| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook 09:26 - Jan 14 with 5068 views | ElderGrizzly |
In the latest EADT interview pushed by Mark Heath this morning
"I think a lot (is down to him)," he said. "A lot has changed - tactics, formations, roles - so I think a lot of it has come through the new manager”
“Training's great. It's sharp, intense and there's a real detail to everything we do. The standards are really high and the boys are thriving off it”
“It's so different to what we've been used to, but like I say, it's been great”
The last line is the killer.
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:29 - Jan 14 with 3895 views | hype313 |
Cook sounds like he is a Nokia in a Smartphone world.
Lovely bloke, and his methods worked well in certain "back to the wall" environments, but his tactical nous was non existent and by the sounds of things, his training methods were a throwback to years gone by. |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:31 - Jan 14 with 3873 views | Kieran_Knows |
Indeed, the training under Cook was just very repetitive and boring, from what I heard (certainly towards the end of his time when the results just weren't consistent enough).
Think Penney may be saying those things as well because Cook did stick him on the transfer list also. |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:31 - Jan 14 with 3861 views | itfcsuth |
I wouldn't pay too much attention to it. It's the classic soundbites you generally always hear after a manager change. |  | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:33 - Jan 14 with 3836 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:31 - Jan 14 by itfcsuth |
I wouldn't pay too much attention to it. It's the classic soundbites you generally always hear after a manager change. |
Agree to an extent, But it backs up what others were saying while Cook was here too. | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:38 - Jan 14 with 3764 views | Garv |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:31 - Jan 14 by Kieran_Knows |
Indeed, the training under Cook was just very repetitive and boring, from what I heard (certainly towards the end of his time when the results just weren't consistent enough).
Think Penney may be saying those things as well because Cook did stick him on the transfer list also. |
Is that common knowledge? He left him out even after returning from injury and played Clements instead, bizarrely, but never heard he'd been transfer listed. With Coulson a constant no show that would have been odd. |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:39 - Jan 14 with 3771 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:38 - Jan 14 by Garv |
Is that common knowledge? He left him out even after returning from injury and played Clements instead, bizarrely, but never heard he'd been transfer listed. With Coulson a constant no show that would have been odd. |
I'd heard he stuck him on the transfer list after the Plymouth game (think someone else said that on here - maybe itfcjoe - also).
He was, and I can say this for a fact, training with the 23's for a period of time after that Plymouth game also. | |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:42 - Jan 14 with 3713 views | Garv |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:39 - Jan 14 by Kieran_Knows |
I'd heard he stuck him on the transfer list after the Plymouth game (think someone else said that on here - maybe itfcjoe - also).
He was, and I can say this for a fact, training with the 23's for a period of time after that Plymouth game also. |
I hope that was following some kind of fall out or argument, because his performances didn't warrant that. | |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:43 - Jan 14 with 3700 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:39 - Jan 14 by Kieran_Knows |
I'd heard he stuck him on the transfer list after the Plymouth game (think someone else said that on here - maybe itfcjoe - also).
He was, and I can say this for a fact, training with the 23's for a period of time after that Plymouth game also. |
Yep, heard the same. Cook hung him out to dry after his mistake for the goal at Plymouth. Apparently after that game he made his mind up on him and I dont think he really played again. The fact Bailey Clements played ahead of him when he was fit tells you a lot.
FWIW I like Penney, obviously Coulson is better option when fit but I'd like Penney to stay around. |  | | |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:44 - Jan 14 with 3684 views | xrayspecs |
I thought similar. He is not the first one to make this kind of comment.
The timing of Cook's departure was unexpected, perhaps Ashton could see issues at the training ground and had concerns about Cooks management style. |  | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:44 - Jan 14 with 3671 views | Fixed_It |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:42 - Jan 14 by Garv |
I hope that was following some kind of fall out or argument, because his performances didn't warrant that. |
I think a lot of blame for the loss at Plymouth was pinned on Penney who had a shocker. Whether words were exchanged we'll never know. |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:45 - Jan 14 with 3659 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:44 - Jan 14 by Fixed_It |
I think a lot of blame for the loss at Plymouth was pinned on Penney who had a shocker. Whether words were exchanged we'll never know. |
Given all the praise for Cook as a good man manager, he did seem to throw our players under a bus all too frequently | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:48 - Jan 14 with 3612 views | JakeITFC |
Tbf we have hired one of the best coaches in the country, most league one managers would look bad comparatively. |  | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:52 - Jan 14 with 3545 views | Dubtractor |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:45 - Jan 14 by ElderGrizzly |
Given all the praise for Cook as a good man manager, he did seem to throw our players under a bus all too frequently |
I was thinking similar.
All too easy to just bin players on the regular rather than try and improve them. |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:56 - Jan 14 with 3484 views | JDB23 |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:31 - Jan 14 by Kieran_Knows |
Indeed, the training under Cook was just very repetitive and boring, from what I heard (certainly towards the end of his time when the results just weren't consistent enough).
