| This Free School Meals debate 18:53 - Oct 21 with 20410 views | tractordownsouth |
I've just seen the clips from Twitter as I don't have a licence to watch on Iplayer but bloody hell, these heartless individuals... They're all preaching personal responsibility, while voting for a policy that will ensure whether or not kids eat is determined by their parents income, which they have no control over.
First we have Brendan Clarke Smith accusing those wanting to feed kids of "virtue signalling." He's the same bloke who was caught denying the scale of food banks during his election hustings.
And Kieran Mullen, claiming that it's not the state's job to feed kids.
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:02 - Oct 24 with 421 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:00 - Oct 24 by Herbivore |
You're on the left?  |
Maybe he’s just a genuine socialist (the type I have a lot of respect for) rather than a complete radical leftist nonsensical moron ... |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:03 - Oct 24 with 430 views | jeera |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:59 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
I'm on the left, am in absolute 100% support of Marcus Rashford and would have voted against the government on the commons vote if i had one.
But I don't need to call every opinion i disagree with "trolling" and abuse my opponents. Perhaps the wokists should take a leaf out of Rashford's book - he has not made any references to politics, nor any mention of race in relation to the children. He just purely wants children fed and i feel absolute, shiver down the spine, pride in that man. |
You'd be right if it were simple disagreements.
But this is every day of the week on every subject going where the contrary view is aired regardless of context pretty much for the sake of it.
It is trolling, not a mere difference of opinion. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:03 - Oct 24 with 430 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:59 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
I'm on the left, am in absolute 100% support of Marcus Rashford and would have voted against the government on the commons vote if i had one.
But I don't need to call every opinion i disagree with "trolling" and abuse my opponents. Perhaps the wokists should take a leaf out of Rashford's book - he has not made any references to politics, nor any mention of race in relation to the children. He just purely wants children fed and i feel absolute, shiver down the spine, pride in that man. |
No reference to politics? You what?!
Are we just supposed to ignore reality then, because it's pretty obvious which party, and which party's supporters are against this.
And 'wokists'? Good God. I eye rolled so hard I saw Narnia. You should drop from your vocabulary pronto. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:04 - Oct 24 with 423 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:00 - Oct 24 by Herbivore |
You're on the left? |
I didn't have the energy to even touch that bizarre claim. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:04 - Oct 24 with 423 views | eireblue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:48 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
You didn't see the reply that was deleted. |
Maybe not.
But the principle is that Paz doesn’t think it is possible for certain groups to define things that they find abusive.
Not entirely sure why he thinks he can define what he finds abusive.
Seems a somewhat hypocritical and/or privileged position to hold.
Maybe he is just a victim of group-think, and the poor guy just can’t understand the context. |  | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:04 - Oct 24 with 410 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:03 - Oct 24 by jeera |
You'd be right if it were simple disagreements.
But this is every day of the week on every subject going where the contrary view is aired regardless of context pretty much for the sake of it.
It is trolling, not a mere difference of opinion. |
You’ve just stated that the contrary view is trolling. Seriously mate, wake up. There are people who hold the contrary view. That’s not trolling, that’s real life. Deal with it. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:05 - Oct 24 with 418 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:02 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Maybe he’s just a genuine socialist (the type I have a lot of respect for) rather than a complete radical leftist nonsensical moron ... |
Oh please, please Paz, I'd love to hear more about your thoughts on socialism! | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:05 - Oct 24 with 417 views | Herbivore |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:02 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Maybe he’s just a genuine socialist (the type I have a lot of respect for) rather than a complete radical leftist nonsensical moron ... |
You're an embarrassment. You've spent your Saturday night trolling people who care about kids not going hungry on a football forum. The absolute state of you. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:05 - Oct 24 with 417 views | jeera |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:03 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
No reference to politics? You what?!
Are we just supposed to ignore reality then, because it's pretty obvious which party, and which party's supporters are against this.
And 'wokists'? Good God. I eye rolled so hard I saw Narnia. You should drop from your vocabulary pronto. |
It's the same cliches all the time now.
I wonder what words these people were relying on before. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:07 - Oct 24 with 408 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:05 - Oct 24 by Herbivore |
You're an embarrassment. You've spent your Saturday night trolling people who care about kids not going hungry on a football forum. The absolute state of you. |
And that's why I reported those posts for abuse. It's obvious he's either an awful person or a troll. Either way Phil should consider removal. We've had people given the boot for far less. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:08 - Oct 24 with 396 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:05 - Oct 24 by Herbivore |
You're an embarrassment. You've spent your Saturday night trolling people who care about kids not going hungry on a football forum. The absolute state of you. |
And what have you done? | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:08 - Oct 24 with 406 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:05 - Oct 24 by jeera |
It's the same cliches all the time now.
I wonder what words these people were relying on before. |
Being able to be openly racist and discriminatory without any pushback?
I dunno. He'd have been calling us stinking hippes a few decades a go. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:09 - Oct 24 with 406 views | Trequartista |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:03 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
No reference to politics? You what?!
Are we just supposed to ignore reality then, because it's pretty obvious which party, and which party's supporters are against this.
And 'wokists'? Good God. I eye rolled so hard I saw Narnia. You should drop from your vocabulary pronto. |
Yes i've read his tweets and he takes each opinion as it comes. In fact when the vote showed nearly all the Conservative party voted against his proposals, and Labour in favour it must have been quite tempting to get dragged in, but he didn't.
