| This Free School Meals debate 18:53 - Oct 21 with 22426 views | tractordownsouth |
I've just seen the clips from Twitter as I don't have a licence to watch on Iplayer but bloody hell, these heartless individuals... They're all preaching personal responsibility, while voting for a policy that will ensure whether or not kids eat is determined by their parents income, which they have no control over.
First we have Brendan Clarke Smith accusing those wanting to feed kids of "virtue signalling." He's the same bloke who was caught denying the scale of food banks during his election hustings.
And Kieran Mullen, claiming that it's not the state's job to feed kids.
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:49 - Oct 24 with 844 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:46 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
I don’t believe he is any of those things. Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now. Looking at corona from a purely scientific point of view gives a very different response to considering economics ... |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 with 828 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:46 - Oct 24 by J2BLUE |
Did you see that they can't trace the parents of over 500 kids in America who Trump separated just to make a point?
Imagine being a child and not knowing if you'll ever see your parents again while being held in a foreign country.
Utterly horrific. |
Perhaps those parents shouldn’t have put those kids at risk by breaking immigration law, just a thought |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 with 842 views | Herbivore |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:46 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
I don’t believe he is any of those things. Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now. Looking at corona from a purely scientific point of view gives a very different response to considering economics ... |
This is another one of your 'beliefs' that simply doesn't stack up with reality. Have a day off, Paz. When you're trolling people who care about vulnerable children being fed you should realise your life has hit the kind of low that warrants remedial action. The absolute state of you. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 with 828 views | Ryorry |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:40 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
I don’t deny supporting trump because I do
I deny making racist or homophobic jokes and challenge you to find one I’ve made |
Jeezus H, why on earth would any intelligent, aware, decent person support that corrupt, thieving, demented, proven serial liar & sexist abuser who has not a shred of respect for any human being on the planet (including himself)??
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 with 839 views | J2BLUE |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:49 - Oct 24 by SpruceMoose |
Unbelievable. |
Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now.
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:54 - Oct 24 with 831 views | J2BLUE |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Perhaps those parents shouldn’t have put those kids at risk by breaking immigration law, just a thought |
No empathy then?
The fact truly nasty people like you genuinely consider themselves reasonable is scary. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:55 - Oct 24 with 811 views | Ryorry |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 by J2BLUE |
Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now.
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Breathtaking isn't it. Defines him as a troll 100%. He's just out to waste our time & probably laughing at us as I speak. I'm embarrassed to have wasted my time on him. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:58 - Oct 24 with 813 views | Herbivore |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Perhaps those parents shouldn’t have put those kids at risk by breaking immigration law, just a thought |
Whether you believe this sh!t or whether you're simply trolling, either way you're an awful person. The absolute state of you. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 23:58 - Oct 24 with 803 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:55 - Oct 24 by Ryorry |
Breathtaking isn't it. Defines him as a troll 100%. He's just out to waste our time & probably laughing at us as I speak. I'm embarrassed to have wasted my time on him. |
I’m genuinely not a troll. I don’t expect you to understand this but what I’m saying is that a purely scientific view on Covid would come up with a very different response to one that considers all factors | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:07 - Oct 25 with 790 views | Trequartista |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:46 - Oct 24 by Herbivore |
In all the years I've posted on here I can't think of a single occasion I've seen you put forth a position on political, social, or economic issues that could properly be described as left wing. |
Apart from this one where i've supported Rashford and the Labour amendment in parliament? |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:07 - Oct 25 with 778 views | Ryorry |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:58 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
I’m genuinely not a troll. I don’t expect you to understand this but what I’m saying is that a purely scientific view on Covid would come up with a very different response to one that considers all factors |
You also just said
"I don’t believe he ((ie Trump)) is any of those things. Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now. Looking at corona from a purely scientific point of view gives a very different response to considering economics ..."
"The purely scientific point of view" could mean that without intervention, including the intervention of medical science that humans have developed, millions of humans could die from the exponential growth of Covid_19.
Being "anti science" means Trump is a climate change denier, with all that implies for the future of humankind.
If you're not a troll, the alternatives are that you're either exceptionally stupid or exceptionally lacking in empathy & compassion for other humans.
Which do you prefer? [Post edited 25 Oct 2020 0:26]
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:08 - Oct 25 with 786 views | HARRY10 |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:52 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
It’s not a competition but for the record I am just as working class as you are. Admittedly, since I moved out of Ipswich I’m not doing terribly and I’m a single man in my early 30s with a slightly above average salary. I know there are people bringing up families on less than what I earn just for myself. As I said, I am working class, I know real working Britain, I know what conditions are like and I know that paying a couple of quid for a kids lunch during the holidays is not going to bankrupt anyone |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:11 - Oct 25 with 769 views | 26_Paz |
| This Free School Meals debate on 00:07 - Oct 25 by Ryorry |
You also just said
"I don’t believe he ((ie Trump)) is any of those things. Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now. Looking at corona from a purely scientific point of view gives a very different response to considering economics ..."
