharing my views with the boy Paz, who I agree is pretty off point. The pile on vitriol is all a bit offputting. |  |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 20:44 - Jun 17 with 1695 views | jeera |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 20:43 - Jun 17 by vapour_trail |
Agree with this.
It’s put me off sharing my views with the boy Paz, who I agree is pretty off point. The pile on vitriol is all a bit offputting. |
He loves it. | |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 20:52 - Jun 17 with 1684 views | Herbivore |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 20:43 - Jun 17 by vapour_trail |
Agree with this.
It’s put me off sharing my views with the boy Paz, who I agree is pretty off point. The pile on vitriol is all a bit offputting. |
Thoroughly warranted. | |
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| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 21:09 - Jun 17 with 1657 views | 26_Paz |
| Respect for Marcus Rashford on 20:44 - Jun 17 by jeera |
He loves it. |
I’m not going to be crying myself to sleep if that’s what you mean.
I know what’s coming when I post my views on here, if it upset me I’d just delete my account. As I’ve stated before I think that being aware that alternative views do exist doesn’t do some of you lot any harm... | |
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