| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. 00:02 - Apr 21 with 5022 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Has less to do with Cook, and everything to do with the fact that they don't care.
7th, 2 points off it, and still couldn't be bothered to break out of a walking pace against the leagues worst sides.
Most don't care if we win lose or draw and this has been a hallmark of this club under Evans, and it remains, and will remain until this squad and many of the staff are cleared out. Many former players, and loan players have alluded to the same, Ipswich has become a safe place to come and play your football, without fear of reprisal.
The club is rotten, it has been for at least 12 years, anyone not seeing this, does not understand what Evans has done to us.
Binning Cook off now, without the chance to fix the state of the club, does us no good. If we do that, we might as well get Evans back in. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:46 - Apr 21 with 716 views | belgablue |
Completely agree - only thing I’d add is that only one or two of the are good enough |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:48 - Apr 21 with 708 views | itfcpaul |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 06:51 - Apr 21 by J4ck22 |
Do you realise how low of a bar that is? |
That low, in that I was our second best player and I didn't even play, that's how low |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:55 - Apr 21 with 671 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:09 - Apr 21 by Stewart27 |
That’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen on a professional football pitch. From both players. |
On the positive side, that suggests my playing days aren't yet behind me. Genuinely I could do better in both cases there (and probably at the same time given how slow the pass is). |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:56 - Apr 21 with 677 views | Bluesky |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 00:08 - Apr 21 by pointofblue |
Hate this as I feel it’s a weak excuse and a cop out - if the players don’t care it’s down to the manager to get them motivated.
ETA: But we need to give Cook the summer. [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 0:08]
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Totally agree with all that but cannot get my head round how a soccer player can step on to a pitch and simply not want to play to win. When I played, about a thousand years ago, every time I crossed the white line onto the field, saw the ball on the centre spot and the rest of my mates lined up I couldn't help but be excited and wanting to win. It was a knee jerk reaction.
Do they do routine drug testing in the club? Our individual players never seem to exactly glow with health do they? Can't help thinking there is something beyond Evans' negative influence dragging this lot down. I feel that Paul Cook will sort this out - whatever it is. Hope so. |  | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:58 - Apr 21 with 666 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:30 - Apr 21 by itfcjoe |
A managers first job is to get more out of what they inherit than the previous manager was getting. Those that don't do that in the first instance seldom get the chance to build their own squad, most who get that chance have earned it.
All things being equal*, Cook will get the summer and rightly so - but he is eating up so much goodwill with the fanbase and is piling so much pressure on himself to hit the ground running next year.
To put things in perspective, if in the first 12 games Cook had the very average record of W4, D4, L4 then we would be sitting in the play off positions - bearing in mind the teams we have come up against - that he hasn't even managed to get that out of the squad it's not difficult to see why some have concerns with what he is doing here, and why he is struggling (i.e. no Leam Richardson)
At some point, it becomes blind faith if you give a manager a free hit to fail
*New ownership is simply something we can't predict what they will do |
I remember reading an article, towards the end of last season, and the message was that those earring a living out of football had to realise that one of the lessons they had to learn from the impact of Covid was the need to respect the fan base.
Clearly recent events show that from top to bottom this message hasn’t got through. The fiasco of the ESL is a good example.
I would suggest though that it hasn’t been learnt closer to home. The couldn’t careless attitude displayed by our players shows a lack of respect to the fan base and worryingly PC is showing signs that he is no better. Not making himself available to media before, nor after, recent games being an example.
Evans left his biggest mistake until the very end of his ownership. It would have been better to have handed the job to Dyer and Butcher until the end of the season.
The pressure is on PC, he reminds me of Paul Hurst a rabbit mesmerized by the headlights of an oncoming car. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:04 - Apr 21 with 648 views | loyalfan |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:18 - Apr 21 by tractorboy1978 |
Imagine if your whole work place bar two or three knew they were being made redundant in a couple of months. Do you think it would more or less productive? |
This is exactly what I think. I know the players should still have some pride but some may actually have worries about their future.... | | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:05 - Apr 21 with 647 views | trncbluearmy |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:09 - Apr 21 by Stewart27 |
That’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen on a professional football pitch. From both players. |
Dozzell was having a decent game in comparison with the other bunch of tossers, he then receives a ball that is beyond description, no wonder he reacts with anger and sheer disbelief,the pass is so bad what could he do.
