| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' 13:00 - Jun 1 with 3683 views | monty_radio |
This sounds powerful, but I can't quite see what it's aimed at. Clearly he's not saying we won't be like Brentford, and probably he's warning off freeloaders. But in a first-day speech of a man said not to be given to flannel, what scenario does he actually have in mind here? |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:02 - Jun 1 with 3159 views | portmanking |
I took it that the club is looking to build a squad that can not only compete in League One but the Championship and beyond? | | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:02 - Jun 1 with 3121 views | chrismakin |
I wandered if he means no more loans? |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:03 - Jun 1 with 3118 views | tractorboy1978 |
A squad of players that buy into the project and want to grow with the club I imagine. As you say though, be interested to hear what context that was said in. | | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:07 - Jun 1 with 3034 views | jayessess |
In the context EADT put it I read it as meaning "we're not going to sign 21-year-olds who have one good season and then sell them, we'll be signing peak age players who play their best football for us"? |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:12 - Jun 1 with 2887 views | monty_radio |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:07 - Jun 1 by jayessess |
In the context EADT put it I read it as meaning "we're not going to sign 21-year-olds who have one good season and then sell them, we'll be signing peak age players who play their best football for us"? |
I like the sound of that, but it seems a liitle optimistic if the financial limitations placed upon us prove as limiting as they could be. | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:16 - Jun 1 with 2807 views | jayessess |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:12 - Jun 1 by monty_radio |
I like the sound of that, but it seems a liitle optimistic if the financial limitations placed upon us prove as limiting as they could be. |
from everything we've heard, "optimistic" very much defines our transfer strategy this Summer. | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:22 - Jun 1 with 2709 views | chrismakin |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:07 - Jun 1 by jayessess |
In the context EADT put it I read it as meaning "we're not going to sign 21-year-olds who have one good season and then sell them, we'll be signing peak age players who play their best football for us"? |
what do you think Jayes - 25 plus, or late 20's? | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:23 - Jun 1 with 2687 views | SmithersJones |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:07 - Jun 1 by jayessess |
In the context EADT put it I read it as meaning "we're not going to sign 21-year-olds who have one good season and then sell them, we'll be signing peak age players who play their best football for us"? |
Interesting. The likes of Peterborough and Brentford actively market themselves as what might be termed a "stop off for players to go onto other clubs", ie "sign for us and your career will benefit". There's always lots of focus on a manager's ability to buy well, but for most clubs selling well is equally important. | | | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:25 - Jun 1 with 2630 views | istanblue |
He wants players that are committed and will be here for the long-term. Hopefully the days of loans and journeymen are over. |  | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:27 - Jun 1 with 2587 views | jayessess |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:22 - Jun 1 by chrismakin |
what do you think Jayes - 25 plus, or late 20's? |
23 to 30 is when you'd expect most to play their best football, I guess. Which fits with the more serious sounding player links. | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:01 - Jun 1 with 2245 views | monty_radio |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 13:16 - Jun 1 by jayessess |
from everything we've heard, "optimistic" very much defines our transfer strategy this Summer. |
On the scale of cynical to hopeful where does your quoting of "optimistic" sit for you? | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:18 - Jun 1 with 2094 views | Ryorry |
Didn't hear him, but at my most optimistic I like to think it'll mean we don't sell players of Tyrone Mings' quality when we've found & helped develop them! |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:21 - Jun 1 with 2068 views | chicoazul |
Of course it is. We are literally a division three club. But I think I know what he means; no more squatters on contracts waiting for the next club. |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:23 - Jun 1 with 2038 views | chrismakin |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:18 - Jun 1 by Ryorry |
Didn't hear him, but at my most optimistic I like to think it'll mean we don't sell players of Tyrone Mings' quality when we've found & helped develop them! |
It's interesting as it's almost the opposite to what he did at Bristol, and you'd think with the ownership we have, it would almost be more likely we would be involved in high/quick sells when possible. | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:27 - Jun 1 with 2007 views | jeera |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:21 - Jun 1 by chicoazul |
Of course it is. We are literally a division three club. But I think I know what he means; no more squatters on contracts waiting for the next club. |
Quite. It simply reads [to me] he won't tolerate people taking the piss.
Which is fine. |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:27 - Jun 1 with 2005 views | jayessess |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:01 - Jun 1 by monty_radio |
On the scale of cynical to hopeful where does your quoting of "optimistic" sit for you? |
I'm still hopeful, with a soupçon of concerned | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:37 - Jun 1 with 1908 views | itfcjoe |
I don't think that means anything personally - if we get good offers we'll sell as any football club in the land bar the top 2 or 3.
Recruitment is the most important part of football, without good recruitment you go nowhere - whether that is the U9s into the academy or high profile first team signings.
Ashotn has a very good recruitment record in turns of net transfer spend etc, Cook has a very good record at spotting players and getting the best out of them.
We just have to hope those 2 strengths can combine and we nail our recruitment over next few windows - if we do everything else will fall into place. |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:37 - Jun 1 with 1900 views | HARRY10 |
Rather silly comment.
We do not have the financial clout to stop players from moving on (up), and I would be concerned if we were signing players who though L1 was their highest aspiration. Something that seems to have been all too frequent over the past few years.
I might suggest that Ashton and others slow down with the promises, so as to avoid putting up 'hostages to fortune' and stick with the line that they will be bustin' a gut' to greatly improve things and 'judge us next May' ......etc | | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:45 - Jun 1 with 1836 views | ElderGrizzly |
I'd imagine if we can repeat the Brentford trick of buy and sell our new owners and particularly their backers will be ecstatic.
Because they need to make a profit and it is through player sales or promotion to the PL. |  | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:51 - Jun 1 with 1796 views | Churchman |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:27 - Jun 1 by jeera |
Quite. It simply reads [to me] he won't tolerate people taking the piss.
Which is fine. |
That’s how I read it and if that’s the case, bring it on. |  | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 15:15 - Jun 1 with 1680 views | Guthrum |
Perhaps that we're looking to sign players who want to be part of an Ipswich Town project going forwards, who want to stay with the club and help it rise through the divisions. Not seeing us as just a shop window where they can continually flirt with other suitors, look for transfer opportunities and try to force them through. |  |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 17:12 - Jun 1 with 1497 views | braveblue |
Think he is trying to say that it will be different from what we have suffered for a decade. | | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 17:16 - Jun 1 with 1488 views | jayessess |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 15:15 - Jun 1 by Guthrum |
Perhaps that we're looking to sign players who want to be part of an Ipswich Town project going forwards, who want to stay with the club and help it rise through the divisions. Not seeing us as just a shop window where they can continually flirt with other suitors, look for transfer opportunities and try to force them through. |
Can't think of any players who have successfully used Ipswich Town as a "shop window" over the past 3 seasons. | |
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| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 17:32 - Jun 1 with 1462 views | HARRY10 |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 14:45 - Jun 1 by ElderGrizzly |
I'd imagine if we can repeat the Brentford trick of buy and sell our new owners and particularly their backers will be ecstatic.
Because they need to make a profit and it is through player sales or promotion to the PL. |
In the PL nothing can really be made unless nothing extra is spent bar promotion bonuses and increased wages - and what is left will merely cover what it costs to get there.
It is player sales where the money is made | | | |
| Ashton - "This is not a stop-off for players to go onto other clubs' on 17:53 - Jun 1 with 488 views | jontysnut |
Hopefully it means that PC won't be getting in his old mates from Pompey and Wigan before they eventually progress to Altrincham and Eastleigh. |  | | |
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