| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. 09:13 - Jun 3 with 9258 views | Dubtractor |
Taking the knee getting both barrels this morning.
I despair of the fact he represents my town. |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 11:48 - Jun 3 with 1257 views | galacticoblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 10:31 - Jun 3 by GavTWTD |
I realise I may upset a few here but I would like an end to taking the knee. I know, I know. I think it should be replaced by something else, continually, frequently. Doing the same thing all the time doesn't have enough impact in my opinion. It doesn't enrage me, I just feel it isn't enough any more.
Also, having an automated BLM message on sky annoys me. it's just something that is programmed in like a sponsorship message. It has no soul. |
I completely agree with you - it is now a pointless gesture that only serves to make people angry. |  | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 11:50 - Jun 3 with 1264 views | SpruceMoose |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 11:48 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
I completely agree with you - it is now a pointless gesture that only serves to make people angry. |
Why are they angry though? |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 11:56 - Jun 3 with 1249 views | Guthrum |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 10:31 - Jun 3 by GavTWTD |
I realise I may upset a few here but I would like an end to taking the knee. I know, I know. I think it should be replaced by something else, continually, frequently. Doing the same thing all the time doesn't have enough impact in my opinion. It doesn't enrage me, I just feel it isn't enough any more.
Also, having an automated BLM message on sky annoys me. it's just something that is programmed in like a sponsorship message. It has no soul. |
Altho the fact it is still provoking a reaction suggests it has retained its effectiveness for now. When it just results in a round of polite applause, then it has lost its impact.
But, equally, it is not enough on its own. You don't win a war by fighting just one battle. |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:03 - Jun 3 with 1217 views | footers |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 11:50 - Jun 3 by SpruceMoose |
Why are they angry though? |
Because thirty seconds is a major inconvenience or something? |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:11 - Jun 3 with 1195 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 10:16 - Jun 3 by lowhouseblue |
but discussing how best to display opposition to discrimination isn't inherently racist. it seems to me to be entirely up to the players - particulalry those who suffer abuse online. but it does seem interesting that cricket is going a different way. or perhaps cricket is just wrong. |
You may question its effectiveness but it is not a divisive political gesture ( unless you want to be divisive ). It's possible cricket just chose a different way to register the same sentiment. There is no wrong way to peacefully oppose racism. |  | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:15 - Jun 3 with 1186 views | keighleyblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 09:16 - Jun 3 by footers |
If you want to be really depressed, pop over to the ITFC Insta page and look at the comments on the Pride Month story. Sad to see we have so many bigots and morons in our fanbase. And yes, there was a 'when is it Straight Pride month?' posted unironically.
Whatever happened to having basic human decency towards each other? |
The only conclusion to draw would be that a chunk of our population have no basic human decency |  | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:37 - Jun 3 with 1129 views | galacticoblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 11:50 - Jun 3 by SpruceMoose |
Why are they angry though? |
because there are 2 sides to the argument as to whether to continue or not with an initially well intended gesture that started a long time ago.
You may have noticed - when people disagree, esp on social media and forums, anger usually ensues. | | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:40 - Jun 3 with 1137 views | Herbivore |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:37 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
because there are 2 sides to the argument as to whether to continue or not with an initially well intended gesture that started a long time ago.
You may have noticed - when people disagree, esp on social media and forums, anger usually ensues. |
What are these two sides? Those making a gesture against racism and those doing what.....? |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:42 - Jun 3 with 1114 views | galacticoblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:40 - Jun 3 by Herbivore |
What are these two sides? Those making a gesture against racism and those doing what.....? |
...."as to whether to continue or not" | | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:42 - Jun 3 with 1127 views | footers |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:15 - Jun 3 by keighleyblue |
The only conclusion to draw would be that a chunk of our population have no basic human decency |
I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt and say they're just kids trying to get some social media clout by being edgy, but it's very difficult to tell these days what's trolling and what are Very Real Concerns. | |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:44 - Jun 3 with 1118 views | Herbivore |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:42 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
...."as to whether to continue or not" |
Hmmmm. | |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:44 - Jun 3 with 1112 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:42 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
...."as to whether to continue or not" |
So what's the argument in support of the "not" then? |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:48 - Jun 3 with 1088 views | galacticoblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:44 - Jun 3 by Ewan_Oozami |
So what's the argument in support of the "not" then? |
... that is lost its impact and only serves to make people angry .... maybe? | | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:51 - Jun 3 with 1087 views | leitrimblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:48 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
... that is lost its impact and only serves to make people angry .... maybe? |
Why would any attempt to promote equality make people angry? |  | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:52 - Jun 3 with 1083 views | itfcjoe |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:48 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
... that is lost its impact and only serves to make people angry .... maybe? |
You surely can't stop doing a simple gesture because people get angry by it? SUrely the fact they are getting angry shows it hasn't lost it's impact.... |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:01 - Jun 3 with 1061 views | BlueBadger |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 09:24 - Jun 3 by SitfcB |
Looks like the admin has deleted all those. |
YET MORE BULLYING OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:01 - Jun 3 with 1062 views | m14_blue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 10:26 - Jun 3 by lowhouseblue |
discussing taking the knee isn't the same as being a racist. the policing the choice of gestures seems very unhealthy - which every direction you do it from.