"The purely scientific point of view" could mean that without intervention, including the intervention of medical science that humans have developed, millions of humans could die from the exponential growth of Covid_19.
Being "anti science" means Trump is a climate change denier, with all that implies for the future of humankind.
If you're not a troll, the alternatives are that you're either exceptionally stupid or exceptionally lacking in empathy & compassion for other humans.
Which do you prefer? [Post edited 25 Oct 2020 0:26]
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Alright, whatever, good night | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:12 - Oct 25 with 776 views | Herbivore |
| This Free School Meals debate on 00:07 - Oct 25 by Trequartista |
Apart from this one where i've supported Rashford and the Labour amendment in parliament? |
When did thinking children shouldn't go hungry become an exclusively left wing view? | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:16 - Oct 25 with 765 views | jeera |
| This Free School Meals debate on 22:52 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
It’s not a competition but for the record I am just as working class as you are. Admittedly, since I moved out of Ipswich I’m not doing terribly and I’m a single man in my early 30s with a slightly above average salary. I know there are people bringing up families on less than what I earn just for myself. As I said, I am working class, I know real working Britain, I know what conditions are like and I know that paying a couple of quid for a kids lunch during the holidays is not going to bankrupt anyone |
Working class this, working class that.
You don't know poverty, nor do you have any understanding of it, yet you keep making comments anyway and claiming it's an opinion.
You do not have an informed opinion. You are just saying things. That is not the same as an informed opinion.
There are working class people earning a grand a week so to keep banging this same repetitive drum as though you know what you're talking about is rude and downright pig-ignorant.
Yes, there are people for whom that 'couple of quid' per day is out of reach.
Then you wonder why people call you names. Vile. [Post edited 25 Oct 2020 1:00]
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| This Free School Meals debate on 00:54 - Oct 25 with 726 views | The_Major |
To me, this decision about school meals is worse than Brexit.
You see, with Brexit, there is a chance of course, however small it may seem, that it may turn out a rip roaring success. Personally, I don't think so, but yes, I could be wrong.
Nobody can say with 100% certainty that Brexit will work, or it will not. We will have to wait and see. People voted for it in the belief that it will work, and as yet, we cannot say that they were wrong.
The school meals issue however, is only going to result in one outcome. Hungry children. For someone to vote, or indeed support that shows such wickedness, and lack of compassion for their fellow human being that their moral compass is not only askew, but thoroughly broken. |  | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 02:02 - Oct 25 with 681 views | SpruceMoose |
| This Free School Meals debate on 00:07 - Oct 25 by Ryorry |
You also just said
"I don’t believe he ((ie Trump)) is any of those things. Except perhaps anti science which I think is a good thing right now. Looking at corona from a purely scientific point of view gives a very different response to considering economics ..."
"The purely scientific point of view" could mean that without intervention, including the intervention of medical science that humans have developed, millions of humans could die from the exponential growth of Covid_19.
Being "anti science" means Trump is a climate change denier, with all that implies for the future of humankind.
If you're not a troll, the alternatives are that you're either exceptionally stupid or exceptionally lacking in empathy & compassion for other humans.
Which do you prefer? [Post edited 25 Oct 2020 0:26]
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Surely only a racist would think that Trump isn't a racist. Could it just be that damn simple?
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
https://gen.medium.com/trump-keeps-saying-racist-things-heres-the-ever-growing-l
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/58806 [Post edited 25 Oct 2020 2:07]
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| This Free School Meals debate on 03:57 - Oct 25 with 634 views | NewcyBlue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Perhaps those parents shouldn’t have put those kids at risk by breaking immigration law, just a thought |
Search and Rescue by NewcyBlue 30 Sep 2020 11:11I’m likely to be delayed getting home.
Coming up the coast of Africa as we near the Canary Islands, approximately 100 nautical miles south, we receive a radio call telling us to proceed to a position 10nm from us.
Two migrant boats have been spotted by SAR aircraft.
We arrive on scene approximately 40 minutes later to find two boats heading on a northerly course at just of 4 knots. Sea state isn’t brilliant for such small boats.
We reported to the nearest Marine Rescue Coordination Centre that we have two small boats in sight. A few minutes later they tell us that they have dispatched a SAR vessel, and we are to escort the migrants to the safety of said vessel.
For over 6 hours we escort what ended up being 4 migrant boats, with at least 30 odd people on each.
At 2135GMT we are released from SAR duties. Having escorted a minimum of 120 people to safety.
Delayed home? Likely. Worth it? Definitely. I have the rest of my life to see my twins, those migrants were taking huge risks in the Atlantic Ocean just so they can see the sun rise over a better future.
I wonder where they will end up. I wish them luck.
