| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue 17:59 - Mar 19 with 18156 views | homer_123 |
was at the game today...having tested positive via PCR for Covid.
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:32 - Mar 20 with 1554 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:28 - Mar 20 by jeera |
Stating something that has had consequences for so many people as just a heavy cold probably isn't the right way to go about things. |
Fair point and apologies. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 6:33]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 07:44 - Mar 20 with 1507 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 05:08 - Mar 20 by Ryorry |
Sorry to hear that, hope you're feeling much better very soon. Iirc you're relatively young & formerly, like Mylittletown, very fit?
All best to both of you, and any others on here currently suffering from this awful virus. |
Thanks Ryorry. I was probably young and fit when we first chatted, not so much now. I'll be 50 this year!
Out of ibuprofen now, chemists aren't open until 10/11 and to be honest I need something stronger. With doctors shut as well I'm seriously think about going back on the booze until it eases, the anaesthetic of olden times! |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 07:47 - Mar 20 with 1502 views | Pagan_Blue |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 22:20 - Mar 19 by mylittletown |
Easily said, but as a 65 year old who has managed to avoid it for more than two years, I got COVID this week, and it not funny.
It is not like a heavy cold, or anything like. I am very fit, fully vaccinated, very careful, absolutely no other health issues, and I may well have to go to get some serious treatment if I am not showing signs of getting better tomorrow.
It is not like living with flu. |
Strange how this virus affects people in different ways. As someone who has Asthma/COPD I've been very wary of becoming infected. However, I tested positive last Tuesday and can only describe the symptoms as being like hay fever - lots of sneezing , blocked sinuses etc, but no breathlessness, which is quite surprising given my underlying conditions. I've just taken another test which was positive, so I will be staying at home for the time being, Hope you come through this ok. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 08:22 - Mar 20 with 1468 views | pennyfathersleg |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 18:38 - Mar 19 by DJR |
I tested positive with a lateral flow test on Wednesday, and so didn't go to the Oxford game today despite having a ticket. Although not the law, the advice is to self-isolate for 10 days (26 March flashes up on my Covid app as the end-date), although I can be released earlier with negative tests on days 5 and 6. I suppose it's difficult to blame people because the messaging is poor and employers appear to be behaving badly. The thing is Covid is not bad for most people, but the effect on the vulnerable can be severe. My mother was admitted to hospital as a suspected Covid patient on 28 February and put on a Covid ward. She died on 2 March. |
I tested positive on Tuesday and felt a bit rough for a few days. I had a ticket for the Oxford game and was driving some friends, but I didn’t go. I felt absolutely fine on Saturday morning but still testing positive. Never would I have dreamt of going while having covid. I also have a ticket for the ladies today - me and my daughter were really looking forward this. We aren’t going, so we’re both gutted.
I’d also like to point out that I’ve been living in my spare room since Tuesday - my partner and daughter are both still negative! |  | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 08:38 - Mar 20 with 1447 views | DJR |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 08:22 - Mar 20 by pennyfathersleg |
I tested positive on Tuesday and felt a bit rough for a few days. I had a ticket for the Oxford game and was driving some friends, but I didn’t go. I felt absolutely fine on Saturday morning but still testing positive. Never would I have dreamt of going while having covid. I also have a ticket for the ladies today - me and my daughter were really looking forward this. We aren’t going, so we’re both gutted.
I’d also like to point out that I’ve been living in my spare room since Tuesday - my partner and daughter are both still negative! |
I also moved to the spare room but it eventually caught up with my wife, maybe because of contact before my positive test, given I had symptoms on Tuesday but tested negative. My children don't have it and I'm hoping they won't get it as they've avoided Covid (or at least symptomatic Covid) throughout the pandemic despite greater interaction than me through education and jobs. I've also been feeling much better for a couple of days but still tested positive yesterday. |  | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 09:09 - Mar 20 with 1412 views | Lord_Lucan |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:18 - Mar 20 by jeera |
You mean epidemics of course.
You cannot be suggesting masks haven't been commonplace in parts of Asia for years when you know better.