based on the posts in this thread i thought he had said something much worse. |
The only person trying to police anything is Hunt though.
Everyone else is just saying the players should be able to do what they want, without fear of being booed by their own supporters or criticised by their elected representatives.
No one's suggesting Hunt should be forced to take the knee before a debate in the commons. | | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:04 - Jun 3 with 1045 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:01 - Jun 3 by m14_blue |
The only person trying to police anything is Hunt though.
Everyone else is just saying the players should be able to do what they want, without fear of being booed by their own supporters or criticised by their elected representatives.
No one's suggesting Hunt should be forced to take the knee before a debate in the commons. |
Hung needs to take a knee where it hurts. |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:04 - Jun 3 with 1038 views | galacticoblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:52 - Jun 3 by itfcjoe |
You surely can't stop doing a simple gesture because people get angry by it? SUrely the fact they are getting angry shows it hasn't lost it's impact.... |
the point is that the debate about what the gesture now means is making people angry [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 13:05]
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:04 - Jun 3 with 1048 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:51 - Jun 3 by leitrimblue |
Why would any attempt to promote equality make people angry? |
Well quite so. And what are these people angry about exactly? |  |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:06 - Jun 3 with 1034 views | itfcjoe |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:04 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
the point is that the debate about what the gesture now means is making people angry [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 13:05]
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Because there is a disingeuity from hunt and his lot about Marxism and similar buzz words.
People are doing it, it doesn't affect anyone bar delaying a game for literally 4-5 seconds - if that is making people angry then it says more about them
If people were being forced to do it, or something else, then I could get it | |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:07 - Jun 3 with 1032 views | eireblue |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:04 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
the point is that the debate about what the gesture now means is making people angry [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 13:05]
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When you say people, I am not sure who you mean.
I think what we really need is someone that is actually angry to represent this view point.
At the moment you claim people are angry, so something should change, because of those people.
Really what we need is someone that is angry to explain their position, why they are angry, and then we can engage with that.
Unless you are personally angry, I am not sure you can represent those that are angry. |  | | |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:10 - Jun 3 with 1022 views | Herbivore |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 12:48 - Jun 3 by galacticoblue |
... that is lost its impact and only serves to make people angry .... maybe? |
The people who are angry about a peaceful gesture highlighting the issue of racism don't really have a valid argument. They should reflect on why it makes them angry rather than demanding that people stop. This is sailing pretty close to victim blaming to be honest. | |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:11 - Jun 3 with 1011 views | footers |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:06 - Jun 3 by itfcjoe |
Because there is a disingeuity from hunt and his lot about Marxism and similar buzz words.
People are doing it, it doesn't affect anyone bar delaying a game for literally 4-5 seconds - if that is making people angry then it says more about them
If people were being forced to do it, or something else, then I could get it |
Most of the people who get angry about Marxism have zero clue what Marxism actually is - they're just parroting what they think are high falutin' words and concepts. If you ask any of them what Marxism actually is, they usually just say 'Russia' or 'Stalin' or similar. | |
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| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:13 - Jun 3 with 1003 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| I see our turd of a local mp is stoking the culture war again. on 13:11 - Jun 3 by footers |
Most of the people who get angry about Marxism have zero clue what Marxism actually is - they're just parroting what they think are high falutin' words and concepts. If you ask any of them what Marxism actually is, they usually just say 'Russia' or 'Stalin' or similar. |
I thought it was a slavish devotion to a particular high street brand. | |
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