| Is violence ever acceptable 07:44 - Mar 29 with 7871 views | onceablue |
This will smith incident has caused massive discussion and how you should react if someone insults you or a family member
I was taught sticks and stones can break your bones but words can never hurt me
I guess we live in such a violent society that this no longer applies
It appears now unless you go round thumping people at the earliest opportunity you are no longer a man
Going back to the Wild West dates eh
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:19 - Mar 29 with 1585 views | GeoffSentence |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 11:56 - Mar 29 by Skip_Intro |
so if he called your Mother thick in front of you you'd just let it go? |
There are other responses that don't involve tw@tting someone. It is quite disturbing that a number of people seem to think that responding violently is the only valid response to offence. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:19 - Mar 29 with 1570 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:09 - Mar 29 by footers |
You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And that's coming straight from the big man. So listen up. |
Kevin Nash? |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:23 - Mar 29 with 1539 views | footers |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:19 - Mar 29 by monytowbray |
Kevin Nash? |
Think it was Mark Henry, actually. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:24 - Mar 29 with 1526 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:19 - Mar 29 by GeoffSentence |
There are other responses that don't involve tw@tting someone. It is quite disturbing that a number of people seem to think that responding violently is the only valid response to offence. |
I don’t think it is the only or best retort, and I’ve stated that above.
I think the issue is most of us have a mate or two that have got a smack when out p1ssed and come back with their tail between their legs, only to confirm what they did to get said smack and the wider group point out they were stupid to do what they did and to chalk it up as a lesson.
Hell, I’m sure many of us have been that mate at one point or another.
This certainly seems like one of those cases.
How do people feel about videos like this?
https://metro.co.uk/video/man-wearing-nazi-armband-knocked-vigilantes-1538735/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/racist-tube-punch-knocked-out-london [Post edited 29 Mar 2022 12:25]
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:24 - Mar 29 with 1520 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:23 - Mar 29 by footers |
Think it was Mark Henry, actually. |
I wonder how his hand baby is doing? | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:25 - Mar 29 with 1530 views | davblue |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:11 - Mar 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The bloke picked up an Oscar 5 minutes later. Of course it's not going to hurt his career. If anything it'll boost it. |
that was decided before he hit Chris Rock! |  | | |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:41 - Mar 29 with 1472 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I feel great about those racist scumbags getting their just desserts. Words aren't going to stop the prick on the tube, especially. A smack in the mouth might make him think twice in future. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:44 - Mar 29 with 1471 views | Guthrum |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 11:41 - Mar 29 by Enigma_Blue |
"the anger afterward's doesnt"
You do know they are actors. [Post edited 29 Mar 2022 11:44]
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But also humans. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:45 - Mar 29 with 1456 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:44 - Mar 29 by Guthrum |
But also humans. |
Reptilian shape shifters who drink the blood of children, actually… | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:45 - Mar 29 with 1465 views | clive_baker |
I think it's an important reminder for society generally that actions have consequences, first rule of life. 2nd rule being that you're responsible for your own actions. Physical violence is never the answer, that action can too have consequences, and WS could have no complaints if there's charges. Equally, act like a dick to people, shoot your mouth off and take the p1ss out of a disability that has contributed to someones anxiety and depression, don't be suprised that there may be consequences.
Maybe people should just be a little nicer to others. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:45 - Mar 29 with 1452 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:41 - Mar 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I feel great about those racist scumbags getting their just desserts. Words aren't going to stop the prick on the tube, especially. A smack in the mouth might make him think twice in future. |
I’m sure there are a few posters here who would take the NAZI LIVES MATTER TOO angle. | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:47 - Mar 29 with 1455 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:25 - Mar 29 by davblue |
that was decided before he hit Chris Rock! |
Makes no odds. People who've just won their first Oscar don't find their acting opportunities diminish.
And as I say, if anything the publicity received from the slap will enhance his opportunities. Actors have done far far worse things than Smith and still landed plumb roles. | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:49 - Mar 29 with 1457 views | J2BLUE |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:41 - Mar 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I feel great about those racist scumbags getting their just desserts. Words aren't going to stop the prick on the tube, especially. A smack in the mouth might make him think twice in future. |
I have come around to the punch a Nazi thing.
Used to think it was wrong but have slowly 180'd on that. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:55 - Mar 29 with 1442 views | SitfcB |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:10 - Mar 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't think still photographs can tell the full story.
