| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games 09:13 - Dec 18 with 9502 views | itfcjoe |
And we have an assistant manager with no fitness qualifications doing the warm ups.
Shrewsbury - Nolan (22)
Hull City - Sears (32)
Charlton - Norwood (35), Nsiala (71)
Oxford - None
Plymouth - None
Portsmouth - Nolan (33)
Burton Albion - Bennetts (45)
It's not unlucky, it's a total dereliction of duties towards our players |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:19 - Dec 18 with 1830 views | SomethingBlue |
It's an absolute joke and it is destroying us as much as anything else. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:22 - Dec 18 with 1829 views | marchy |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:17 - Dec 18 by Hipsterectomy |
How did we survive the 2004/5 season, almost getting promoted, with a tiny squad and the only notable injuries being Kuqi for a month and Davis for a few weeks |
Because we were a better football club in every measurable way. | | | |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:33 - Dec 18 with 1789 views | Kieran_Knows |
I would comment, but it’s probably best I don’t. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:34 - Dec 18 with 1782 views | itfcjoe |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:33 - Dec 18 by Kieran_Knows |
I would comment, but it’s probably best I don’t. |
Don't tease us | |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:35 - Dec 18 with 1774 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:16 - Dec 18 by portmanking |
The bottom paragraph sums up Evans' reign in a nutshell.
So transfixed on getting things right ON the pitch that he has no concept of how the off-field environment needs to work in perfect harmony.
Mind you, if he were to invest more in sports science, his sliding scale invested into the first-team would surely diminish too, so..... |
Marginal gains - and you will obtain none by investing the absolute bare minimum in the infrastructure of the club - sports science, scouting, competent DOF etc.
And that goes for plenty of other seemingly trivial things off the pitch as well like the ground being a mess, having one card machine in the NSL, delays re vouchers being issued, cuts in 'non-football' staff. These things all add up to providing a worse experience for fans ultimately.
Sorry I am on a rant... [Post edited 18 Dec 2020 10:47]
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:39 - Dec 18 with 1752 views | marchy |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:41 - Dec 18 with 1744 views | gordon |
The thing that absolutely baffles me, is that it sounds like Lambert isn't even in contact with the medical team about our injuries - there have been so many times when he seems to have just shrugged his shoulders and basically said 'I don't know, we'll see' about injuries:
“He’s doing OK, but this one will be too early for him,” he said. “I don’t know how he is either, we just need to monitor them, so we’ll probably need to dip into the younger age group again, I think.”
Is anyone else struggling? “Not as such, we have to wait and see where we’re at.” |  | | |
| I didn't realise Toto was that old...... on 10:41 - Dec 18 with 1735 views | Keno |
| I didn't realise Toto was that old...... on 09:34 - Dec 18 by Bloots |
....no wonder he picked up the injury. |
Finidi George's younger brother? |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:42 - Dec 18 with 1736 views | catch74 |
Not sure if I’ve got this right but didn’t Lambert say the game before Nolan’s latest injury, that he wasn’t ready to play (after he’d subbed him.) Norwood definitely came back a couple of weeks early.
I think some of it is a catch 22, the number of injuries mean we need to get players back ASAP. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:46 - Dec 18 with 1728 views | Radlett_blue |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:11 - Dec 18 by clive_baker |
There's no way the level of injuries we've sustained over a period of time is par for the course. It's not a one off with freak injuries, these are regular and reoccurring. We massively over index in this regard over a period of time, it's not bad luck.
It's penny pinching. I worked for Charlton when they were in L1 and the set up there felt so far ahead of what we've got now. I just took a look at a club like Lincoln out of interest, they've got a Head of Sports Science & Medicine, Lead Sports Scientist, Sports Science & Medicine Assistant and Assistant Sports Scientist listed on their website. Who have we got? A Sports Scientist 'advising' remotely in Scotland and 1 conditioning coach.
Oh and a former L2 footballer / coach with no qualification masquerading as a fitness coach. Not digging out Matt Gill but it's not his core competency is it.
Basket case of a club, investing so much in playing staff and not giving them the environment in which to get the best out of them. It's so counter productive. |
Indeed. O'Neill is nominally responsible for sports science so you would think this is his responsibility, but maybe he won't ask for or has been refused a bigger budget by Evans? An incredibly false economy.
