| Drama queens 12:00 - Dec 3 with 4870 views | SitfcB |
The new numbskulls?
Go on Cookie!!
“I think no different from all supporters, you’ll always get good supporters, in my opinion, who have genuine conversations about the club, you’ll always get people in the modern world now through social media who are just drama queens, if you like. They’re just drama queens in my world.”
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| Drama queens on 12:55 - Dec 3 with 869 views | Ryorry |
| Drama queens on 12:16 - Dec 3 by chrismakin |
He's just committed managerial suicide Darth. Not my fault. |
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| Drama queens on 12:58 - Dec 3 with 855 views | Fixed_It |
| Drama queens on 12:02 - Dec 3 by chrismakin |
Ah we are that point now.
The final weeks. .
This is how the mick fk you situation started.
He has done himself no favours at all now. Those drama queens pay his wages. [Post edited 3 Dec 2021 12:07]
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Don't be such a.......... |  |
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| Drama queens on 12:58 - Dec 3 with 857 views | Churchman |
| Drama queens on 12:02 - Dec 3 by chrismakin |
Ah we are that point now.
The final weeks. .
This is how the mick fk you situation started.
He has done himself no favours at all now. Those drama queens pay his wages. [Post edited 3 Dec 2021 12:07]
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You’ve changed your tune a bit on Cook haven’t you?
I think Cook makes a reasonable point and given so many think they no better than him he’s entitled to make it. Whether it’s a wise thing to do is another issue. |  | | |
| Drama queens on 12:59 - Dec 3 with 849 views | Chrisd |
Has he been on here the last few months to form that opinion? |  |
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| Drama queens on 13:10 - Dec 3 with 824 views | chrismakin |
| Drama queens on 12:58 - Dec 3 by Churchman |
You’ve changed your tune a bit on Cook haven’t you?
I think Cook makes a reasonable point and given so many think they no better than him he’s entitled to make it. Whether it’s a wise thing to do is another issue. |
As I've said on this thread he probably is right as that's how modern football is
I think he's made a big mistake in calling it out tho as that's how it all started with mick and unless that successful run starts soon those drama queens he speaks of will get louder and louder.
It's not about my opinion on pcs current performance but more of how it's never a good idea to publicly split the fanbase. |  |
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| Drama queens on 13:11 - Dec 3 with 829 views | Fixed_It |
| Drama queens on 12:16 - Dec 3 by chrismakin |
He's just committed managerial suicide Darth. Not my fault. |
No. He hasn't. You're just being a.... [Post edited 3 Dec 2021 13:11]
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| Drama queens on 13:12 - Dec 3 with 820 views | chrismakin |
| Drama queens on 13:11 - Dec 3 by Fixed_It |
No. He hasn't. You're just being a.... [Post edited 3 Dec 2021 13:11]
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As others have said on this thread not just me. It's not a good idea to publicly make that statement. | |
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| Drama queens on 13:22 - Dec 3 with 796 views | Keaneish |
| Drama queens on 12:06 - Dec 3 by Illinoisblue |
He is, up to a point. But he keeps talking about “culture and work ethic” as if that’s the answer to our woes. Surely it’s more about tactics and game management. |
Game management come from culture and good habits. He’s right. |  |
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| Drama queens on 13:25 - Dec 3 with 788 views | Fixed_It |
| Drama queens on 13:12 - Dec 3 by chrismakin |
As others have said on this thread not just me. It's not a good idea to publicly make that statement. |
Well it doesn't bother me. But maybe that's because my conscience is clear. | |
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| Drama queens on 13:26 - Dec 3 with 788 views | itfcjoe |
Cook is coming from such a position of weakness that it ll sounds a bit desperate
He needs results, and fast. He knows, like every sensible person does, that the is totally expendable on this journey that Ipswich Town are on - and the work ethic, the culture, etc are important, but they are also set around and above him - and if he doesn't win games, someone else will get the opportunity to and no one will bat an eyelid in the grand scheme of things.
