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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' 15:57 - Jun 4 with 3311 viewsFixed_It

Apparently that is the term Stonewall want employers to use.
Discuss.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:01 - Jun 4 with 1699 viewsclive_baker

Why do employers need that information at all?

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:02 - Jun 4 with 1695 viewsHerbivore

Don't really have an issue with it.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:05 - Jun 4 with 1667 viewsFixed_It

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:02 - Jun 4 by Herbivore

Don't really have an issue with it.


Maybe not. But do you have an issue with the term 'mother'?

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:06 - Jun 4 with 1666 viewspointofblue

Makes sense. More intrigued about how they’re planning to replace the word “Father”.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 16:07 - Jun 4 with 1649 viewsFixed_It

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:02 - Jun 4 by Herbivore

Don't really have an issue with it.



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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:07 - Jun 4 with 1649 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Maybe before shifting the terms, they should work towards given Fathers better Paternity leave. Two weeks is just not enough.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:08 - Jun 4 with 1637 viewsbrogansnose

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:06 - Jun 4 by pointofblue

Makes sense. More intrigued about how they’re planning to replace the word “Father”.


Sperm donor.
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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:08 - Jun 4 with 1640 viewsFixed_It

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:06 - Jun 4 by pointofblue

Makes sense. More intrigued about how they’re planning to replace the word “Father”.


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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:08 - Jun 4 with 1632 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Which is highly discriminatory against adoptive mothers who are unable to give birth.
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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:09 - Jun 4 with 1616 viewsHerbivore

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:05 - Jun 4 by Fixed_It

Maybe not. But do you have an issue with the term 'mother'?


Personally I don't, but I can see why an organisation that is invovled with LGBTQ campaigning would prefer that non-gendered language is used where possible.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:10 - Jun 4 with 1610 viewsHerbivore

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:06 - Jun 4 by pointofblue

Makes sense. More intrigued about how they’re planning to replace the word “Father”.


Parent.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:11 - Jun 4 with 1604 viewsfooters

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:08 - Jun 4 by ArnoldMoorhen

Which is highly discriminatory against adoptive mothers who are unable to give birth.


And to those of us who were inseminated in bodies of still water.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:11 - Jun 4 with 1596 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:06 - Jun 4 by pointofblue

Makes sense. More intrigued about how they’re planning to replace the word “Father”.


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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:13 - Jun 4 with 1596 viewsDanTheMan


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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:21 - Jun 4 with 1504 viewsFixed_It

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:09 - Jun 4 by Herbivore

Personally I don't, but I can see why an organisation that is invovled with LGBTQ campaigning would prefer that non-gendered language is used where possible.


Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but personally I think it is fecking ridiculous.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:23 - Jun 4 with 1491 viewsWickhamsLeftBoot

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:07 - Jun 4 by JammyDodgerrr

Maybe before shifting the terms, they should work towards given Fathers better Paternity leave. Two weeks is just not enough.


Parental leave in Alberta is up to 62 weeks.
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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:25 - Jun 4 with 1478 viewsArnoldMoorhen

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:06 - Jun 4 by pointofblue

Makes sense. More intrigued about how they’re planning to replace the word “Father”.


I would prefer "Hotstepper", or, informally, "Lyrical Gangster".

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:25 - Jun 4 with 1480 viewsHerbivore

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:21 - Jun 4 by Fixed_It

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but personally I think it is fecking ridiculous.


In what way does it impact you? It's telling that the right wing press seem to have jumped on it to try and whip up outrage when in reality it's a bit of a non-story isn't it? LGBTQ organisation suggests employers use LGBTQ-friendly language. Not really much to see here, is there?

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:27 - Jun 4 with 1443 viewsnodge_blue

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:23 - Jun 4 by WickhamsLeftBoot

Parental leave in Alberta is up to 62 weeks.


Aviva where I used to work gave 6 months paid leave to dads. Which I think is a great incentive to have lots of kids. Theres a whole career there.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:29 - Jun 4 with 1432 viewsArnoldMoorhen

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:25 - Jun 4 by ArnoldMoorhen

I would prefer "Hotstepper", or, informally, "Lyrical Gangster".

And this shall be my theme tune, to be played whenever I enter a room so that people know how I self-identify:



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I think that's the fastest ever down vote I've received. Can only assume a massive racist doesn't like Black Artists receiving royalties for streams...
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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:29 - Jun 4 with 1435 viewsfactual_blue

Like most charities/pressure groups etc, Stonewall most of all want to get their name out there.

They've just done that.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:29 - Jun 4 with 1430 viewsJammyDodgerrr

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:23 - Jun 4 by WickhamsLeftBoot

Parental leave in Alberta is up to 62 weeks.


That's amazing. Think more companies should shift towards Aviva model where both parents can take six months if they want. I would settle for three months.

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:31 - Jun 4 with 1417 viewsgiant_stow

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:21 - Jun 4 by Fixed_It

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but personally I think it is fecking ridiculous.


me too, but then I'm not undertsanding what's wrong with 'mother'? Only biological women can give birth so what's wrong with a gender specific term?

Is it a fear of offending former women / now men, who've given birth?

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'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:33 - Jun 4 with 1401 viewsfooters

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:31 - Jun 4 by giant_stow

me too, but then I'm not undertsanding what's wrong with 'mother'? Only biological women can give birth so what's wrong with a gender specific term?

Is it a fear of offending former women / now men, who've given birth?


That seems to be the idea. But, as Herb says, it's an LGBTQ pressure group pushing for something that's likely never going to happen - but it just gives the red tops something to get all po-faced over for a couple of days before everyone forgets it ever happened.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 16:34 - Jun 4 with 1393 viewsFixed_It

'Person who has given birth' instead of 'mother' on 16:09 - Jun 4 by Herbivore

Personally I don't, but I can see why an organisation that is invovled with LGBTQ campaigning would prefer that non-gendered language is used where possible.



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