| Market research 18:50 - Mar 10 with 5691 views | catch74 |
So my pub has a decent garden - we’re set up to serve everything from the pub. We’re thinking of building an outside bar for obvious reasons in the current climate.
Anywhere anyone’s been offering something special/ something really enjoyed - food and drinks.
Could go pizza oven - but quite a few pubs round here have done that already. Burgers/ Paninis/ kebabs or home made ice cream stall.
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| Market research on 18:52 - Mar 10 with 1978 views | J2BLUE |
Pizza oven and ice cream stall sounds great. |  |
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| Market research on 18:54 - Mar 10 with 1972 views | bluelagos |
Are you rural? Suburb? Town center?
If you have a FB page - you could message your punters and ask 'em. |  |
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| Market research on 18:56 - Mar 10 with 1964 views | pennblue |
street food - London in particular have Indian street stalls where they marinate chicken in Tikka sauce, then bbq it, put it in a proper Indian wrap (not japati) something else (don't know the name of them), and then you can have salad / sauces in it.
Easy to do vegan option too.
The Vine in West Brom did it out the back, it was awesome.
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g504214-d2701621-r728857099-The_Vi
Check out Chicken Tikka Wrap [Post edited 10 Mar 2021 18:59]
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| Market research on 19:01 - Mar 10 with 1927 views | Coastalblue |
You're Surrey? Is that right? Rural?
Probably not going to add much meaningful to your request, but when you're up and running if you're the area I think you are then I'll definitely come and sample. We often enjoy a day out in the country around that neck of the woods and the odd weekend away, I think it will be high on the list once we can get out and about again.
To answer your question, I do enjoy a good wood fired pizza, proper authentic stylee, but a well done BBQ takes an awful lot of beating if you can get beyond sausages and burgers. My only other input would be, on behalf of my partner, a proper veggie option that deasn't look like a token gesture or afterthough goes a long way. |  |
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| Market research on 19:01 - Mar 10 with 1928 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Market research on 18:56 - Mar 10 by pennblue |
street food - London in particular have Indian street stalls where they marinate chicken in Tikka sauce, then bbq it, put it in a proper Indian wrap (not japati) something else (don't know the name of them), and then you can have salad / sauces in it.
Easy to do vegan option too.
The Vine in West Brom did it out the back, it was awesome.
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g504214-d2701621-r728857099-The_Vi
Check out Chicken Tikka Wrap [Post edited 10 Mar 2021 18:59]
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Yeah but The Vine, Sportsman, Red Cow etc have masses of Indian chefs around there looking for a job. I don't think rural Surrey will be so easy.
I would go burger!
Edit; Although one of those indoor / outdoor Indian BBQ things which you get in West Bromwich, Birmingham etc would be a blooming goldmine in the south. If he could find a chef who knows the ropes with that sort of pub dining then it would be a mini tourist attraction, people would drive for miles.
Edit Edit; I know The Vine is great but The Sportsman in my favourite up that way. https://www.sportsmanbarandrestaurant.co.uk/
Catch; If you were serious and had a room for the chef to live in I reckon I might be able to find you an Indian Brummy chef.
Long term it would be brilliant. [Post edited 10 Mar 2021 19:10]
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| Market research on 19:08 - Mar 10 with 1899 views | BlueBadger |
Tapas? Lots of nice small snacky things with lots of opportunity for vegan things as well as meaty things. [Post edited 10 Mar 2021 19:24]
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| Market research on 19:09 - Mar 10 with 1890 views | footers |
The outside bar at the Pineapple in Kentish Town is cask ales and ciders only. Literally just the casks stacked on top of each other and they just fly out.
Food trends are much harder to catch, imo. But if you can make a decent pizza then that's a pretty good long-term money spinner. You can always adapt the pizzas to changing times and not your whole offering. |  |
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| Market research on 19:13 - Mar 10 with 1857 views | Bluemer |
The Duke of York in Ipswich has the double decker bus that does good "beer garden food", Burgers, Wings & Ribs I think they're called. Google them for menu | | | |
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| Pork scratchings and pickled eggs, sorted. (n/t) on 19:14 - Mar 10 with 1847 views | Bloots |
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| Pork scratchings and pickled eggs, sorted. (n/t) on 19:15 - Mar 10 with 1843 views | Coastalblue |
| Pork scratchings and pickled eggs, sorted. (n/t) on 19:14 - Mar 10 by Bloots |
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Portman pie and nasty beer surely? | |
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| Market research on 19:17 - Mar 10 with 1842 views | catch74 |
| Market research on 18:54 - Mar 10 by bluelagos |
Are you rural? Suburb? Town center?