That’s what I call a good day. |  |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 04:18 - Oct 25 with 622 views | Mercian |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:58 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
I’m genuinely not a troll. I don’t expect you to understand this but what I’m saying is that a purely scientific view on Covid would come up with a very different response to one that considers all factors |
What about the fact the that the majority of those needing help are white British kids with White British parents? No only are you a troll you are, at least from where I am sitting, a racist, xenophobic and misinformed one. |  | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 06:02 - Oct 25 with 593 views | m14_blue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:31 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
Have you ever heard of the maxim "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"? I realise that the wokists have trampled that into dirt. Well note the word "disapprove". It means you can be on the left by disapproving of the right. |
Do you even realise how pathetic you sound parroting things like wokists?
We hardly ever agree but I find you quite interesting usually, don’t become another useful idiot for those wanting to create a culture war for their own narrow ends.
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:16 - Oct 25 with 491 views | eireblue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:31 - Oct 24 by Trequartista |
Have you ever heard of the maxim "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"? I realise that the wokists have trampled that into dirt. Well note the word "disapprove". It means you can be on the left by disapproving of the right. |
Just as an interesting aside to the debate.
https://checkyourfact.com/2019/09/17/fact-check-voltaire-disapprove-defend-death
Would you defend a person, using anti-Semitic language as defined by the IHRA.
Would you defend a person that denies the holocaust.
Would you defend a person that tells gay people they should be treated for their condition
If any of those are defensible under the “Voltaire Gambit”, why doesn’t that apply to say Spruce expressing himself on say, Paz. |  | | |
| This Free School Meals debate on 09:19 - Oct 25 with 484 views | tractordownsouth |
| This Free School Meals debate on 21:52 - Oct 24 by thegloryyears |
The trouble with the radical left Paz is they dont think anyone has a right to a different point of view...there is absolutely no need for any child to starve in this country - Me and my wife receive £160 a month for our 2 children, there are also unemployment benefits, Universal Tax Credits and as a last resort food banks....Marcus Rashford seems to be a very humble caring young man and I have complete admiration for him, but ultimately it has to be the parents responsibilty to look after their children, as a nation we seem to be getting more and more reliant on hand outs and freebies from the government which unfortunately now sees us 2 Trillion in debt which will now be a massive burden on our children for decades to come... |
Why should a child suffer because of their parents' negligence? And why should all poor kids suffer due to that small minority? That seems a question that nobody is able to answer
We're not "getting more and more reliant on hand outs" - those have been cut massively throughout the last 10 years yet the national debt has still gone up. It's almost as if cutting peoples' support actually makes them less likely to make a decent wage for themselves. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:21 - Oct 25 with 478 views | tractordownsouth |
| This Free School Meals debate on 23:51 - Oct 24 by 26_Paz |
Perhaps those parents shouldn’t have put those kids at risk by breaking immigration law, just a thought |
Again, you're in favour of punishing kids for the actions of their parents, which is the complete opposite of personal responsibility | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:24 - Oct 25 with 477 views | jeera |
| This Free School Meals debate on 09:19 - Oct 25 by tractordownsouth |
Why should a child suffer because of their parents' negligence? And why should all poor kids suffer due to that small minority? That seems a question that nobody is able to answer
We're not "getting more and more reliant on hand outs" - those have been cut massively throughout the last 10 years yet the national debt has still gone up. It's almost as if cutting peoples' support actually makes them less likely to make a decent wage for themselves. |
"getting more and more reliant on hand outs"
It's just another of those things some people assume is happening, and have no idea what the actual score is at all.
It sounds good in their heads, it doesn't have to be true to be repeated.
To suggest the country is in debt because of 'handouts' is absurd. Notably these people don't comment on the billions wasted by government on white elephants or even appear to notice it happening. | |
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| This Free School Meals debate on 09:34 - Oct 25 with 458 views | eireblue |
| This Free School Meals debate on 09:19 - Oct 25 by tractordownsouth |
Why should a child suffer because of their parents' negligence? And why should all poor kids suffer due to that small minority? That seems a question that nobody is able to answer
We're not "getting more and more reliant on hand outs" - those have been cut massively throughout the last 10 years yet the national debt has still gone up. It's almost as if cutting peoples' support actually makes them less likely to make a decent wage for themselves. |
I don’t have children.
But my taxes have to subsidise people that do.
Unless someone that has children, exclusively uses a private school that doesn’t have charity status, and uses private health care and never the NHS, then I am supporting their children.
I think this is sometimes missed, by some people that have children, and look down on other children, and think they shouldn’t be helped.
But guess what, your children are subsidised by the state.
Seems to me any rationale that Tories and other parents apply to spending money on less fortunate children, I can apply to their children.
I wonder, if more of my taxes are spent on supporting children not in poverty vs additional support for children in poverty.
In which case, surely, I should be able to demonise parents using state schools, and the NHS, for not properly looking after their own children, and they need my hard earned to support them?
Of course that is not how I think, but doesn’t seem any different to the attitude of some adults to some children. | | | |
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