| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this 15:49 - May 24 with 4151 views | StokieBlue |
The US has revealed intelligence showing that 3 people working at the virus lab in Wuhan were hospitalised with C19 symptoms in November 2019.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/24/wuhan-lab-staff-reportedly-sought-ho
Not sure this helps:
A spokesman at the virology lab said in response to request for a comment from The Telegraph: "Is there any necessary connection? It's also very normal for people to go to the hospital."
Is it that normal from 3 people from a virology lab to all be hospitalised at the same time? I suspect it probably isn't that normal.
This is a pretty heavy statement from Fauci as well:
The report comes as Dr Anthony Fauci, who has led the US Covid response, says he is "not convinced" that the virus developed naturally.
Whether it's got any validity or not is going to be irrelevant, the people who want it to be true will be all over this regardless of any final evidence which is found.
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| Eat more Indian takeaways.....? on 16:30 - May 24 with 1156 views | Bloots |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:04 - May 24 by J2BLUE |
If that's confirmed, what can we do about it? Realistically. |
....that'll learn 'em. |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:32 - May 24 with 1144 views | StokieBlue |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:28 - May 24 by clive_baker |
Forgive my ignorance, but isn't it widely accepted that the Covid variant was rampant from as early as November 2019 (there was a case in France). And given the spread in Wuhan, is it surprising that 3 members of the virus lab had symptoms? I don't get why that suggests it started there, rather than the market? |
That is a good point.
As I stated, I am not sure this is a particularly helpful article or that the statement from Fauci was helpful unless he has more information which isn't being shared.
You are right that there are suspected cases from France in November 2019 although that's not been fully confirmed. I guess it would also depend when in November.
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:33 - May 24 with 1137 views | Lord_Lucan |
When I mentioned ages ago that I thought that the virus came from the Wuhan virus lab I was poo pooed! |  |
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| I think that is a superb suggestion. on 16:34 - May 24 with 1121 views | footers |
| Eat more Indian takeaways.....? on 16:30 - May 24 by Bloots |
....that'll learn 'em. |
Bloots for PM. |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:34 - May 24 with 1117 views | SpruceMoose |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:32 - May 24 by StokieBlue |
That is a good point.
As I stated, I am not sure this is a particularly helpful article or that the statement from Fauci was helpful unless he has more information which isn't being shared.
You are right that there are suspected cases from France in November 2019 although that's not been fully confirmed. I guess it would also depend when in November.
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I'm actually rather surprised that Fauci was permitted to come out and make comments that drifted away from public health matters and into areas which have implications regarding foreign diplomacy. I can't help but feel he has overstepped his remit here, unless he spoke with the full backing of the Biden government. [Post edited 24 May 2021 16:35]
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:37 - May 24 with 1109 views | bluelagos |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:33 - May 24 by Lord_Lucan |
When I mentioned ages ago that I thought that the virus came from the Wuhan virus lab I was poo pooed! |
When this is all done, there won't be many people who won't have made poor judgements/arguments at some point Lucan.
When it's people on message boards, it's a bit less serious mind :-) |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:41 - May 24 with 1071 views | 26_Paz |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:14 - May 24 by StokieBlue |
I suspect it's just about the only thing that would get a large block of Western countries to impose some hefty sanctions.
If it's true (big IF) then it means China knew all about this from at least last November, they knew the origin and they knew the cause yet they said nothing. They could have given the world the genetic code in November 2019 and the first wave could have been severely stunted and there would have been virtually no second wave as everyone would have been vaccinated.
I'm pretty worried about this. The WSJ need to be right about this because it's a huge thing to be printing if they aren't sure. It's debatable whether printing it actually helps although some might say that it's about time the world turned it's eyes to a state like China instead of ignoring the issues.
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From memory didn’t China share the genetic code pretty quickly? And at the time everyone was like ‘wow, they worked that out pretty quick’. This could be how they worked it out so quickly ... |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:45 - May 24 with 1071 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:37 - May 24 by bluelagos |
When this is all done, there won't be many people who won't have made poor judgements/arguments at some point Lucan.
When it's people on message boards, it's a bit less serious mind :-) |
Exactly BL
On a serious note though, I still don't understand why The Wuhan virus laboratory was dismissed.
I can understand worldwide governments in a way but I am struggling to comprehend that a gaggle of TW4TDS could dismiss it. [Post edited 24 May 2021 16:58]
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:50 - May 24 with 1050 views | footers |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:41 - May 24 by 26_Paz |
From memory didn’t China share the genetic code pretty quickly? And at the time everyone was like ‘wow, they worked that out pretty quick’. This could be how they worked it out so quickly ... |
Well, if their labs had been working on researching C19 it's pretty obvious they'd already have that to hand. | |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:54 - May 24 with 1041 views | 26_Paz |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:50 - May 24 by footers |
Well, if their labs had been working on researching C19 it's pretty obvious they'd already have that to hand. |
That was kind of the point I was making! | |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:55 - May 24 with 1036 views | footers |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:54 - May 24 by 26_Paz |
That was kind of the point I was making! |
Blond moment!