I think by doing that he has probably had more effect on public opinion going against the Conservatives, than if he'd have started tweeting about Tory scum or suchlike. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:10 - Oct 24 with 401 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:08 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
And what have you done? |
At the bare minimum, spent Saturday night not trolling people who care about kids going hungry on a football forum.
Which is a 1000% improvement on you. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:11 - Oct 24 with 385 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:08 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
Being able to be openly racist and discriminatory without any pushback?
I dunno. He'd have been calling us stinking hippes a few decades a go. |
I’m sorry, sir, but nobody on here has done any such thing. You are looking for issues where they don’t exist so that you can make your self look good. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:12 - Oct 24 with 390 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:09 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
Yes i've read his tweets and he takes each opinion as it comes. In fact when the vote showed nearly all the Conservative party voted against his proposals, and Labour in favour it must have been quite tempting to get dragged in, but he didn't.
I think by doing that he has probably had more effect on public opinion going against the Conservatives, than if he'd have started tweeting about Tory scum or suchlike. |
You're right. The real issue here is making sure the Conservatives don't get the blame. Let's not call it what it is incase we upset Conservatives and make them possibly, just for one second, feel bad about it and still not help hungry kids anyway. Got it. Thanks for that balanced contribution. [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:17]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:16 - Oct 24 with 374 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:11 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
I’m sorry, sir, but nobody on here has done any such thing. You are looking for issues where they don’t exist so that you can make your self look good. |
You have, but in a sneaky snide way.
I don't need to make myself look good. I am good. What people like you forget is that for most people it's easier to actually be decent than it is to role play at it. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:19 - Oct 24 with 364 views | Trequartista |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:07 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
And that's why I reported those posts for abuse. It's obvious he's either an awful person or a troll. Either way Phil should consider removal. We've had people given the boot for far less. |
Like calling people a f***** c*** before it was swiftly removed? I'd worry about your own status before trying to get people removed for having a different opinion. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:22 - Oct 24 with 360 views | Trequartista |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:12 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
You're right. The real issue here is making sure the Conservatives don't get the blame. Let's not call it what it is incase we upset Conservatives and make them possibly, just for one second, feel bad about it and still not help hungry kids anyway. Got it. Thanks for that balanced contribution. [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:17]
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Totally nonplussed, can only assume you're not reading what i'm writing | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:22 - Oct 24 with 354 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:19 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
Like calling people a f***** c*** before it was swiftly removed? I'd worry about your own status before trying to get people removed for having a different opinion. |
Mate, you’re playing a losing game. Some seem to have free reign on here. That’s just the way it is. I get f’d at pretty much as standard, I get called ‘scum’, ‘piece of sh1t’ almost every day. That’s how it goes. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:24 - Oct 24 with 358 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:19 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
Like calling people a f***** c*** before it was swiftly removed? I'd worry about your own status before trying to get people removed for having a different opinion. |
Fairly confident that most people would agree with that description of racist homophobes.
If you feel differently, well, that's on you. I don't really care what you think mind you, as I've never seen you on the right side of any argument on here. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:26 - Oct 24 with 348 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:24 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
Fairly confident that most people would agree with that description of racist homophobes.
If you feel differently, well, that's on you. I don't really care what you think mind you, as I've never seen you on the right side of any argument on here. |
I feel for you. You’re just not mature enough to have a political debate. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:27 - Oct 24 with 350 views | J2BLUE |
| This Free School Meals debate on 20:50 - Oct 24 by SidVicious |
There are no restrictions on what the vouchers can be used for - fact |
Who cares? You've given one example. Even if we give you the benefit of the doubt and believe the story the fact is 136 kids could potentially have been saved last year. Does it really matter if 1% abuse the system if the wider goal is achieved?
Also you don't have to die to suffer through a lack of food for a prolonged period of time. How many kids will be hungry that week? How many parents will be hungry to make sure their kids can eat? We're talking less than £3 of income tax per taxpayer to make sure kids don't go hungry for three weeks. There is no argument against this.
Perhaps you should make a donation to a food bank. Then you could control precisely what gets given out. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:27 - Oct 24 with 349 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:22 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Mate, you’re playing a losing game. Some seem to have free reign on here. That’s just the way it is. I get f’d at pretty much as standard, I get called ‘scum’, ‘piece of sh1t’ almost every day. That’s how it goes. |
So, you're a Trump supporting, racist and homophobic joke enjoying working class lad, dragged himself out of poverty by his own brilliance, only to now stomp on the kids who haven't yet had a chance to do the same, for no reason whatsoever than pettiness and spite, and you think you're scum?
Seems like you're the one who is out of touch. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:29 - Oct 24 with 342 views | J2BLUE |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:13 - Oct 24 by CoachRob |
"...unfortunately now sees us 2 Trillion in debt which will now be a massive burden on our children for decades to come.."
I see people keep making this intertemporal argument but never seem to be able to back it up with any accounting, Can you please explain what you mean by a burden?
You use the word "us" - so who owns the asset side?
Given the BoE's Q.E. policy, is the debt really £2tn? |
Perhaps we can save 136 kids (or more in the current climate) who can then grow up and help reduce that burden if people need to get something out of this transaction.
If stopping kids starving isn't enough for people...
(not aimed at you Rob) | |
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