| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday 22:39 - Sep 21 with 5746 views | ElderGrizzly |
Lets hope the virus has its watch working...
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 22:45 - Sep 21 with 2921 views | EastTownBlue |
Table service only. Pubs will suffer greater hardship once people want to avoid sitting outside. |  | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 22:50 - Sep 21 with 2906 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 22:45 - Sep 21 by EastTownBlue |
Table service only. Pubs will suffer greater hardship once people want to avoid sitting outside. |
Whitty/Vallance wanted a 2 week closure now.
Johnson has ignored his medical advisors again | | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 22:58 - Sep 21 with 2877 views | pointofblue |
I can’t imagine he’s holding a nationwide speech just to say the pubs are shutting early though. I assume there’s going to be a ban on households mixing, possibly only allowed to pubs with those you live with/in the social bubble? | |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 23:02 - Sep 21 with 2844 views | vapour_trail |
People are just going to get on the lash wary aren’t they. |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 23:09 - Sep 21 with 2830 views | Coastalblue |
You mean we're back to winter hours? |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 23:54 - Sep 21 with 2760 views | HARRY10 |
this was.......... posted earlier
do keep up old chap | | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:29 - Sep 22 with 2608 views | TractorWood |
Straight from the random policy generator. No hint of irony having encouraged everyone in the UK to return to pubs and restaurants in their masses last month from eat out to save Pret or whatever it was called.
I suspect his speech tonight will be vintage Tory condescending belligerence but contain very little substance with the added dilemma of this situation being entirely their fault. |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:35 - Sep 22 with 2592 views | 26_Paz |
Absolutely ridiculous. Firstly, not warranted and secondly, actually counter productive as will fuel rise in house parties |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:37 - Sep 22 with 2582 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:29 - Sep 22 by TractorWood |
Straight from the random policy generator. No hint of irony having encouraged everyone in the UK to return to pubs and restaurants in their masses last month from eat out to save Pret or whatever it was called.
I suspect his speech tonight will be vintage Tory condescending belligerence but contain very little substance with the added dilemma of this situation being entirely their fault. |
Oh and they are telling people to work from home again this morning, after weeks of telling us ‘slackers’ to get back to the office 🙄 | | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:51 - Sep 22 with 2542 views | Herbivore |
Everywhere I've been to has been table service only and most places have been closing at 10am anyway as well. I'm not sure how this is going to make any real difference. Either close the pubs temporarily if there's good evidence they are contributing to cases rising or target measures elsewhere. This feels incredibly lazy and half-arsed, so rather apt for our PM. |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:00 - Sep 22 with 2520 views | gordon |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 22:58 - Sep 21 by pointofblue |
I can’t imagine he’s holding a nationwide speech just to say the pubs are shutting early though. I assume there’s going to be a ban on households mixing, possibly only allowed to pubs with those you live with/in the social bubble? |
There'll be a lot of threatening us to behave ourselves and stop spreading that bl**dy virus cos to be honest this is not what Boris signed up for and he's getting pretty fed up with us now. |  | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:05 - Sep 22 with 2512 views | mikeybloo88 |
It's not about how long people are in pubs, it's what they do when they're in there. Many pubs and restaurants have had booking systems, table service, one way systems, nod excellent sanitising methods....and many customers have observed the rules and hence socialised safely. Unfortunately, some pubs have been less well managed and either not put proper measures in place or clamped down on customers ignoring the rules. These places need to be identified and closed down. Also, the many idiots who think the only way to have a good night out is to have 7 pints and forget all social distancing have brought this on too and it's pretty obvious that in a few weeks no one will have a pub or restaurant to go to. The mindless drinking morons will see to that... |  | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:21 - Sep 22 with 2496 views | Guthrum |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:35 - Sep 22 by 26_Paz |
Absolutely ridiculous. Firstly, not warranted and secondly, actually counter productive as will fuel rise in house parties |
Only by people whose selfish sense of entitlement exceeds any feelings of public responsibility. |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:26 - Sep 22 with 2478 views | Dubtractor |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:05 - Sep 22 by mikeybloo88 |
It's not about how long people are in pubs, it's what they do when they're in there. Many pubs and restaurants have had booking systems, table service, one way systems, nod excellent sanitising methods....and many customers have observed the rules and hence socialised safely. Unfortunately, some pubs have been less well managed and either not put proper measures in place or clamped down on customers ignoring the rules. These places need to be identified and closed down. Also, the many idiots who think the only way to have a good night out is to have 7 pints and forget all social distancing have brought this on too and it's pretty obvious that in a few weeks no one will have a pub or restaurant to go to. The mindless drinking morons will see to that... |
Thing is though, you, me and every other poster on here knew that letting people back into pubs would end up with this problem. So why did the government do it when surely they knew too?
We'll no doubt hear some familiar line today about how they couldn't have foreseen that people would get drunk and ignore social distancing and it is the public's fault.
We all know that huge sections of our population are selfish/ dumb/ idiots so let's not act surprised when they confirm it. |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:29 - Sep 22 with 2468 views | pointofblue |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:26 - Sep 22 by Dubtractor |
Thing is though, you, me and every other poster on here knew that letting people back into pubs would end up with this problem. So why did the government do it when surely they knew too?
We'll no doubt hear some familiar line today about how they couldn't have foreseen that people would get drunk and ignore social distancing and it is the public's fault.
