| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue 17:59 - Mar 19 with 18006 views | homer_123 |
was at the game today...having tested positive via PCR for Covid.
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:33 - Mar 19 with 1581 views | Swansea_Blue |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 19:59 - Mar 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
They're not completely useless, surely? Surely something is better than nothing? |
No, of course they’re not useless. There have been a few studies that have shown significant effect of masks in reducing spread. Surgical masks are obviously better, but any type of common mask is a lot better than none. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:44 - Mar 19 with 1561 views | Ryorry |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:18 - Mar 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So much theatre throughout this entire thing to be honest. I went in a place at the end of last year where they said you had to wear a mask to walk through the restaurant, order at the bar or go to the toilets. If you’re sat at the bar drinking and eating though, no problem. So much science to unpack there.
Obviously my opinion gets shot down on here because it doesn’t fit the TWTD narrative but I do think locks downs, travel bans (at least after the first wave) will be viewed as a policy disaster in years to come. Maybe my career made me a little bias but still. [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 20:19]
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Arguably, not locking down earlier & more stringently meant we had to lock down stringently for an even longer period later on. Another type of 'false economy'.
Allowing the Cheltenham Festival (racing) in March 2020 & the Liverpool v Madrid Champs Lge game at Anfield in April 2020 to go ahead, plus not banning travel from problematic countries a lot sooner than we did, were catastrophic errors costing tens of thousands of lives, including that of an old friend of mine who'd gone to the L'pool game as a guest. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:49 - Mar 19 with 1547 views | KingsCrossBlue |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:18 - Mar 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So much theatre throughout this entire thing to be honest. I went in a place at the end of last year where they said you had to wear a mask to walk through the restaurant, order at the bar or go to the toilets. If you’re sat at the bar drinking and eating though, no problem. So much science to unpack there.
Obviously my opinion gets shot down on here because it doesn’t fit the TWTD narrative but I do think locks downs, travel bans (at least after the first wave) will be viewed as a policy disaster in years to come. Maybe my career made me a little bias but still. [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 20:19]
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Mate, I don’t think your opinion is getting shot down. I’m not sure if you are based in the UK? But it is exactly the same contradictions and hypocrisy that you describe as my experiences. At one point, it was masks on trains, ET extraction suits-esque at the local cinema, human sized condoms to walk in to greggs - but then pubs and restaurants are absolutely fine! Just pile in and lick the door handle on the way out. It was like covid was exempt.
It’s odd, I’m all for opening everything up for everyone’s livelihoods - but a tiny bit of compassion of staying isolated if you have covid, is that too much to ask?
I’m a proper horrible c*** to most people, but knowingly not giving two hoots about passing on an illness is pretty low. Be it a cold , covid etc |  | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:51 - Mar 19 with 1546 views | Lord_Lucan |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:18 - Mar 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So much theatre throughout this entire thing to be honest. I went in a place at the end of last year where they said you had to wear a mask to walk through the restaurant, order at the bar or go to the toilets. If you’re sat at the bar drinking and eating though, no problem. So much science to unpack there.
Obviously my opinion gets shot down on here because it doesn’t fit the TWTD narrative but I do think locks downs, travel bans (at least after the first wave) will be viewed as a policy disaster in years to come. Maybe my career made me a little bias but still. [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 20:19]
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In think we were all learning from the start and are continuing to learn. I just read a very good book which covered the pandemic and all we did from the get go was do pretty much exactly what Whitty and co suggested - that was their job and we followed it. This included everything from lockdown timings, air travel, Cheltenham, mask wearing etc etc. Some of the insights into how Ferguson and others came up with data was bloody ridiculous.
What gets me is people who compare the likes of UK to NZ, or death rates to countries who record deaths in a different way - and then treat it like a bloody football league table. Or another one - South Korea, 1/ they have dealt with pandemics before, 2/ Do they think UK public would stand for that level of intrusion - government knows where you are at all times, even if you are having a sh1t.
And then there is Public Health England - This is the organisation that completely screwed everything up. Pretty much everything that was a balls up was ultimately down to PHE
Something goes right - It's the NHS
Something goes wrong - It's No 10
Successes and cock ups involved a mixture of pretty much everyone. [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 21:04]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 21:01 - Mar 19 with 1519 views | Lord_Lucan |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:33 - Mar 19 by Swansea_Blue |
No, of course they’re not useless. There have been a few studies that have shown significant effect of masks in reducing spread. Surgical masks are obviously better, but any type of common mask is a lot better than none. |
Putting your underpants over your head is better than nothing but ultimately not effective - hence cloth masks are not acceptable in many countries and if you were wearing one is a country with any previous knowledge of pandemics you would be looked upon as an actual madman [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 21:01]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 22:20 - Mar 19 with 1437 views | mylittletown |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 18:17 - Mar 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
What do you want people to do? Socially distance and use caution forever?
