| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:17 - Nov 8 with 1687 views | wkj |
Prebaked and oven-ready - Looks like Boris should have used one of his many sweeteners to replace his John Lewis microwave as well as the furniture. |  |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:18 - Nov 8 with 1687 views | noggin |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:14 - Nov 8 by footers |
Many people seem to label anything to the left of Pinochet as 'socialist' or 'Marxist' without being able to understand either term. It's actually quite worrying. |
You would say that, you bloody cultural marxist. [Post edited 8 Nov 2021 13:18]
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:32 - Nov 8 with 1628 views | chicoazul |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 10:22 - Nov 8 by BlueNomad |
Please do not refer to that buffoon by his first name - it hints at affection. |
His first name is Alexander
Boris is his brand |  |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:33 - Nov 8 with 1625 views | chicoazul |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 12:53 - Nov 8 by meekreech |
How about the aggressive bad faith from the eec ? I expect to collect a lot more down buttons simply for having a non socialist viewpoint. The problem with this site for anything other than football is it has a deeply ingrained socialist bias and a lack of toleration for anything else. That is only to be expected . |
My brother did you just accuse me of having an ingrained socialist bias | |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:35 - Nov 8 with 1621 views | noggin |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:33 - Nov 8 by chicoazul |
My brother did you just accuse me of having an ingrained socialist bias |
We call each other comrade here, comrade. | |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:52 - Nov 8 with 1577 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 11:16 - Nov 8 by meekreech |
Good thing too. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom not part of a senseless collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics. They are showing the world their might by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state. With any luck people throughout Europe will come to see they are being treated as a commodity and will eventually break free. The whole situation is shown to be run in a loaded way where one or two countries ( namely Germany and France) try to punish countries for having policies not in line with the rules but avoid the same action when they are breaking the same rules. |
Utter bollox |  | | |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:10 - Nov 8 with 1552 views | The_Major |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 11:16 - Nov 8 by meekreech |
Good thing too. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom not part of a senseless collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics. They are showing the world their might by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state. With any luck people throughout Europe will come to see they are being treated as a commodity and will eventually break free. The whole situation is shown to be run in a loaded way where one or two countries ( namely Germany and France) try to punish countries for having policies not in line with the rules but avoid the same action when they are breaking the same rules. |
Perhaps you can answer a question then please. I have asked this question to Brexit voters countless times since June 2016, and I have not once received an answer.
Now that we have left the European Union, could you please let me know what I, as the average man in the street can do now, that I could not whilst we were still a member. I am fully aware of what I CANNOT do, but not one person has explained to me what I can.
Remember, I'm asking as an individual, saying anything about controlling borders is irrelevant, as I have no control over them. |  | | |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:14 - Nov 8 with 1536 views | footers |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:10 - Nov 8 by The_Major |
Perhaps you can answer a question then please. I have asked this question to Brexit voters countless times since June 2016, and I have not once received an answer.
Now that we have left the European Union, could you please let me know what I, as the average man in the street can do now, that I could not whilst we were still a member. I am fully aware of what I CANNOT do, but not one person has explained to me what I can.
Remember, I'm asking as an individual, saying anything about controlling borders is irrelevant, as I have no control over them. |
You can enjoy your new coloured passport while you wait in line as a non-EU citizen when travelling?
I mean, I wouldn't know about all that as I've an Irish one but maybe the brave Brexiteers like it? |  |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:18 - Nov 8 with 1521 views | noggin |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:10 - Nov 8 by The_Major |
Perhaps you can answer a question then please. I have asked this question to Brexit voters countless times since June 2016, and I have not once received an answer.
Now that we have left the European Union, could you please let me know what I, as the average man in the street can do now, that I could not whilst we were still a member. I am fully aware of what I CANNOT do, but not one person has explained to me what I can.
Remember, I'm asking as an individual, saying anything about controlling borders is irrelevant, as I have no control over them. |
"Remember, I'm asking as an individual, saying anything about controlling borders is irrelevant, as I have no control over them."
That's it though, we can stop those bloody forrun lorry drivers from takin are jobs. | |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:19 - Nov 8 with 1518 views | BlueNomad |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 12:53 - Nov 8 by meekreech |
How about the aggressive bad faith from the eec ? I expect to collect a lot more down buttons simply for having a non socialist viewpoint. The problem with this site for anything other than football is it has a deeply ingrained socialist bias and a lack of toleration for anything else. That is only to be expected . |
I'm not sure what socialism has to do with this. Socialists are divided between Leave / Remain. The bottom line is that very senior, experienced politicians from both parties took opposing views.
There is not a single part of Brexit that is going well and the UK has demonstrably proved itself untrustworthy in it's dealing with both the EU (not EEC as you call it) and other states.
Left or right it is a complete mess that could yet lead to the dismantling of the UK and our credibility slipping ever further away. |  | | |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:30 - Nov 8 with 1486 views | noggin |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:19 - Nov 8 by BlueNomad |
I'm not sure what socialism has to do with this. Socialists are divided between Leave / Remain. The bottom line is that very senior, experienced politicians from both parties took opposing views.