There's no way you need a link to an article but what the hell, while we're here anyway.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/east-asian-countries-face-masks-before-co
Unless you believe they all wear N95 types in 'normal' times that doesn't stack up at all. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 6:29]
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No, I mean pandemic (SARS)
Everyone wears masks in Far East (even during times of full health) but no one wears a cloth mask, they just don't exist in the Far East as they are pointless.
So, for example, if you complain that people aren't wearing masks but only wear a cloth mask yourself then you are a bit of a tit. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 9:11]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 09:26 - Mar 20 with 1362 views | mylittletown |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:24 - Mar 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
Other points of view are allowed on this. And for the record I’ve had it at least twice. |
So, having it had it at least twice gives you the ability to diagnose me from probably 100s of miles away without ever having met me?
The sheer arrogance is what made me so angry.
I am old enough to have had the odd heavy cold, and they are not like this. Another night of barely sleeping because I can't breathe properly. |  | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 10:12 - Mar 20 with 1314 views | DJR |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 09:26 - Mar 20 by mylittletown |
So, having it had it at least twice gives you the ability to diagnose me from probably 100s of miles away without ever having met me?
The sheer arrogance is what made me so angry.
I am old enough to have had the odd heavy cold, and they are not like this. Another night of barely sleeping because I can't breathe properly. |
Because you mention difficulty breathing, I wonder if you have you an oximeter? Boots have them for about £20. This keeps an eye on the oxygen levels in your blood. Any reading below 95 is a cause for concern. The scientific term for low oxygen is hypoxia but it is possible to have silent hypoxia, namely low oxygen levels but no symptoms such as difficulty breathing. This is what happened to my mother who had no symptoms until the day three weeks ago that she had to go to hospital, when it emerged her oxygen levels were below 80. Sadly, I didn't realise she had problems as she had no symptoms, so even though I had an oximeter, I didn't think to use it. My wife and I currently have Covid and are using the oximeter to monitor our oxygen levels. There is a scheme to provide oximeters to vulnerable Covid patients, and the following link gives a bit more info on them. https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2022/02/pulse [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 10:15]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 10:26 - Mar 20 with 1299 views | Pinewoodblue |
Couple of weeks ago I thought I had Covid, tested negative so was just a cold. Problem with colds is always end up with a lingering cough. Ten days ago went to Co. Donegal for long weekend. Tested before we flew to Derry negative. Get home and tagged by NHS App had been in close proximity Sunday, day we flew back to Stansted, with someone who tested positive. Wife was also tagged but she was supposedly in close contact with someone on the Friday, not Saturday. Nearly everyone at the function was from Derry.
Do LFT and test positive although not showing any symptoms. Negative test yesterday and today so off to see Herman’s Hermits in Hunstanton.
Will still wear face mask in theatre though. It is hard to understand why some folk find it difficult to do the right thing. Not sure if it is selfishness or just plain ignorance. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 10:28 - Mar 20 with 1293 views | berkstractorboy |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 06:24 - Mar 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
But the major issue is that so many people have it without knowing. So therefore everybody would need to be constantly testing to ensure they weren’t passing it on which just simply isn’t a solution long term. |
You're missing the point again!! Everybody won't test but again, is you have symptoms which you think are typical covid test if you can and take responsible actions if you are positive.
Yes people have it without knowing it and we've had that since the start of the pandemic. That doesn't mean we follow what you seem to suggest and just stop caring about this completely and people just do what they want, too many more lives at risk for that currently. This discussion started about someone knowingly positive and I took objection to the 'we don't have to isolate why bother' line as one that is still very dangerous to us as a collective society.