Lambert will also have some say in this. He recruited Jim Henry & by all accounts there have been disagreements, hence his departure. However, we haven't replaced him so will bumble along as usual. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:48 - Dec 18 with 1717 views | BlueBadger |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:41 - Dec 18 by gordon |
The thing that absolutely baffles me, is that it sounds like Lambert isn't even in contact with the medical team about our injuries - there have been so many times when he seems to have just shrugged his shoulders and basically said 'I don't know, we'll see' about injuries:
“He’s doing OK, but this one will be too early for him,” he said. “I don’t know how he is either, we just need to monitor them, so we’ll probably need to dip into the younger age group again, I think.”
Is anyone else struggling? “Not as such, we have to wait and see where we’re at.” |
That's probably more reflective on his half-arsed approach to doing his job in general though, in all fairness. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:59 - Dec 18 with 1678 views | Steve_M |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:11 - Dec 18 by clive_baker |
There's no way the level of injuries we've sustained over a period of time is par for the course. It's not a one off with freak injuries, these are regular and reoccurring. We massively over index in this regard over a period of time, it's not bad luck.
It's penny pinching. I worked for Charlton when they were in L1 and the set up there felt so far ahead of what we've got now. I just took a look at a club like Lincoln out of interest, they've got a Head of Sports Science & Medicine, Lead Sports Scientist, Sports Science & Medicine Assistant and Assistant Sports Scientist listed on their website. Who have we got? A Sports Scientist 'advising' remotely in Scotland and 1 conditioning coach.
Oh and a former L2 footballer / coach with no qualification masquerading as a fitness coach. Not digging out Matt Gill but it's not his core competency is it.
Basket case of a club, investing so much in playing staff and not giving them the environment in which to get the best out of them. It's so counter productive. |
"Basket case of a club, investing so much in playing staff and not giving them the environment in which to get the best out of them. It's so counter productive."
The Evans era is a sentence. See also the extensive turnover of players between managers, and the state of the ground. All of which will cost more in the long-term than having either a sensible footballing structure or performing basic maintenance properly. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:02 - Dec 18 with 1669 views | SuperCoops |
While there is seemingly an issue with the medical science part of the club, I do think some of you are neglecting this year in that clubs are playing a lot more games in a shorter space of time which gives players far less recovery from muscle and impact injuries.
We aren't the only club suffering an influx of muscles, hamstring, thigh, groin injuries etc, hence why they brought in the 5 subs rule to try and reduce the burden.
An athlete's body needs more recovery time than they're currently getting ideally with 2 games every week. |  | | |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:05 - Dec 18 with 1661 views | Keaneish |
To be fair, if you’re a professional footballer and you don’t know how to warm up or look after your body, you’re pretty stupid! |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:15 - Dec 18 with 1629 views | marchy |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:02 - Dec 18 by SuperCoops |
While there is seemingly an issue with the medical science part of the club, I do think some of you are neglecting this year in that clubs are playing a lot more games in a shorter space of time which gives players far less recovery from muscle and impact injuries.
We aren't the only club suffering an influx of muscles, hamstring, thigh, groin injuries etc, hence why they brought in the 5 subs rule to try and reduce the burden.
An athlete's body needs more recovery time than they're currently getting ideally with 2 games every week. |
Funny though, we don't seem to have come up against any other sides absolutely decimated with injuries, nor seen many key players limp off against us. | | | |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:22 - Dec 18 with 1604 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 10:59 - Dec 18 by Steve_M |
"Basket case of a club, investing so much in playing staff and not giving them the environment in which to get the best out of them. It's so counter productive."
The Evans era is a sentence. See also the extensive turnover of players between managers, and the state of the ground. All of which will cost more in the long-term than having either a sensible footballing structure or performing basic maintenance properly. |
Even little things like how you got a piece of tissue paper to hold your hotdog instead of a cardboard box like most normal clubs, shows the penny-pinching nature of how the club is run. |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:23 - Dec 18 with 1600 views | longtimefan |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:15 - Dec 18 by marchy |
Funny though, we don't seem to have come up against any other sides absolutely decimated with injuries, nor seen many key players limp off against us. |
Not our league, but Norwich have also had a lot of injuries this year. In fact the Athletic did a piece on the 3rd Dec on them having 12 players missing. Not a subscriber so don’t know what their view on it was. | | | |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:24 - Dec 18 with 1597 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:02 - Dec 18 by SuperCoops |
While there is seemingly an issue with the medical science part of the club, I do think some of you are neglecting this year in that clubs are playing a lot more games in a shorter space of time which gives players far less recovery from muscle and impact injuries.