I need a lie down. | |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:57 - May 24 with 1043 views | RegencyBlue |
I’ve always thought that it was stretching coincidence considerably that this virus spontaneously crossed from animals to humans a mile or so down the road from a laboratory which has been studying coronavirus for years!
Having said that we are never going to know 100% because the Chinese have had at least a year and a half to cover things up if what is being alleged is true. |  | | |
| There's absolutely nothing suspicious that..... on 17:01 - May 24 with 1018 views | Bloots |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:45 - May 24 by Lord_Lucan |
Exactly BL
On a serious note though, I still don't understand why The Wuhan virus laboratory was dismissed.
I can understand worldwide governments in a way but I am struggling to comprehend that a gaggle of TW4TDS could dismiss it. [Post edited 24 May 2021 16:58]
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.....the city where the virus was first detected was also home to a virology lab claiming to be a "world leader in the study of bat coronaviruses".
Absolutely nothing.
Nothing at all. | |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 20:51 - May 24 with 911 views | factual_blue |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:24 - May 24 by SpruceMoose |
Seeing as the unwashed yokels out in the heartland are so hesitant to get vaccinated and keep passing Covid around amongst themselves, expect the arrival of the Redneck Variant any day now. |
Have you got a moose-related snake oil Covid cure for Redneck Variant that you could peddle to the crackers for, say $149.99?
Just tell 'em trumpy swears by it. |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 23:06 - May 24 with 848 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:10 - May 24 by StokieBlue |
I wouldn't say it would be for biological warfare, it's simply not "mean" enough. What advanced countries already have knocks the socks of C19 if you actually want to kill people.
This is pure speculation but if they were messing about with it I would assume it was purely for research purposes and they just had extremely lax controls and it somehow infected some of the lab workers.
Let's be clear though, that is total speculation.
If that was the case then the issue is around controls and safety but I doubt the other countries of the world are going to be too concerned about the how's and why's given the deaths and total closure of their economies.
China obviously can't confirm it now either even if it was true after spending 1.5 years saying it definitely wasn't the case.
The WSJ better be right about this because it's going to cause some pretty big issues.
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I wouldn’t say it’s not mean enough. The impact FAR exceeds that of any agents that we’d normally associate with biological warfare. It’s more subtle, but has had a much greater reach as a result.
Totally agree it would be a massive jump to assuming that’s what they wanted. For a start, if manufactured they’d probably have know it was too risky to try and control.
Interesting stuff though. As you say, it’s absolutely huge if there’s any basis to these claims. Game changing huge probably. |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 23:15 - May 26 with 673 views | StokieBlue |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 23:06 - May 24 by Swansea_Blue |
I wouldn’t say it’s not mean enough. The impact FAR exceeds that of any agents that we’d normally associate with biological warfare. It’s more subtle, but has had a much greater reach as a result.
Totally agree it would be a massive jump to assuming that’s what they wanted. For a start, if manufactured they’d probably have know it was too risky to try and control.
Interesting stuff though. As you say, it’s absolutely huge if there’s any basis to these claims. Game changing huge probably. |
Missed this.
Well I guess it depends on the aims, biological agents are usually more targeted and far more lethal as you want to control their spread/area of effect. This certainly has a greater reach but is far less lethal. If it was being engineered the mortality rate could be far higher whilst still being effective as the R is so high and it's passed on quickly.
Given this it doesn't look like a weapon but certainly could be a research project.
Biden has just given the US intelligence agencies 90 days to get to the bottom of C19's origins.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57260009
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 00:26 - May 27 with 632 views | textbackup |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:03 - May 24 by SpruceMoose |
Completely, it's just frightening to think what the knuckledraggers will do with it. This will just convince them that they, and Trump, were right all along to be targeting Asian people (as a whole) for being responsible for the last year and a half. [Post edited 24 May 2021 16:04]
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if they feel under threat they are all welcome to stay in my garden, because if it wasn't for lockdown 1 I wouldn't have got that finished. so its a thank you to them and their people from me |  |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 00:38 - May 27 with 625 views | textbackup |
pick up chicken balls? we got Deliveroo in Ipswich now, so mine get delivered by a polish bloke normally.
and a very friendly chap he is too.
oh and on the links, yeah, Americans are the weirdest of the weird | |
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| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 01:00 - May 27 with 615 views | XYZ |
If this is true, one wonders where the CIA and MI6 were in real-time .
Probably bugging Corbyn, given their history. "Courgettes in NE London are having a hard year, but, sorry, no info on the virus lab in Wuhan." |  | | |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 01:49 - May 27 with 605 views | BondiBlue |
| Social media is going to go into overdrive about this on 16:03 - May 24 by SpruceMoose |
Completely, it's just frightening to think what the knuckledraggers will do with it. This will just convince them that they, and Trump, were right all along to be targeting Asian people (as a whole) for being responsible for the last year and a half. [Post edited 24 May 2021 16:04]
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I heard the lab was jointly chinese/american funded. If it was a lab leak, the lesson should surely be that lab technicians the world over should be more careful when handling viruses, not that we need to fight china. | |
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