I am in the camp that would want to test and be responsible for the sake of others even if an inconvenience to me. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 10:58 - Mar 20 with 1254 views | TractorWood |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 18:38 - Mar 19 by DJR |
I tested positive with a lateral flow test on Wednesday, and so didn't go to the Oxford game today despite having a ticket. Although not the law, the advice is to self-isolate for 10 days (26 March flashes up on my Covid app as the end-date), although I can be released earlier with negative tests on days 5 and 6. I suppose it's difficult to blame people because the messaging is poor and employers appear to be behaving badly. The thing is Covid is not bad for most people, but the effect on the vulnerable can be severe. My mother was admitted to hospital as a suspected Covid patient on 28 February and put on a Covid ward. She died on 2 March. |
Sorry for your loss. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 11:15 - Mar 20 with 1229 views | DJR |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 10:58 - Mar 20 by TractorWood |
Sorry for your loss. |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 11:20 - Mar 20 with 1223 views | berkstractorboy |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 10:58 - Mar 20 by TractorWood |
Sorry for your loss. |
Really sorry to hear that DJR. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 11:21 - Mar 20 with 1221 views | Ryorry |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 07:47 - Mar 20 by Pagan_Blue |
Strange how this virus affects people in different ways. As someone who has Asthma/COPD I've been very wary of becoming infected. However, I tested positive last Tuesday and can only describe the symptoms as being like hay fever - lots of sneezing , blocked sinuses etc, but no breathlessness, which is quite surprising given my underlying conditions. I've just taken another test which was positive, so I will be staying at home for the time being, Hope you come through this ok. |
A BBC R4 or World Service programme, was either 'Inside Health' or 'Inside Science' which I think I linked a month or two back but can't find now, quoted a big-sample, peer-reviewed study that strongly suggested there's a genetic component as to how badly some people get, and others sail through without even contracting Covid - even if they're parents looking after kids who have it, or partners sleeping in the same bed. I'm guessing other studies are ongoing.
Just to add another point on thread generally re masks - of course, ideally, everybody would be wearing FFP2 masks, but the basic principle of precaution via a whole range of mitigations also applies, and the more that are applied, the more the risk is reduced. So even non-FFP2 masks are some impediment to the virus spreading, as are distancing, ventilation, not sneezing directly towards someone but turning away & sneezing into the crook of your arm etc. Something is better than nothing even if people can't do the whole works, but put them all in place & people are a lot safer. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 11:31 - Mar 20 with 1208 views | DJR |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 11:20 - Mar 20 by berkstractorboy |
Really sorry to hear that DJR. |
Thanks. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:05 - Mar 20 with 1170 views | pennyfathersleg |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 08:38 - Mar 20 by DJR |
I also moved to the spare room but it eventually caught up with my wife, maybe because of contact before my positive test, given I had symptoms on Tuesday but tested negative. My children don't have it and I'm hoping they won't get it as they've avoided Covid (or at least symptomatic Covid) throughout the pandemic despite greater interaction than me through education and jobs. I've also been feeling much better for a couple of days but still tested positive yesterday. |
I’m really sorry to hear about your mum. It really is a horrible disease.
Glad to hear your children didn’t get it. My little girl has escaped the whole time too (symptomatic anyway) even though there was a massive outbreak in her school recently and me getting it!
My mum has a bad lung illness (bronchiectasis) and recently had breast cancer; if she caught covid, she would really suffer. She has really struggled with anxiety the whole time for this reason (naturally). Even now, she struggles to go out or allow anyone around. Just getting petrol is a massive issue for her. Now we are going into zero restrictions and no testing, she is struggling even more. The government are now basically saying to people like her ‘tough luck, get on with it and man up’. The reckless attitude could kill her and many more.
I get we have to live with it as it looks like it won’t ever go away, but is now the right time to end all the restrictions and free tests? Surely we could’ve waited until summer? | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:07 - Mar 20 with 1170 views | monytowbray |
You seem to have typoed “total and utter selfish c**nt” and wrote “mate” in your thread title. |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:12 - Mar 20 with 1161 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 07:44 - Mar 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Thanks Ryorry. I was probably young and fit when we first chatted, not so much now. I'll be 50 this year!
Out of ibuprofen now, chemists aren't open until 10/11 and to be honest I need something stronger. With doctors shut as well I'm seriously think about going back on the booze until it eases, the anaesthetic of olden times! |
Where does it hurt? |  |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:53 - Mar 20 with 1111 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:12 - Mar 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Where does it hurt? |
Throat. | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:06 - Mar 20 with 1089 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:53 - Mar 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Throat. |
Maybe you have some of these at home? Mallow root is good for a mucous layer of protection if you can get it. | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:10 - Mar 20 with 1079 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:06 - Mar 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Maybe you have some of these at home? Mallow root is good for a mucous layer of protection if you can get it. |
I've got some marshmallows if that works  | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:17 - Mar 20 with 1057 views | DJR |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 12:05 - Mar 20 by pennyfathersleg |
I’m really sorry to hear about your mum. It really is a horrible disease.