Dozzell is one of three possibly four, if Norwood pulls his finger out, that PC should keep. |  | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:13 - Apr 21 with 638 views | Kropotkin123 |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 00:27 - Apr 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If you watch nothing else, watch Dozzell's reaction.
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Also look at the lack of off-the ball movement. Forget running, they're not even jogging to make space, they're walking.
No desire to have the ball. Jim would have been demanding the ball. Actually screaming for the ball to come to him.
How anyone can look at this or the highlights and believe they care is beyond me. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:15 - Apr 21 with 635 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:05 - Apr 21 by trncbluearmy |
Dozzell was having a decent game in comparison with the other bunch of tossers, he then receives a ball that is beyond description, no wonder he reacts with anger and sheer disbelief,the pass is so bad what could he do.
Dozzell is one of three possibly four, if Norwood pulls his finger out, that PC should keep. |
Yes, Dozzell absolutely should be kept, but IMHO, he should have to play for his place in the side next season.
But, that ball trundles by him so slowly and there's no reaction, no stretch to intercept it, no sprint to intercept it. Just throwing his hands up. I think McG thought he was putting it in to space for Dozzell, if you watch, McG looks at Doz after as if to say WTF?
And this is what's done us, individual errors all across the pitch. Woolfie missing a header totally in the second half meaning the ball dropped to a Northampton player, which lead to a near miss for example.
Look at Holy's clearance to the MIDDLE of the pitch when he's out of his goal wide on the edge of the 18 yard box. He can blame Wolfie all he likes, but why is he clearing to the middle of the pitch when he's not in his own goal to defend any returned shot?
Look how many times we were played into a corner in the full back positions, when we fannied about on the ball in defence only for Northampton to press quickly.
Dozzell will be a good player, but he needs to cut out these individual errors along with anyone else that remains. [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 9:24]
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:23 - Apr 21 with 621 views | MrTown |
Probably two in my opinion that are right now good enough to be in a promotion side - Downes & KVY (needs to show sustainable fitness though).
The club has been a car crash for a long time, a club that has been in decline, but the last 2 years under Lambert were nothing short of disasterous.
That can't be fixed in 6 weeks, it won't be fixed in 12 games, it won't be fixed with out at least one transfer window. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:27 - Apr 21 with 595 views | vanmunt |
I agree, Cook has walked into an unprecedented situation. Manager doesn't rate the players the players know they will be replaced end of season. The thing that has really annoyed me over the last few weeks is how little effort the players have made to win a new contract, then when Judge was released we had to feel sorry for him as he was happy in cozy Ipswich land.
If I were Cook I would bin even more off before the end of the season, Jackson performances are an absolute disgrace. |  | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:27 - Apr 21 with 593 views | Kieran_Knows |
The only issue I really have with Cook at the minute is that he's making a rod for his own back with all these comments and remarks. Some are justifiable, others not so much but given how poor he's been since he's came in, there really isn't any room for error this summer/early next season. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:29 - Apr 21 with 586 views | trncbluearmy |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:15 - Apr 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Yes, Dozzell absolutely should be kept, but IMHO, he should have to play for his place in the side next season.
But, that ball trundles by him so slowly and there's no reaction, no stretch to intercept it, no sprint to intercept it. Just throwing his hands up. I think McG thought he was putting it in to space for Dozzell, if you watch, McG looks at Doz after as if to say WTF?
And this is what's done us, individual errors all across the pitch. Woolfie missing a header totally in the second half meaning the ball dropped to a Northampton player, which lead to a near miss for example.
Look at Holy's clearance to the MIDDLE of the pitch when he's out of his goal wide on the edge of the 18 yard box. He can blame Wolfie all he likes, but why is he clearing to the middle of the pitch when he's not in his own goal to defend any returned shot?
Look how many times we were played into a corner in the full back positions, when we fannied about on the ball in defence only for Northampton to press quickly.
Dozzell will be a good player, but he needs to cut out these individual errors along with anyone else that remains. [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 9:24]
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There is so much wrong it`s hard to know were to start, which is probably PC`s get out for the shame of this season, but that aside I would love to have seen Jim`s reaction to that pass. | | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:34 - Apr 21 with 580 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 00:27 - Apr 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If you watch nothing else, watch Dozzell's reaction.
