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Proper National Treasures 05:37 - Oct 7 with 7126 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Was just thinking the other day when John Challis died (RIP) how David Jason is probably one of the biggest nationals treasure in Britain and it got me thinking who else would be on this list of say 10 people.

I’ve got these so far on my imaginary list:
- Sir David Jason
- Sir David Attenborough
- Sir Elton John
- Dame Helen Mirren
- Dame Judi Dench
- Dame Maggie Smith


And then on the ‘potentials’ list that didn’t quite make the cut but probably worth consideration:
- Ant and Dec
- Sir Tom Jones
- Colin Firth
- Sir Paul McCartney
- Stephen Fry
- Mary Berry
- David Lloyd (AKA Bumble)


Who else do we reckon is a genuine national treasure?
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Proper National Treasures on 20:38 - Oct 7 with 1033 viewsMerseyBlue

Proper National Treasures on 20:16 - Oct 7 by GlasgowBlue

Good shout. Seeing JCC in Edinburgh soon.


That should be excellent, hopefully one day I will get around to seeing him

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Proper National Treasures on 20:39 - Oct 7 with 1029 viewsHerbivore

Noel Fielding.

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Proper National Treasures on 20:52 - Oct 7 with 1008 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Proper National Treasures on 19:25 - Oct 7 by GlasgowBlue

Cliff Richard init.

If you had posted this 12 years ago somebody would have suggested Jimmy Savile.


Well Harry mentioned Prince Andrew so I suppose that’s close enough

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Proper National Treasures on 21:54 - Oct 7 with 966 viewsMelford

Proper National Treasures on 10:39 - Oct 7 by BlueandTruesince82

There is bit more to that case than the outcome.

An admission to a friend of having made up the case and tbe contact to a solicitor offering to drop the case for 150k rather muddies the waters


If we're talking about Sir Geoffrey here, he's not a wife-beater because the woman involved wasn't his wife. The whole conviction was a complete stitch-up.

According to Boycott, Moore had grown angry when he refused to marry her, stating that "he was not the marrying kind" and had fallen when throwing his clothing from the window, hitting her head on the carpet.[181] When he again appealed against his conviction, Moore's version of events that Boycott had attacked her by punching her in the face, causing bruising, was upheld, in the light of photographs of her injuries shown to the court and the testimony of a doctor that the injuries could not have been caused in the way described by Boycott.[182][183] In 2015 an investigation by the Daily Telegraph alleged that Moore had admitted to a friend she had slipped on a marble floor and hit her head, causing the injury she later claimed was caused by Boycott. The newspaper also discovered that Boycott's solicitor had been contacted by a representative of Moore, suggesting that the allegation would be dropped if he paid her £150,000. Boycott refused to pay the sum demanded, stating he "considered it to be blackmail”. A separate incident documented in court papers also revealled Moore's barrister had demanded £1million from Boycott in return for her silence. Moore's lack of honesty has also been documented in other court cases relating to her business, when Mr Registrar James made a bankruptcy order against her he noted "a deliberate lack of truthfulness” in her evidence.[184][185]

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Proper National Treasures on 22:19 - Oct 7 with 937 viewsBlueNote

Alan Bennett

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Proper National Treasures on 22:35 - Oct 7 with 923 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Proper National Treasures on 18:12 - Oct 7 by BlueandTruesince82

Are we allowed to claim Toksvig and Gambaccini?


Of course.

Sandi is one of the Harrogate Toksvigs, proper old English family, been here for centuries. Nice people but terrible cheats at cribbage.
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Proper National Treasures on 22:54 - Oct 7 with 909 viewsMelford

Probably our greatest living modern artist. Bridget Riley.
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/bridget-riley-1845

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/oct/22/bridget-riley-review-haywar
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Proper National Treasures on 22:56 - Oct 7 with 902 viewsGlasgowBlue

Proper National Treasures on 22:19 - Oct 7 by BlueNote

Alan Bennett

I can't believe he hasn't Bern mentioned?


I honestly thought he was dead. Glad to see he's still doing.

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Proper National Treasures on 00:16 - Oct 8 with 881 viewsCoastalblue

Going to add some more

Frank Bruno
Michael Parkinson
Patrick Stewart

I think if it wasn't for his coach Mo Farah would definitely have the status now even at a young age.

Johnny Wilkinson possibly if you're English?

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Proper National Treasures on 05:49 - Oct 8 with 849 viewswkj

Proper National Treasures on 12:02 - Oct 7 by BlueandTruesince82

It's about evidence..... People can be vindictive, people lie. Now I personally am far more inclined to belive someone who didn't ask for a load of cash to drop the case, even more so when a friend of theirs was told they had made it up

As someone who has has seen the damage that kind of violence can do I feel pretty sure that very few people would agree to offer to drop a case of that nature for any amout of money.


The evidence was assessed by a court and a court of appeals - so you're quite right.. It is about evidence. Convicted by a court of law, disgusting woman beater.

Was it not you who also casually enjoyed the reference of women as b**ches? - If so, I am hardly shocked at you taking the victim-blaming route.
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Proper National Treasures on 07:51 - Oct 8 with 804 viewsHerbivore

Frankie Boyle
Rosie Jones
Romesh Ranganathan

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Proper National Treasures on 08:19 - Oct 8 with 791 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Proper National Treasures on 05:49 - Oct 8 by wkj

The evidence was assessed by a court and a court of appeals - so you're quite right.. It is about evidence. Convicted by a court of law, disgusting woman beater.