Glad to hear your children didn’t get it. My little girl has escaped the whole time too (symptomatic anyway) even though there was a massive outbreak in her school recently and me getting it!
My mum has a bad lung illness (bronchiectasis) and recently had breast cancer; if she caught covid, she would really suffer. She has really struggled with anxiety the whole time for this reason (naturally). Even now, she struggles to go out or allow anyone around. Just getting petrol is a massive issue for her. Now we are going into zero restrictions and no testing, she is struggling even more. The government are now basically saying to people like her ‘tough luck, get on with it and man up’. The reckless attitude could kill her and many more.
I get we have to live with it as it looks like it won’t ever go away, but is now the right time to end all the restrictions and free tests? Surely we could’ve waited until summer? |
Thanks. I agree that throwing caution to wind doesn't seem sensible. A friend of mine has just come back from Spain where mask-wearing is still required, and their current Covid case rate is a third of ours and falling, whereas ours is rising. I was there in September and got the distinct impression that mask-wearing was generally accepted by the Spanish people because it was for the common good. And it didn't affect at all my enjoyment of my holiday. [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 13:32]
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:22 - Mar 20 with 1047 views | ZXBlue |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 18:22 - Mar 19 by gtsb1966 |
Is it though. We are now being told that the flu is a bigger risk than COVID. If you have a temperature and a headache should you cancel everything in case it's flu. It's a hard one. |
If you have a temperature and headache you should not be going out and spreading whatever you happen to have. It not difficult. | | | |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:47 - Mar 20 with 1017 views | Ryorry |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 13:06 - Mar 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Maybe you have some of these at home? Mallow root is good for a mucous layer of protection if you can get it. |
Also liquorice, and liqourice tea (both in moderation). As you're in London you could probably get it delivered by the end of the day, if you've none already in. | |
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| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 14:22 - Mar 20 with 986 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| A very good mate of mine who is a true blue on 20:51 - Mar 19 by Lord_Lucan |
In think we were all learning from the start and are continuing to learn. I just read a very good book which covered the pandemic and all we did from the get go was do pretty much exactly what Whitty and co suggested - that was their job and we followed it. This included everything from lockdown timings, air travel, Cheltenham, mask wearing etc etc. Some of the insights into how Ferguson and others came up with data was bloody ridiculous.
What gets me is people who compare the likes of UK to NZ, or death rates to countries who record deaths in a different way - and then treat it like a bloody football league table. Or another one - South Korea, 1/ they have dealt with pandemics before, 2/ Do they think UK public would stand for that level of intrusion - government knows where you are at all times, even if you are having a sh1t.
And then there is Public Health England - This is the organisation that completely screwed everything up. Pretty much everything that was a balls up was ultimately down to PHE
Something goes right - It's the NHS
Something goes wrong - It's No 10
Successes and cock ups involved a mixture of pretty much everyone. [Post edited 19 Mar 2022 21:04]
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Heathrow airport Is (or at least was) the busiest international hub in the world. Flights landing from every corner of the world every 90 seconds throughout Feb and early March. Community spread was already in the UK before a racing event or a champions league fixture. I am not saying those events didn't contribute to the spread of the disease but literally millions of people that same week were being packed onto tubes and trains going to their offices. Covid was already here. The idea the UK could have buttoned it up in spring of 2020 was frankly laughable.
Covid was already in Europe and unfortunately a lot of what.followed was inevitable. Without being more prepared for a pandemic the focus surely should have been protecting and shielding the elderly but we saw massive mismanagement of care homes etc (Similar to New York).
Sage and co seemed to be running the show in the UK from about September 2020 onwards and the policy after we got shots into the arms of the vulnerable last winter seemed rather ridiculous to me but luckily I was living in a part of the world where things were very different.
Although I don't see it the same way as most of my friends or family in the UK and respect their opinion. My parents made me test frequently last Christmas. All seemed rather pointless giving what we were doing and how prevelient it was everywhere but I obviously done it out of respect regardless and it all worked out.
Here is an interesting study to read from JHU
https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Ana [Post edited 20 Mar 2022 14:58]
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