There is not a single part of Brexit that is going well and the UK has demonstrably proved itself untrustworthy in it's dealing with both the EU (not EEC as you call it) and other states.
Left or right it is a complete mess that could yet lead to the dismantling of the UK and our credibility slipping ever further away. |
I think he's done a runner. | |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:34 - Nov 8 with 1475 views | The_Major |
I mean, you'd never find any socialists supporting Brexit - EVER!
Oh.
Well, I mean, that's Galloway for you, I mean, surely he's a one off.
Oh. Again.
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:36 - Nov 8 with 1468 views | StokieBlue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 11:16 - Nov 8 by meekreech |
Good thing too. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom not part of a senseless collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics. They are showing the world their might by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state. With any luck people throughout Europe will come to see they are being treated as a commodity and will eventually break free. The whole situation is shown to be run in a loaded way where one or two countries ( namely Germany and France) try to punish countries for having policies not in line with the rules but avoid the same action when they are breaking the same rules. |
I bet you think you can get covid from 5G towers as well.
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:41 - Nov 8 with 1453 views | factual_blue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:10 - Nov 8 by The_Major |
Perhaps you can answer a question then please. I have asked this question to Brexit voters countless times since June 2016, and I have not once received an answer.
Now that we have left the European Union, could you please let me know what I, as the average man in the street can do now, that I could not whilst we were still a member. I am fully aware of what I CANNOT do, but not one person has explained to me what I can.
Remember, I'm asking as an individual, saying anything about controlling borders is irrelevant, as I have no control over them. |
You can have a nice plate of sovereignty and chips for your supper.
And you can wave your proper British passport at damned foreigners.
What more do you want, for goodness' sake? |  |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:48 - Nov 8 with 1434 views | leitrimblue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:36 - Nov 8 by StokieBlue |
I bet you think you can get covid from 5G towers as well.
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And that '5G as decimated the spider population this spider season' (I was genuinely told this) |  | | |
| You're right on one point.... on 14:53 - Nov 8 with 1418 views | unstableblue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 11:16 - Nov 8 by meekreech |
Good thing too. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom not part of a senseless collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics. They are showing the world their might by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state. With any luck people throughout Europe will come to see they are being treated as a commodity and will eventually break free. The whole situation is shown to be run in a loaded way where one or two countries ( namely Germany and France) try to punish countries for having policies not in line with the rules but avoid the same action when they are breaking the same rules. |
... "a collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics"
The EU certainly has the clout to have a seat at the world table, a powerful player, driving trade negotiations that matter.
BUY YOU ARE SO WRONG on Brexit. In case you had noticed Brexit is an unmitigated financial and trade disaster for this country, there is no more hiding from it... the stats are out the negative outweighs the positive (i.e. trade deals with frickin Australia)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
Also this comment - "by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state" this is the problem?! did you read Macron's words or the translation in the mail?! do you know that the EU have been really trying for compromise? it is our entrenched position that cannot change - but to your point... should the EU let sausages in from Belarus without checks? what about India? or Ukraine? ITS A FECKING TRADE ZONE
Similarly - I am not in favour of a European Super State - but your mind set was taken into the negotiations... if we had gone in without the Empire, WW2 mind set of the gutter press and Tory back bench... we COULD be in such a better place.
But fundamentally.. and get your noodle round this... I WANT to be in a Euro economic zone, with freedom of movement... I want to be able to go and live and work in Spain or Italy for 6months?! I want to send my junior engineers for technical training for 3 months...
If you came to the table hating the EU, which you clearly do, then it really wasn't the right approach was it>! |  |
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 15:09 - Nov 8 with 1393 views | StokieBlue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 14:48 - Nov 8 by leitrimblue |
And that '5G as decimated the spider population this spider season' (I was genuinely told this) |
Anecdotally, it seems like every spider in the UK has moved into my garden.
Potential 5G blackspot I guess, I'll keep that in mind before I switch over.
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| You're right on one point.... on 15:30 - Nov 8 with 1355 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| You're right on one point.... on 14:53 - Nov 8 by unstableblue |
... "a collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics"
The EU certainly has the clout to have a seat at the world table, a powerful player, driving trade negotiations that matter.
BUY YOU ARE SO WRONG on Brexit. In case you had noticed Brexit is an unmitigated financial and trade disaster for this country, there is no more hiding from it... the stats are out the negative outweighs the positive (i.e. trade deals with frickin Australia)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
Also this comment - "by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state" this is the problem?! did you read Macron's words or the translation in the mail?! do you know that the EU have been really trying for compromise? it is our entrenched position that cannot change - but to your point... should the EU let sausages in from Belarus without checks? what about India? or Ukraine? ITS A FECKING TRADE ZONE
Similarly - I am not in favour of a European Super State - but your mind set was taken into the negotiations... if we had gone in without the Empire, WW2 mind set of the gutter press and Tory back bench... we COULD be in such a better place.
But fundamentally.. and get your noodle round this... I WANT to be in a Euro economic zone, with freedom of movement... I want to be able to go and live and work in Spain or Italy for 6months?! I want to send my junior engineers for technical training for 3 months...