If John McGreal is manager by this time next week then everyone will be buzzing for him and hoping he can turn us round and Paul Cook will be forgotten about - that's football |  |
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| Drama queens on 13:27 - Dec 3 with 775 views | Illinoisblue |
| Drama queens on 13:22 - Dec 3 by Keaneish |
Game management come from culture and good habits. He’s right. |
Perhaps. But again, this is division 3. It shouldn’t be this hard. |  |
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| Drama queens on 13:28 - Dec 3 with 761 views | Fixed_It |
| Drama queens on 13:26 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
Cook is coming from such a position of weakness that it ll sounds a bit desperate
He needs results, and fast. He knows, like every sensible person does, that the is totally expendable on this journey that Ipswich Town are on - and the work ethic, the culture, etc are important, but they are also set around and above him - and if he doesn't win games, someone else will get the opportunity to and no one will bat an eyelid in the grand scheme of things.
If John McGreal is manager by this time next week then everyone will be buzzing for him and hoping he can turn us round and Paul Cook will be forgotten about - that's football |
And Paul Cook would be the first to acknowledge that. | |
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| Drama queens on 13:32 - Dec 3 with 757 views | itfcjoe |
| Drama queens on 13:28 - Dec 3 by Fixed_It |
And Paul Cook would be the first to acknowledge that. |
If football fans aren’t patient enough to wait, that’s the game we’re in today.
“But the ones who are patient and the ones who wait will certainly see our club go forward and our club grow because the ownership and the people involved at the higher end of the club want the same common goal, a strong Ipswich Town Football Club.”
Fans can be patient with the club, but not with the manager | |
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| Drama queens on 13:36 - Dec 3 with 721 views | Parky |
| Drama queens on 13:26 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
Cook is coming from such a position of weakness that it ll sounds a bit desperate
He needs results, and fast. He knows, like every sensible person does, that the is totally expendable on this journey that Ipswich Town are on - and the work ethic, the culture, etc are important, but they are also set around and above him - and if he doesn't win games, someone else will get the opportunity to and no one will bat an eyelid in the grand scheme of things.
If John McGreal is manager by this time next week then everyone will be buzzing for him and hoping he can turn us round and Paul Cook will be forgotten about - that's football |
I most certainly wouldn’t be “buzzing” if John McGreal was our manager next week. | | | |
| Drama queens on 13:37 - Dec 3 with 718 views | dirtyboy |
| Drama queens on 12:28 - Dec 3 by clive_baker |
It's always easier to make such remarks from a base of success, there's more credability.
When you're coming out with calling supporters drama queens because they're understandably showing some concerns that we're 11th in the league and miles off the top sides, then it looks a bit...desperate and misplaced IMO. |
as you say "IMO"
To me, it's a pragmatic and patient manager, who knows what he wants and is trying to do that and that he knows the process.
His record would suggest he's more likely to succeed than fail, but there's an increase in those vocal about wanting him to go.
He's stated what has to change, he's been honest, people don't like honesty, people want instant gratifciation.
People want the 1981 team.
Lot's of wants, lots of people who can't even put up with adverts in a TV program due to lack of patience, but don't realise that without them the production doesn't even happen unless you just throw more money at it.
I'm not sure where i'm going, because I too want to see more from this team, but I am certainly comfortable in seeing out much more of the season before calling for him, but not if it's a return to our season start! |  | | |
| Drama queens on 13:41 - Dec 3 with 704 views | Ryorry |
| Drama queens on 13:27 - Dec 3 by Illinoisblue |
Perhaps. But again, this is division 3. It shouldn’t be this hard. |
We are in a division with other clubs on a similar level to us, therefore we find it as hard as those other clubs do.
Our wonderful history doesn't mean we have the same wonderful *teams* as we had when playing in Europe & the Prem, so it *is* hard playing with what is in reality a Division 3 team without divine right to find things easy. A few quality individuals doesn't make us a great team playing as a cohesive unit. | |
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| Drama queens on 13:42 - Dec 3 with 699 views | chrismakin |
| Drama queens on 13:37 - Dec 3 by dirtyboy |
as you say "IMO"
To me, it's a pragmatic and patient manager, who knows what he wants and is trying to do that and that he knows the process.
His record would suggest he's more likely to succeed than fail, but there's an increase in those vocal about wanting him to go.
He's stated what has to change, he's been honest, people don't like honesty, people want instant gratifciation.
People want the 1981 team.
Lot's of wants, lots of people who can't even put up with adverts in a TV program due to lack of patience, but don't realise that without them the production doesn't even happen unless you just throw more money at it.
I'm not sure where i'm going, because I too want to see more from this team, but I am certainly comfortable in seeing out much more of the season before calling for him, but not if it's a return to our season start! |
The problem is that nothing PC is doing is following his previous stints as manager.
Pre.season wasn't great. Early season form wasn't great.