We aren't the only club suffering an influx of muscles, hamstring, thigh, groin injuries etc, hence why they brought in the 5 subs rule to try and reduce the burden.
An athlete's body needs more recovery time than they're currently getting ideally with 2 games every week. |
The injury crisis has been going on for years at this club, not the last few months. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:25 - Dec 18 with 1595 views | Herbivore |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:02 - Dec 18 by SuperCoops |
While there is seemingly an issue with the medical science part of the club, I do think some of you are neglecting this year in that clubs are playing a lot more games in a shorter space of time which gives players far less recovery from muscle and impact injuries.
We aren't the only club suffering an influx of muscles, hamstring, thigh, groin injuries etc, hence why they brought in the 5 subs rule to try and reduce the burden.
An athlete's body needs more recovery time than they're currently getting ideally with 2 games every week. |
So why does it only seem to be our players coming off injured with muscle injuries during our matches? Before I stopped watching us it was only ever us needing to sub players because they'd pulled up. All teams are in the same boat, so why are we coping so much worse than most of our rivals? |  |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:30 - Dec 18 with 1581 views | SuperCoops |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:25 - Dec 18 by Herbivore |
So why does it only seem to be our players coming off injured with muscle injuries during our matches? Before I stopped watching us it was only ever us needing to sub players because they'd pulled up. All teams are in the same boat, so why are we coping so much worse than most of our rivals? |
Genuine question: how many times do you follow our opponents substitutions and then follow up on that player's progress and reason for being replaced, the nature of any injury and when they next play? | | | |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:31 - Dec 18 with 1577 views | SomethingBlue |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:25 - Dec 18 by Herbivore |
So why does it only seem to be our players coming off injured with muscle injuries during our matches? Before I stopped watching us it was only ever us needing to sub players because they'd pulled up. All teams are in the same boat, so why are we coping so much worse than most of our rivals? |
Town will just ignore that pattern as well as the much longer-term trend and claim it is 100% brought on by the post-lockdown schedule. It is ever thus with ITFC: bound by events, or their interpretation of them, rather than shaping or instigating anything themselves. | |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:32 - Dec 18 with 1572 views | Herbivore |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:30 - Dec 18 by SuperCoops |
Genuine question: how many times do you follow our opponents substitutions and then follow up on that player's progress and reason for being replaced, the nature of any injury and when they next play? |
I can use my eyes, mate. It's usually pretty evident when a player is coming off with an injury. | |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:33 - Dec 18 with 1567 views | Herbivore |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:31 - Dec 18 by SomethingBlue |
Town will just ignore that pattern as well as the much longer-term trend and claim it is 100% brought on by the post-lockdown schedule. It is ever thus with ITFC: bound by events, or their interpretation of them, rather than shaping or instigating anything themselves. |
Indeed. One of the worst things about ITFC is this sense of fatalism that seems to have completely enveloped the club. Nothing is proactive, we just let sh!t happen and take no responsibility for it. | |
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| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:36 - Dec 18 with 1557 views | SuperCoops |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:32 - Dec 18 by Herbivore |
I can use my eyes, mate. It's usually pretty evident when a player is coming off with an injury. |
You've not answered my question fully. Have you checked that opposition players who come off are featuring in their next game. I'm sorry, but you're not a physiotherapist and they could be slight muscle injuries and less so obvious. Do you really concentrate on every opposition player leaving the field? | | | |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:38 - Dec 18 with 1551 views | Radlett_blue |
| 6 in game muscle injuries in 7 games on 11:23 - Dec 18 by longtimefan |
Not our league, but Norwich have also had a lot of injuries this year. In fact the Athletic did a piece on the 3rd Dec on them having 12 players missing. Not a subscriber so don’t know what their view on it was. |
That makes the fact that Norwich are top of the Championship even harder to bear.
Amazing to think that only just 2 years ago, we had the better of a 1-1 draw, were deriding Farke & were still hoping Hurst could be the new messiah. | |
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