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This, for me, is the absolute sum up of where the players are at. Yes, Cook does deserve some criticism for keeping changing all the time, but seriously, i don't know what he is supposed to do with this lot.
The pass is awful, but it's Dozzells reaction. He doesn't go and chase down the ball, that is heading towards a Northampton player - he just turns back round to shout at McGuinness. Abysmal. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:40 - Apr 21 with 560 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:27 - Apr 21 by Kieran_Knows |
The only issue I really have with Cook at the minute is that he's making a rod for his own back with all these comments and remarks. Some are justifiable, others not so much but given how poor he's been since he's came in, there really isn't any room for error this summer/early next season. |
Why can't he have a room for error? Like every manager he needs a time to mould his own team. |  | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:44 - Apr 21 with 539 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:40 - Apr 21 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Why can't he have a room for error? Like every manager he needs a time to mould his own team. |
There should always be room for error otherwise you will have players taking the easy option all the time. Oh dear they already do that. | |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:55 - Apr 21 with 511 views | BiGDonnie |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 08:30 - Apr 21 by itfcjoe |
A managers first job is to get more out of what they inherit than the previous manager was getting. Those that don't do that in the first instance seldom get the chance to build their own squad, most who get that chance have earned it.
All things being equal*, Cook will get the summer and rightly so - but he is eating up so much goodwill with the fanbase and is piling so much pressure on himself to hit the ground running next year.
To put things in perspective, if in the first 12 games Cook had the very average record of W4, D4, L4 then we would be sitting in the play off positions - bearing in mind the teams we have come up against - that he hasn't even managed to get that out of the squad it's not difficult to see why some have concerns with what he is doing here, and why he is struggling (i.e. no Leam Richardson)
At some point, it becomes blind faith if you give a manager a free hit to fail
*New ownership is simply something we can't predict what they will do |
Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't win a game with this mob. Impossible task with most of them knowing they're out the door at the end of the season. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:57 - Apr 21 with 501 views | strikalite |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:34 - Apr 21 by JammyDodgerrr |
This, for me, is the absolute sum up of where the players are at. Yes, Cook does deserve some criticism for keeping changing all the time, but seriously, i don't know what he is supposed to do with this lot.
The pass is awful, but it's Dozzells reaction. He doesn't go and chase down the ball, that is heading towards a Northampton player - he just turns back round to shout at McGuinness. Abysmal. |
I must have watched it twenty times now, trying to give AD the benefit, but the more i watch it the worst it gets, firstly he's not demanding the ball quickly enough and scanning the pitch as he's doing it(think Magic and his father too), which is incredible really at this level, secondly, no reaction, that's HIS ball yet he watches it go by, there's not even much pace on the ball, it's staggering!!
Sorry, the last couple of months it saddens me to say that I've changed my view on Andre, technically he's obviously decent, but there is so much more to the game than that as we know...this is just basic academy stuff here, I mustn't watch it again, jeez..... |  | | |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 11:06 - Apr 21 with 467 views | jayessess |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 09:55 - Apr 21 by BiGDonnie |
Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't win a game with this mob. Impossible task with most of them knowing they're out the door at the end of the season. |
Lambert won 12 with them this season. |  |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 11:18 - Apr 21 with 438 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Erm no - the reason that Cook has made things substantially worse is that he is a gobby one trick pony that none of these players seem to have been able to relate to. It is highly unsual for an allegedly successful manager to come into a team doing reasonably well ('in touch with the play offs') and instantly make things substantially worse. He has totally failed to grasp what was supposed to be an opportunity - albeit having the rug whisked away by Evans doing a runner.
Add in the destabilising infulence of a deeply suspicious debt-fuelled takeover together with a manager promising to remove anybody and anybody and it is entirely predictable that the players, be they old lags, here today gone tomorrow loans, or young players hoping for a future have been somewhat overwhelmed.
Few in the real world see anything in the takeover or Cook's lower league Special One approach as good signs - but hey ho there is always next season. | |
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| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 12:17 - Apr 21 with 401 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| The reason Cook couldn't get anything out of these lot. on 11:06 - Apr 21 by jayessess |
Lambert won 12 with them this season. |
Much earlier in the season though, with most of them coming at the start. They are mentally shot at this point and other teams fitness are just way beyond us. | |
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