If you came to the table hating the EU, which you clearly do, then it really wasn't the right approach was it>! |
Which would all have been possible if the UK had not decided on such a hard Brexit.The unelected bureaucrats and foreigners must be repelled. Seems the plan is to have an even harder Brexit if Article 16 to be triggered.
https://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-is-the-difference-between-a-free-trade-area-and-a-sin |  | | |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 15:30 - Nov 8 with 1354 views | Ryorry |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 13:32 - Nov 8 by chicoazul |
His first name is Alexander
Boris is his brand |
As in 'Karloff'?
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| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 15:41 - Nov 8 with 1336 views | Ryorry |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 10:41 - Nov 8 by Steve_M |
Perma-chaos as a way to keep the Tory Party together. |
The 2016 Referendum itself was only conceived as a way of keeping the corrupt Tory party together & in power, nothing whatsoever to do with possible benefits to the UK - because there never were any real, actual, potential benefits.
(Sorry Steve, I'm sure you know that - this is for Meekreech, who doesn't appear to be aware). | |
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| You're right on one point.... on 15:45 - Nov 8 with 1330 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| You're right on one point.... on 14:53 - Nov 8 by unstableblue |
... "a collection of sovereign states trying to play the part of a powerful game in world politics"
The EU certainly has the clout to have a seat at the world table, a powerful player, driving trade negotiations that matter.
BUY YOU ARE SO WRONG on Brexit. In case you had noticed Brexit is an unmitigated financial and trade disaster for this country, there is no more hiding from it... the stats are out the negative outweighs the positive (i.e. trade deals with frickin Australia)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
Also this comment - "by arguing about the delivery of sausages and such goods between parts of a sovereign state" this is the problem?! did you read Macron's words or the translation in the mail?! do you know that the EU have been really trying for compromise? it is our entrenched position that cannot change - but to your point... should the EU let sausages in from Belarus without checks? what about India? or Ukraine? ITS A FECKING TRADE ZONE
Similarly - I am not in favour of a European Super State - but your mind set was taken into the negotiations... if we had gone in without the Empire, WW2 mind set of the gutter press and Tory back bench... we COULD be in such a better place.
But fundamentally.. and get your noodle round this... I WANT to be in a Euro economic zone, with freedom of movement... I want to be able to go and live and work in Spain or Italy for 6months?! I want to send my junior engineers for technical training for 3 months...
If you came to the table hating the EU, which you clearly do, then it really wasn't the right approach was it>! |
The BBC business piece that you quote is a forecast by Richard Hughes of the OBR and does not reflect what is happening now. May I suggest you investigate his forecast made 12 months ago and compare it with reality today. He was a few billion on the pessimistic side.
Statistics of course can almost tell you whatever you want to read into them, but those who quote that Brexit will be a financial disaster might just be wrong of course.
Our economy as of now is performing better than expected. |  | | |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 15:50 - Nov 8 with 1316 views | leitrimblue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 15:09 - Nov 8 by StokieBlue |
Anecdotally, it seems like every spider in the UK has moved into my garden.
Potential 5G blackspot I guess, I'll keep that in mind before I switch over.
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Your garden may become the last place of refuge come arachnidgeddon. I just hope it's big enough | | | |
| You're right on one point.... on 15:58 - Nov 8 with 1299 views | Ryorry |
| You're right on one point.... on 15:45 - Nov 8 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
The BBC business piece that you quote is a forecast by Richard Hughes of the OBR and does not reflect what is happening now. May I suggest you investigate his forecast made 12 months ago and compare it with reality today. He was a few billion on the pessimistic side.
Statistics of course can almost tell you whatever you want to read into them, but those who quote that Brexit will be a financial disaster might just be wrong of course.
Our economy as of now is performing better than expected. |
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| You're right on one point.... on 16:06 - Nov 8 with 1281 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| You're right on one point.... on 15:45 - Nov 8 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
The BBC business piece that you quote is a forecast by Richard Hughes of the OBR and does not reflect what is happening now. May I suggest you investigate his forecast made 12 months ago and compare it with reality today. He was a few billion on the pessimistic side.
Statistics of course can almost tell you whatever you want to read into them, but those who quote that Brexit will be a financial disaster might just be wrong of course.
Our economy as of now is performing better than expected. |
'Our economy as of now is performing better than expected'.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement for Brexit. Can you quantify the better performance the UK economy has had based on leaving the EU? Any improvement may not for long if there is a trade war.
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2021/1108/1258563-article-16/ | | | |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 16:51 - Nov 8 with 1224 views | bournemouthblue |
| Boris renegotiating the Brexit deal on 10:21 - Nov 8 by Darth_Koont |
Political opportunism/naked ambition rarely has a strong relationship with reality and facts.
I think some form of trade war once the impracticalities and costs of Brexit became apparent was always going to be the outcome. Unfortunately it’s also a price the UK population was always going to have to pay and not our politicians. [Post edited 8 Nov 2021 10:21]
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That was always likely the dark reality of Brexit, it was always a con and ideologically driven now |  |
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