Wearing a mask is doing nothing with this strain unless it’s an N95. Not sure what the point of testing is at this point if people are ignoring the results? Either way, you have the protection so it’s rightly time to get on with life. |
Easily said, but as a 65 year old who has managed to avoid it for more than two years, I got COVID this week, and it not funny.
It is not like a heavy cold, or anything like. I am very fit, fully vaccinated, very careful, absolutely no other health issues, and I may well have to go to get some serious treatment if I am not showing signs of getting better tomorrow.
It is not like living with flu. |  | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 22:56 - Mar 19 with 1404 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 22:20 - Mar 19 by mylittletown |
Easily said, but as a 65 year old who has managed to avoid it for more than two years, I got COVID this week, and it not funny.
It is not like a heavy cold, or anything like. I am very fit, fully vaccinated, very careful, absolutely no other health issues, and I may well have to go to get some serious treatment if I am not showing signs of getting better tomorrow.
It is not like living with flu. |
Hope you are feeling much better very soon. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:08 - Mar 19 with 1392 views | mylittletown |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 22:56 - Mar 19 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Hope you are feeling much better very soon. |
Thanks. Appreciate it. | | | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:15 - Mar 19 with 1389 views | berkstractorboy |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 18:17 - Mar 19 by SitfcB |
He doesn’t have to isolate though? |
And this is the issue people still fail to get the responsible thing to do is to isolate. Others can still catch it, and if they haven't been vaccinated could get into real difficulties. That's their personal choice if the worst happens, but this could still take hospital beds, doctors and nurses time and funds that we really should be spending on those will illnesses that have been neglected for 2 years.
IMO It's just incredibly selfish not to isolate for 4 or 5 days if you know you have covid. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:37 - Mar 19 with 1368 views | Ryorry |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:15 - Mar 19 by berkstractorboy |
And this is the issue people still fail to get the responsible thing to do is to isolate. Others can still catch it, and if they haven't been vaccinated could get into real difficulties. That's their personal choice if the worst happens, but this could still take hospital beds, doctors and nurses time and funds that we really should be spending on those will illnesses that have been neglected for 2 years.
IMO It's just incredibly selfish not to isolate for 4 or 5 days if you know you have covid. |
Even for those who are vaccinated, it's 5 or 6 months since over-70s & vulnerable people had their boosters - antibodies will be diminishing rapidly now.
Only *extremely* vulnerable people (eg those getting cancer treatment) & over-75s are getting boosters this spring. | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:52 - Mar 19 with 1348 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 22:20 - Mar 19 by mylittletown |
Easily said, but as a 65 year old who has managed to avoid it for more than two years, I got COVID this week, and it not funny.
It is not like a heavy cold, or anything like. I am very fit, fully vaccinated, very careful, absolutely no other health issues, and I may well have to go to get some serious treatment if I am not showing signs of getting better tomorrow.
It is not like living with flu. |
Removing to avoid unnecessary arguments. Hope you’re better soon. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 6:30]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:56 - Mar 19 with 1349 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:15 - Mar 19 by berkstractorboy |
And this is the issue people still fail to get the responsible thing to do is to isolate. Others can still catch it, and if they haven't been vaccinated could get into real difficulties. That's their personal choice if the worst happens, but this could still take hospital beds, doctors and nurses time and funds that we really should be spending on those will illnesses that have been neglected for 2 years.
IMO It's just incredibly selfish not to isolate for 4 or 5 days if you know you have covid. |
Nonsense. That would mean the entire 60m population should be testing every day at least. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:58 - Mar 19 with 1335 views | berkstractorboy |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:37 - Mar 19 by Ryorry |
Even for those who are vaccinated, it's 5 or 6 months since over-70s & vulnerable people had their boosters - antibodies will be diminishing rapidly now.
Only *extremely* vulnerable people (eg those getting cancer treatment) & over-75s are getting boosters this spring. |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:00 - Mar 20 with 1332 views | berkstractorboy |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:56 - Mar 19 by PrideOfTheEast |
Nonsense. That would mean the entire 60m population should be testing every day at least. |
I didn't say that, if you know you are positive you should isolate.
You crack on being part of the problem if you think its all good now as BoJo has said it's all fine. If you trust that man then more fool you. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:02 - Mar 20 with 1328 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:00 - Mar 20 by berkstractorboy |
I didn't say that, if you know you are positive you should isolate.
You crack on being part of the problem if you think its all good now as BoJo has said it's all fine. If you trust that man then more fool you. |
I didn’t say you did but just think about what you’re suggesting.
I’m not listening to “bojo” or anyone, just quite simply following logic. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:07 - Mar 20 with 1322 views | KingsCrossBlue |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:00 - Mar 20 by berkstractorboy |
I didn't say that, if you know you are positive you should isolate.