Was it not you who also casually enjoyed the reference of women as b**ches? - If so, I am hardly shocked at you taking the victim-blaming route.
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I think if you follow all the above I'm quite clear in my reasoning

If i think someone is a bitch I call them one, If I think someone is a dick I call them one, simple and fair. Guess where I'm leaning on this occasion

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Proper National Treasures on 08:32 - Oct 8 with 787 viewsblueasfook

Proper National Treasures on 09:51 - Oct 7 by BlueandTruesince82

If Macca makes the list then Keef 100% has too.

Ant n Dec no. They're not Morcambe and Wise yet.

Brian Blessed should absolutely be on that list
Geoff Boycott
Shirley Bassey
Ian Mckellin


Lol, Ant & Dec would NEVER be Morecambe and Wise.

They are not even comparable!

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Proper National Treasures on 08:40 - Oct 8 with 774 viewsblueasfook

David Gilmour? Bit of a leftie though

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Proper National Treasures on 08:32 - Oct 8 by blueasfook

Lol, Ant & Dec would NEVER be Morecambe and Wise.

They are not even comparable!


Which calls to mind Eric's answer to the question, What would you and Ernie have been if you weren’t comedians?
“Mike and Bernie Winters”.

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Proper National Treasures on 08:57 - Oct 8 with 754 viewsGlasgowBlue

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Frankie Boyle
Rosie Jones
Romesh Ranganathan


I dint see how a man with a history of regularly making comments mocking the disabled can be considered a national treasure.

Don’t know enough about Rosie Jones.

Romesh Ranganathan Has been around for less than ten years. I dint think he can be considered for some time.

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Proper National Treasures on 09:21 - Oct 8 with 721 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Proper National Treasures on 18:29 - Oct 7 by ArnoldMoorhen

A big yes to Benjamin Zephaniah. And in a similar vein to Lemn Sissay.

And a leftfield nomination for Alex Horne.

Others from the comedy world might include:

Rob Newman
Frank Skinner
(Julie Walters and Lenny Henry have already been mentioned, and Rob Brydon was a good shout, too)

Miles Jupp might be heading that way.


And tangential to the comedy world: does anyone else have huge love for Liza Tarbuck?

Toyah has come back into the picture recently, too...


Rob Newman?! He was funny in a few sketches back in the day but has done nothing of major note for decades. Not sure how you could call him a national treasure.

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Proper National Treasures on 09:38 - Oct 8 with 715 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Proper National Treasures on 09:21 - Oct 8 by The_Flashing_Smile

Rob Newman?! He was funny in a few sketches back in the day but has done nothing of major note for decades. Not sure how you could call him a national treasure.


He's treading a different path now. The whole "Comedy is the new Rock 'n' Roll" thing completely fcked his head up. Took some time out. Now touring small Arts Centres and proper Comedy Clubs with highly intelligent shows which bring together science and philosophy, which he then works into his own Radio 4 series'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08nkn4k/episodes/guide

Sure having your own Radio 4 series is one of the pathways to National Treasure status?
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Proper National Treasures on 09:59 - Oct 8 with 693 viewsEdwardStone

A bit left field....(Green Field)

Dale Vince

The problem

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/06/eco-anxiety-fear-of-environmenta

A person who is shining a light on the way forward


https://www.theguardian.com/football/football-league-blog/2021/oct/08/how-forest
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Proper National Treasures on 10:04 - Oct 8 with 689 viewsElephantintheRoom

The Queen? I'm sure a few people's lives might be changed when she goes - not sure about any on your list.

Bobby Charlton probably - and despite his Brexit insanity, 'Lord' Botham has made a national name for himself.

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Proper National Treasures on 10:18 - Oct 8 with 678 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Proper National Treasures on 08:57 - Oct 8 by GlasgowBlue

I dint see how a man with a history of regularly making comments mocking the disabled can be considered a national treasure.

Don’t know enough about Rosie Jones.

Romesh Ranganathan Has been around for less than ten years. I dint think he can be considered for some time.


Yep, both of those two have been around for 5 minutes. You might as well have Josh Widdecombe as a national treasure if you're going to have those two.

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Proper National Treasures on 10:22 - Oct 8 with 671 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Proper National Treasures on 09:38 - Oct 8 by ArnoldMoorhen

He's treading a different path now. The whole "Comedy is the new Rock 'n' Roll" thing completely fcked his head up. Took some time out. Now touring small Arts Centres and proper Comedy Clubs with highly intelligent shows which bring together science and philosophy, which he then works into his own Radio 4 series'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08nkn4k/episodes/guide

Sure having your own Radio 4 series is one of the pathways to National Treasure status?


He may well be doing some great stuff but if it's on a small scale and largely unknown by the populace, you can't really call him a national treasure. I love Daniel Kitson but I wouldn't have him as a national treasure for the same reasons.

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Proper National Treasures on 10:23 - Oct 8 with 670 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Proper National Treasures on 20:39 - Oct 7 by Herbivore

Noel Fielding.


Russell Brand

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Proper National Treasures on 10:38 - Oct 8 with 662 viewsGlasgowBlue

Any of the Pythons.

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Proper National Treasures on 10:40 - Oct 8 with 658 viewsHerbivore

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Any of the Pythons.


Cleese has ruled himself out by going full gammon lately.

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