We all know that huge sections of our population are selfish/ dumb/ idiots so let's not act surprised when they confirm it. |
The economy combined with concerns surrounding mental health. If it wasn’t for either we’d still be in total lockdown excluding maybe schools, as would the rest of the world. | |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:31 - Sep 22 with 2467 views | itfcjoe |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:51 - Sep 22 by Herbivore |
Everywhere I've been to has been table service only and most places have been closing at 10am anyway as well. I'm not sure how this is going to make any real difference. Either close the pubs temporarily if there's good evidence they are contributing to cases rising or target measures elsewhere. This feels incredibly lazy and half-arsed, so rather apt for our PM. |
I can get the logic to an extent, taking away an hour or more of drinking time and getting people out earlier will help - because most who stay in the pub until 10 would stay there until closing and be more drunk by the time they go, which doesn't help anything.
Tough balance to strike, but brings some of the worse performing pubs back into line in an easier way than trying to enforce legislation with more grey areas in and not enough people to do so |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:45 - Sep 22 with 2430 views | Herbivore |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:31 - Sep 22 by itfcjoe |
I can get the logic to an extent, taking away an hour or more of drinking time and getting people out earlier will help - because most who stay in the pub until 10 would stay there until closing and be more drunk by the time they go, which doesn't help anything.
Tough balance to strike, but brings some of the worse performing pubs back into line in an easier way than trying to enforce legislation with more grey areas in and not enough people to do so |
It also means that everywhere is kicking out at the same time, so in areas with a number of pubs you'll have hundreds of people spilling out on to the streets at the same time. I'm struggling to see how it helps much to be honest. People who want to get drunk over everything else will just drink quicker or get the mates back home with them at the earlier kicking out time. If they've pinpointed pubs as areas that are causing the spike then close them for a couple of weeks, at least in the areas that are in local lockdown. It's not ideal but it might at least have an impact. [Post edited 22 Sep 2020 8:49]
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:47 - Sep 22 with 2427 views | itfcjoe |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:45 - Sep 22 by Herbivore |
It also means that everywhere is kicking out at the same time, so in areas with a number of pubs you'll have hundreds of people spilling out on to the streets at the same time. I'm struggling to see how it helps much to be honest. People who want to get drunk over everything else will just drink quicker or get the mates back home with them at the earlier kicking out time. If they've pinpointed pubs as areas that are causing the spike then close them for a couple of weeks, at least in the areas that are in local lockdown. It's not ideal but it might at least have an impact. [Post edited 22 Sep 2020 8:49]
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People who want to get drunk over everything else will just drink quicker or get the mates back home with them at the earlier kicking out time.
I just don't think this is the case, pubs are social gatherings, those that want to get drunk above all else won't want to pay pub prices, those that go their want the company. It just slows things down. | |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:50 - Sep 22 with 2415 views | Herbivore |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:47 - Sep 22 by itfcjoe |
People who want to get drunk over everything else will just drink quicker or get the mates back home with them at the earlier kicking out time.
I just don't think this is the case, pubs are social gatherings, those that want to get drunk above all else won't want to pay pub prices, those that go their want the company. It just slows things down. |
Disagree. I don't think it'll make a jot of difference. | |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:56 - Sep 22 with 2411 views | peterleeblue |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 07:35 - Sep 22 by 26_Paz |
Absolutely ridiculous. Firstly, not warranted and secondly, actually counter productive as will fuel rise in house parties |
Ill bring the up down to parity.
This pick on pubs is really annoying me know. My tenants and I have worked tirelessly to be COVID safe and still create an enjoyable and relaxing environment.
Sunak had better be about to support the industry. |  | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 09:12 - Sep 22 with 2383 views | Guthrum |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:56 - Sep 22 by peterleeblue |
Ill bring the up down to parity.
This pick on pubs is really annoying me know. My tenants and I have worked tirelessly to be COVID safe and still create an enjoyable and relaxing environment.
Sunak had better be about to support the industry. |
The pubs themselves cannot really be blamed for this. All the ones I've come across* have taken extensive (and often not cost-free) measures to keep things as safe as possible, while still trying to make enough money to survive.
* Tho I've not, to be fair, tried going out on a Saturday night. | |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 09:18 - Sep 22 with 2377 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:50 - Sep 22 by Herbivore |
Disagree. I don't think it'll make a jot of difference. |
Indeed. I don't see what difference it'll make. If someone's in a pub and has Covid, what difference does it make if he leaves at 10 or 11? If he's spread it, he's spread it. |  |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 09:21 - Sep 22 with 2371 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 22:50 - Sep 21 by ElderGrizzly |
Whitty/Vallance wanted a 2 week closure now.
Johnson has ignored his medical advisors again |
Closing them completely would really have to be the beginning of another complete lock down though - which is not going to happen.
You'd have to also close markets, local non-league grounds, tighten up on people unnecessarily going into offices, stop general mixing between households etc. All of which are equally 'risky'. | | | |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 09:23 - Sep 22 with 2368 views | Herbivore |
| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 08:56 - Sep 22 by peterleeblue |
Ill bring the up down to parity.
This pick on pubs is really annoying me know. My tenants and I have worked tirelessly to be COVID safe and still create an enjoyable and relaxing environment.
Sunak had better be about to support the industry. |
It's not picking on pubs though is it. The way the virus spreads means they are particularly risky places, lots of people indoors at the same time. Even where pubs are doing what they can you'll still find some people not following the guidelines properly. I love the pub but it's very clearly a place that carries risk and pubs are not essential so if there needs to be something done to try and stem the rise in cases then pubs are of course an area where measures can be taken. | |
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| Pubs to shut by 10pm from Thursday on 09:25 - Sep 22 with 2359 views | Ace_High1 |
Seems another half arsed announcement which really has little effect.
As others have said if they have identified pubs as an area of concern then close them completely for two weeks and go from there.
Saying close at a certain time is pointless and just a restriction for the sake of it so they can be seen to be doing something. |  | | |
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