It's not showing a positive trend
Yet both his first seasons.at pompy and Wigan started well in pre season.. the seasons themselves started well too.
The player turnaround at both was also high so that's not new to him either.
He said to all. 1 window. 1 pre season.
Now he wants 3 windows 2 seasons.
He can't be shocked that people are concerned. | |
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| Drama queens on 13:49 - Dec 3 with 676 views | itfcjoe |
| Drama queens on 13:36 - Dec 3 by Parky |
I most certainly wouldn’t be “buzzing” if John McGreal was our manager next week. |
The majority of the fanbase would be, we even were under Lambert who was thrust on us despite his links with Norwich etc - he may not be who we want, but every manager gets a clean slater and instant support always | |
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| Drama queens on 13:58 - Dec 3 with 616 views | jeera |
| Drama queens on 13:37 - Dec 3 by dirtyboy |
as you say "IMO"
To me, it's a pragmatic and patient manager, who knows what he wants and is trying to do that and that he knows the process.
His record would suggest he's more likely to succeed than fail, but there's an increase in those vocal about wanting him to go.
He's stated what has to change, he's been honest, people don't like honesty, people want instant gratifciation.
People want the 1981 team.
Lot's of wants, lots of people who can't even put up with adverts in a TV program due to lack of patience, but don't realise that without them the production doesn't even happen unless you just throw more money at it.
I'm not sure where i'm going, because I too want to see more from this team, but I am certainly comfortable in seeing out much more of the season before calling for him, but not if it's a return to our season start! |
"People want the 1981 team."
To be fair I think most would settle for getting out of League One.
I do dislike most adverts though. |  |
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| Drama queens on 14:00 - Dec 3 with 612 views | Parky |
| Drama queens on 13:49 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
The majority of the fanbase would be, we even were under Lambert who was thrust on us despite his links with Norwich etc - he may not be who we want, but every manager gets a clean slater and instant support always |
I guess I can’t speak on behalf of others, but I’d be extremely annoyed and disappointed at replacing a proven successful manager, who has built a squad of his players, with somebody who has mainly managed in League Two [with no major achievements].
Not sure I agree with the Lambert comparison either, despite his scum connections, there was at least pedigree there and previous promotion achievements.
Happy to have different opinions of course, but sacking Paul Cook to hire John McGreal would be plain stupid in my eyes. There’s still over half the season to go, I still have faith in Cook and this squad of players. | | | |
| Drama queens on 14:01 - Dec 3 with 617 views | PhilTWTD |
| Drama queens on 13:49 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
The majority of the fanbase would be, we even were under Lambert who was thrust on us despite his links with Norwich etc - he may not be who we want, but every manager gets a clean slater and instant support always |
Not sure you're right there, think there'd be a lot of scepticism given his lack of track record. But I don't think he'll ever be manager, caretaker-manager perhaps if and when PC goes, but not manager. I think MA would be looking at someone with more pedigree once that point comes. |  | | |
| Drama queens on 14:01 - Dec 3 with 605 views | ghostofescobar |
| Drama queens on 13:49 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
The majority of the fanbase would be, we even were under Lambert who was thrust on us despite his links with Norwich etc - he may not be who we want, but every manager gets a clean slater and instant support always |
Do you think the fanbase really would be? I think it would show a lack of ambition by our new owners, but I guess all managers are a gamble. |  |
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| Drama queens on 14:02 - Dec 3 with 599 views | SouperJim |
| Drama queens on 13:49 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
The majority of the fanbase would be, we even were under Lambert who was thrust on us despite his links with Norwich etc - he may not be who we want, but every manager gets a clean slater and instant support always |
Respectfully disagree.
Yes the fans would "back" him, be positive in seeing a popular ex-player come in, talk nonsense about The Ipswich Way etc. But there would be quite a bit of concern about us appointing a manager whose only previous experience is 4 years at Colchester, where he delivered a 38% win rate. |  |
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| Drama queens on 14:07 - Dec 3 with 578 views | chrismakin |
| Drama queens on 14:02 - Dec 3 by SouperJim |
Respectfully disagree.
Yes the fans would "back" him, be positive in seeing a popular ex-player come in, talk nonsense about The Ipswich Way etc. But there would be quite a bit of concern about us appointing a manager whose only previous experience is 4 years at Colchester, where he delivered a 38% win rate. |
Also another 4 2 3 1 manager. No thank you!. | |
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