You crack on being part of the problem if you think its all good now as BoJo has said it's all fine. If you trust that man then more fool you. |
Yes - 100% this | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:09 - Mar 20 with 1319 views | mylittletown |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:52 - Mar 19 by PrideOfTheEast |
Removing to avoid unnecessary arguments. Hope you’re better soon. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 6:30]
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F**K off you ignorant t0sser. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:16 - Mar 20 with 1306 views | berkstractorboy |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:02 - Mar 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
I didn’t say you did but just think about what you’re suggesting.
I’m not listening to “bojo” or anyone, just quite simply following logic. |
What logic? Its safe to go out with covid and pass it onto other people, some will die, some will needlessly tie up NHS resources is what you are saying, I fail to see logic in that.
What I am suggesting is. You feel unwell and suspect it could be covid as you have an obvious symptom, test is positive then isolate for 4-5 days until test negative. Thats not testing everyday is it!
I get people being positive and isolate can have job implications, so if you have to go into work as thats the employer rules now tell them so they can deal with anyone clinically vulnerable around who should not be put at risk. Try to travel to work alone in private transport and wear a mask on public transport and attempt to social distance i.e. be as responsible as you can. Going to a football match with no social distancing is not being responsible. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 01:14 - Mar 20 with 1278 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 23:52 - Mar 19 by PrideOfTheEast |
Removing to avoid unnecessary arguments. Hope you’re better soon. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 6:30]
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You obviously haven't had it. I've just woken up in agony after the first proper bit of sleep I've had in 3 days. The pain is excruciating and if anything TWTD is a welcome distraction while the pain killers kick in. It's fecking horrible and I really urge people to avoid it as best they can. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 05:08 - Mar 20 with 1229 views | Ryorry |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 01:14 - Mar 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You obviously haven't had it. I've just woken up in agony after the first proper bit of sleep I've had in 3 days. The pain is excruciating and if anything TWTD is a welcome distraction while the pain killers kick in. It's fecking horrible and I really urge people to avoid it as best they can. |
Sorry to hear that, hope you're feeling much better very soon. Iirc you're relatively young & formerly, like Mylittletown, very fit?
All best to both of you, and any others on here currently suffering from this awful virus. | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:18 - Mar 20 with 1206 views | jeera |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 21:01 - Mar 19 by Lord_Lucan |
Putting your underpants over your head is better than nothing but ultimately not effective - hence cloth masks are not acceptable in many countries and if you were wearing one is a country with any previous knowledge of pandemics you would be looked upon as an actual madman [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 21:01]
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You mean epidemics of course.
You cannot be suggesting masks haven't been commonplace in parts of Asia for years when you know better.
There's no way you need a link to an article but what the hell, while we're here anyway.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/east-asian-countries-face-masks-before-co
Unless you believe they all wear N95 types in 'normal' times that doesn't stack up at all. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 6:29]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:22 - Mar 20 with 1201 views | Churchman |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 05:08 - Mar 20 by Ryorry |
Sorry to hear that, hope you're feeling much better very soon. Iirc you're relatively young & formerly, like Mylittletown, very fit?
All best to both of you, and any others on here currently suffering from this awful virus. |
Agreed. I hope you and all enduring it feel better soon. A number of acquaintances and friends have had it recently, or have it at the moment and the impact varies wildly. My ski chums’ misses who has a number of conditions, including asthma, was fine after a couple of days, but can’t get rid of a cough. Another chum, two days with a cold, no real problem, yet his sons have been absolutely massacred by it. His misses hasn’t caught it.
There appears to be no pattern to its effects. We need SB back to explain it! |  | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:24 - Mar 20 with 1202 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:16 - Mar 20 by berkstractorboy |
What logic? Its safe to go out with covid and pass it onto other people, some will die, some will needlessly tie up NHS resources is what you are saying, I fail to see logic in that.
What I am suggesting is. You feel unwell and suspect it could be covid as you have an obvious symptom, test is positive then isolate for 4-5 days until test negative. Thats not testing everyday is it!
I get people being positive and isolate can have job implications, so if you have to go into work as thats the employer rules now tell them so they can deal with anyone clinically vulnerable around who should not be put at risk. Try to travel to work alone in private transport and wear a mask on public transport and attempt to social distance i.e. be as responsible as you can. Going to a football match with no social distancing is not being responsible. |
But the major issue is that so many people have it without knowing. So therefore everybody would need to be constantly testing to ensure they weren’t passing it on which just simply isn’t a solution long term. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:24 - Mar 20 with 1198 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 00:09 - Mar 20 by mylittletown |
F**K off you ignorant t0sser. |
Other points of view are allowed on this. And for the record I’ve had it at least twice. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:28 - Mar 20 with 1189 views | jeera |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:24 - Mar 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
Other points of view are allowed on this. And for the record I’ve had it at least twice. |
Stating something that has had consequences for so many people as just a heavy cold probably isn't the right way to go about things. | |
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