If you have a FB page - you could message your punters and ask 'em. |
We are rural - danger of our Facebook page is we’ve fought off a number of the locals who thought they owned the place previously. It’s nice to have some ‘external’ ideas. I’ve found this site really useful for ideas etc in the past. | |
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| Market research on 19:19 - Mar 10 with 1831 views | catch74 |
| Market research on 19:01 - Mar 10 by Coastalblue |
You're Surrey? Is that right? Rural?
Probably not going to add much meaningful to your request, but when you're up and running if you're the area I think you are then I'll definitely come and sample. We often enjoy a day out in the country around that neck of the woods and the odd weekend away, I think it will be high on the list once we can get out and about again.
To answer your question, I do enjoy a good wood fired pizza, proper authentic stylee, but a well done BBQ takes an awful lot of beating if you can get beyond sausages and burgers. My only other input would be, on behalf of my partner, a proper veggie option that deasn't look like a token gesture or afterthough goes a long way. |
Cheers Coastal - give me a shout if you’re coming.
We’re Surrey, near Alice Holt. | |
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| Market research on 19:20 - Mar 10 with 1824 views | catch74 |
| Market research on 19:01 - Mar 10 by Lord_Lucan |
Yeah but The Vine, Sportsman, Red Cow etc have masses of Indian chefs around there looking for a job. I don't think rural Surrey will be so easy.
I would go burger!
Edit; Although one of those indoor / outdoor Indian BBQ things which you get in West Bromwich, Birmingham etc would be a blooming goldmine in the south. If he could find a chef who knows the ropes with that sort of pub dining then it would be a mini tourist attraction, people would drive for miles.
Edit Edit; I know The Vine is great but The Sportsman in my favourite up that way. https://www.sportsmanbarandrestaurant.co.uk/
Catch; If you were serious and had a room for the chef to live in I reckon I might be able to find you an Indian Brummy chef.
Long term it would be brilliant. [Post edited 10 Mar 2021 19:10]
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I’ll keep in touch, that could be a great idea. Accommodation might be the issue currently but things may change! | |
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| Market research on 19:21 - Mar 10 with 1819 views | catch74 |
| Market research on 19:13 - Mar 10 by Bluemer |
The Duke of York in Ipswich has the double decker bus that does good "beer garden food", Burgers, Wings & Ribs I think they're called. Google them for menu |
Thanks Bluemer. | |
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| Market research on 19:22 - Mar 10 with 1816 views | Coastalblue |
| Market research on 19:19 - Mar 10 by catch74 |
Cheers Coastal - give me a shout if you’re coming.
We’re Surrey, near Alice Holt. |
We will definitely come pay you a visit, when the madness is over. Quite often head to around the South Downs area so be nice to see somewhere else in the area. | |
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| Market research on 19:27 - Mar 10 with 1792 views | Mullet |
I think people have you covered but it has to be pizzas or wraps/subs. That way they can be kid friendly, hippy friendly and fad-friendly as you can change the flavours and ingredients regularly.
There's loads of stuff you can chuck on the BBQ and do a range of stuff/themes every few weeks if you fancy.
My mate runs a burger place and while they are a bit old hat now, the American "man vs food" style gluttony stuff still sells really well and can allow you to cater to all tastes. |  |
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| Market research on 19:28 - Mar 10 with 1792 views | jeera |
| Market research on 19:17 - Mar 10 by catch74 |
We are rural - danger of our Facebook page is we’ve fought off a number of the locals who thought they owned the place previously. It’s nice to have some ‘external’ ideas. I’ve found this site really useful for ideas etc in the past. |
"we’ve fought off a number of the locals who thought they owned the place previously."
Interesting line.
A previous local of mine went through numerous owners who couldn't make it work despite some fine efforts and an excellent plot.
I tried to point out the problem in my opinion was the locals thought it was their pub and that outsiders were put off.
It's all very well *so&so* coming in and sinking half his wages each week in Stella, but that family who just walked out the door because of his swearing were about to order a Sunday lunch for 4.