Think Penney may be saying those things as well because Cook did stick him on the transfer list also. |
Yes, even in his interviews his main message was “repetition”. There’s only so much you can do of the same thing while not seeing it transfer to game days before you all get fed up. | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:58 - Jan 14 with 3458 views | hype313 |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:45 - Jan 14 by ElderGrizzly |
Given all the praise for Cook as a good man manager, he did seem to throw our players under a bus all too frequently |
You could make an argument for the previous squad, but to then throw players you personally signed under the bus, just reeks of gross incompetence. | |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:14 - Jan 14 with 3295 views | N2_Blue |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:38 - Jan 14 by Garv |
Is that common knowledge? He left him out even after returning from injury and played Clements instead, bizarrely, but never heard he'd been transfer listed. With Coulson a constant no show that would have been odd. |
Transfer listed him a few months after signing him and yet I don't think Penney was ever that bad. Playing Clements 3 games in a week when he is a youngster that had hardly played a professional game was another ludicrous decision.
Really strange from Cook - he really did lose the plot a bit here when things didn't work out. Still can't believe some people were so hesitant to sack him. If anything it was too slow, not too quick |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:37 - Jan 14 with 3143 views | itfcjoe |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:56 - Jan 14 by JDB23 |
Yes, even in his interviews his main message was “repetition”. There’s only so much you can do of the same thing while not seeing it transfer to game days before you all get fed up. |
In fairness when we interviewed David Johnson on Blue Monday pod he said the same about Burley's sessions - the same every week, same order, same sessions - and that they were pretty boring etc but obviously worked.
But guess this is 20 years later and things have moved on so far |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:44 - Jan 14 with 3046 views | JDB23 |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:37 - Jan 14 by itfcjoe |
In fairness when we interviewed David Johnson on Blue Monday pod he said the same about Burley's sessions - the same every week, same order, same sessions - and that they were pretty boring etc but obviously worked.
But guess this is 20 years later and things have moved on so far |
Yes it’s probably a lot easier to stomach when you actually see results from it.
If you’re struggling and in a bit of a rut I can’t imagine there’s much motivation from the players knowing they’re heading into training just to do the same things over and over. It may have ended up working long term but clearly something was not right this season. | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:48 - Jan 14 with 2991 views | itfcjoe |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:44 - Jan 14 by JDB23 |
Yes it’s probably a lot easier to stomach when you actually see results from it.
If you’re struggling and in a bit of a rut I can’t imagine there’s much motivation from the players knowing they’re heading into training just to do the same things over and over. It may have ended up working long term but clearly something was not right this season. |
No, and with a lot of first team players there needs to be really well thought out and engaging sessions - had heard from one that feels a lot more modern now and Cook's sessions at times felt like going through motions and plodding along.
Have also heard all sessions now filmed on drone and the performance staff are clipping up videos to go through with the individual players for where they need to improve, and been empowered to do so by McKenna, i.e. not all has to be run through him, if they see bits which aren't right they can correct with the players | |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:50 - Jan 14 with 2966 views | 66notout |
Isn’t that the same interview featured on here yesterday? Just surprised you missed it… | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:53 - Jan 14 with 2902 views | FightingEssex |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:44 - Jan 14 by xrayspecs |
I thought similar. He is not the first one to make this kind of comment.
The timing of Cook's departure was unexpected, perhaps Ashton could see issues at the training ground and had concerns about Cooks management style. |
Bishop said that as a midfielder he wasn’t allowed to get into the box under Cook. People laughed and called it sour grapes at the time… |  |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:54 - Jan 14 with 2887 views | Bluroo |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:37 - Jan 14 by itfcjoe |
In fairness when we interviewed David Johnson on Blue Monday pod he said the same about Burley's sessions - the same every week, same order, same sessions - and that they were pretty boring etc but obviously worked.
But guess this is 20 years later and things have moved on so far |
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| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:55 - Jan 14 with 2885 views | JDB23 |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:48 - Jan 14 by itfcjoe |
No, and with a lot of first team players there needs to be really well thought out and engaging sessions - had heard from one that feels a lot more modern now and Cook's sessions at times felt like going through motions and plodding along.
Have also heard all sessions now filmed on drone and the performance staff are clipping up videos to go through with the individual players for where they need to improve, and been empowered to do so by McKenna, i.e. not all has to be run through him, if they see bits which aren't right they can correct with the players |
That sounds promising and is a logical step given the direction the club is heading in. No point putting all this infrastructure in place when you have a manager who wants complete control over everything. A shame we wasted the first half of the season with Cook when it was clear he wouldn’t work in this setup.
Feel like we are in a much better place now. | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:55 - Jan 14 with 2879 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:53 - Jan 14 by FightingEssex |
Bishop said that as a midfielder he wasn’t allowed to get into the box under Cook. People laughed and called it sour grapes at the time… |
Given Morsy was resembling a crab under Cook, but is now in the box providing assists and shooting there is definitely a lot of truth in there | | | |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 10:56 - Jan 14 with 2872 views | itfcsuth |
| Penney taking a few digs at the methods of Paul Cook on 09:44 - Jan 14 by Fixed_It |
I think a lot of blame for the loss at Plymouth was pinned on Penney who had a shocker. Whether words were exchanged we'll never know. |
He had a torrid time that day, especially in the first half - but it didn't warrant being transfer listed and training with the u23's.
We all have bad days, and by and large he's been steady for us all season, and moving to the wing-back role he has actually looked a lot better - suits him much better. | | | |
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