Some landlords might look at Mr Boozy as their bread and butter but personally I reckon there's more long-term prospect in getting that food on the table and making that work. |  |
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| Market research on 19:30 - Mar 10 with 1780 views | Churchman |
It all sounds great to me. I think whatever you decide the key is good quality. It doesn’t have to be an extensive menu. Just good, whatever it is, and people will flock to it. Burgers, home made steak pies, kebabs, bbq - it’s making me hungry again just thinking of it!
I hope it goes well. |  | | |
| Market research on 19:31 - Mar 10 with 1771 views | J2BLUE |
| Market research on 19:28 - Mar 10 by jeera |
"we’ve fought off a number of the locals who thought they owned the place previously."
Interesting line.
A previous local of mine went through numerous owners who couldn't make it work despite some fine efforts and an excellent plot.
I tried to point out the problem in my opinion was the locals thought it was their pub and that outsiders were put off.
It's all very well *so&so* coming in and sinking half his wages each week in Stella, but that family who just walked out the door because of his swearing were about to order a Sunday lunch for 4.
Some landlords might look at Mr Boozy as their bread and butter but personally I reckon there's more long-term prospect in getting that food on the table and making that work. |
Some of that type seem to take a weird sort of pride in not drinking in a family pub. Same sort of weirdos who hate Town being a family club and wish we had a bit more aggro. | |
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| Market research on 19:32 - Mar 10 with 1763 views | hoppy |
Outside bar, serving Away Days beer (as it's away from the main bar...!!)
Pizza oven would work well with your garden setting, but so would decent BBQ/paninis/burgers.
I thought it was a really nice pub when I visited, to be fair, so anything that is an added value like that would just add to the offering you have, and not just limited to covid restrictions. |  |
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| Market research on 19:36 - Mar 10 with 1734 views | Mullet |
| Market research on 19:28 - Mar 10 by jeera |
"we’ve fought off a number of the locals who thought they owned the place previously."
Interesting line.
A previous local of mine went through numerous owners who couldn't make it work despite some fine efforts and an excellent plot.
I tried to point out the problem in my opinion was the locals thought it was their pub and that outsiders were put off.
It's all very well *so&so* coming in and sinking half his wages each week in Stella, but that family who just walked out the door because of his swearing were about to order a Sunday lunch for 4.
Some landlords might look at Mr Boozy as their bread and butter but personally I reckon there's more long-term prospect in getting that food on the table and making that work. |
Especially if your bar money goes to Adnams and their ilk and food goes in your profits. That's the future of pubs and has been for donkey's years. The days of blokes sat there supping several times a week is long dead.
I guess if you have pool/darts and screens and a rotating set of scenes and clubs passing through you'd do well but that's a lot of plates to spin compared to decent grub and service. | |
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| Pork scratchings and pickled eggs, sorted. (n/t) on 19:39 - Mar 10 with 1706 views | Dubtractor |
| Pork scratchings and pickled eggs, sorted. (n/t) on 19:14 - Mar 10 by Bloots |
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I bloody love a pickled egg in a pack of crisps.
Has to be properly pickled though, ideally going a bit brown. |  |
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| Market research on 19:40 - Mar 10 with 1710 views | jeera |
| Market research on 19:31 - Mar 10 by J2BLUE |
Some of that type seem to take a weird sort of pride in not drinking in a family pub. Same sort of weirdos who hate Town being a family club and wish we had a bit more aggro. |
Pub in adjoining village work quite well with the opposite approach.
They open the traditional hours of 11am-3pm and again from 7pm-11pm.
Although drinkers are welcome they cannot do an all day session and so it all tends to stay much more civilised.
They centre around food and have a good reputation and people will drive to them despite being in a quiet location miles from anywhere!
In fact, they have been successful enough over the years to become enabled to buy their pub from the brewery themselves and now have a family home-cum-business for generations hopefully. | |
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| Market research on 19:40 - Mar 10 with 1703 views | factual_blue |
Hog roast?
School dinners? |  |
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| Market research on 19:41 - Mar 10 with 1702 views | Coastalblue |
If things open up, and if we have a nice summer, and if you think you'd want to cater for it, would anybody else be up for a TWTD beer garden afternoon?
Most of us would have to travel, but that would either meankeeping it sensible, which I'm sure Catch would appreciate, or staying somewhere local?
I'd be up for that, either staying locally or even going for the day and soft drinking it.
Would need Catch to be OK with it of course. | |
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