And if it's staged, for what purpose? They've both ended up looking like dicks and Smith has had to issue an apology. |
Even on the video you can see Rock brace himself and lean forward.
FWIW I don’t think it was staged due to the reaction from Smith after but then they’re both talented actors.
Why staged? Because it’s given the Oscar’s loads of attention at a time when apparently it’s not as popular as it was. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:13 - Mar 29 with 1401 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:55 - Mar 29 by SitfcB |
Even on the video you can see Rock brace himself and lean forward.
FWIW I don’t think it was staged due to the reaction from Smith after but then they’re both talented actors.
Why staged? Because it’s given the Oscar’s loads of attention at a time when apparently it’s not as popular as it was. |
If he leans back he's going to go down, that to me is why he leans forward (we used the same principle when I did karate - you go towards your opponent not lean back).
I get that it's good attention for the Oscars, but why do those individuals agree to it when it makes them look like dicks? Why has Smith come out with an apology rather than "it was all a stunt actually"? | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:20 - Mar 29 with 1378 views | RobTheMonk |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:24 - Mar 29 by monytowbray |
I wonder how his hand baby is doing? |
Hahaha, those WWE writers must have been taking a load of drugs around that time. |  | | |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:22 - Mar 29 with 1358 views | footers |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:20 - Mar 29 by RobTheMonk |
Hahaha, those WWE writers must have been taking a load of drugs around that time. |
What do you think you'd do if Lou called Madge a raspy-voiced hag, Rob? Knock him out, presumably. | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:38 - Mar 29 with 1317 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:22 - Mar 29 by footers |
What do you think you'd do if Lou called Madge a raspy-voiced hag, Rob? Knock him out, presumably. |
I like watching old Attitude era videos where it was fine for the crowd to shout “f*gg*t” at Golddust.
These days, you can’t even call a straight bloke playing a suggestively queer and feminine wrestling character a homophobic slur or they’ll throw you in jail…
HAS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE TOO FAR?
I think that’s the challenge for many. I think said joke Rock made wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow 20 years ago. We evolve yet some people cling onto the past because something they’ve done without ever questioning has shifted into a different public conscience.
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:42 - Mar 29 with 1300 views | monytowbray |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:22 - Mar 29 by footers |
What do you think you'd do if Lou called Madge a raspy-voiced hag, Rob? Knock him out, presumably. |
Jerry King Lawler spending entire women’s matches naming as many PG slang terms for boobs as he could and not actually commentating. | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:51 - Mar 29 with 1276 views | giant_stow |
I've got no problem with those bods getting hit, but I hope someone checked the american fella afterwards - he looked out cold cold. Don't want him dead. |  |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:56 - Mar 29 with 1250 views | J2BLUE |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:42 - Mar 29 by monytowbray |
Jerry King Lawler spending entire women’s matches naming as many PG slang terms for boobs as he could and not actually commentating. |
Bring back Torrie Wilson | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:59 - Mar 29 with 1247 views | davblue |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:47 - Mar 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Makes no odds. People who've just won their first Oscar don't find their acting opportunities diminish.
And as I say, if anything the publicity received from the slap will enhance his opportunities. Actors have done far far worse things than Smith and still landed plumb roles. |
how many of those Oscar winners had slapped someone and then swore twice 40 minutes before they got their 1st Oscar? It's pretty much unprecedented so I'm not sure how you can throw him in with previous winners and say his acting opportunities won't diminish going forward with such conviction.
I don't think his career will blow up by any means but i suspect some people will be wary, whether that's right or wrong. | | | |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 14:05 - Mar 29 with 1220 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 12:19 - Mar 29 by GeoffSentence |
There are other responses that don't involve tw@tting someone. It is quite disturbing that a number of people seem to think that responding violently is the only valid response to offence. |
It's not the only valid response to offence. But offence is subjective, what offends me, may not offend others and vice versa and as such Rock should have some notion that his words may offend and so they should be used carefully.
At the end of it all, why should Jada Pinket Smith have to sit there and allow herself to be abused/made fun of/be made the butt of a joke about her alopecia? Why should Will Smith have to sit there and do the same with regard to his wife?
If he sits there and does nothing, what happens in a years time with Chris Rock? Who, by the way has a history at events like this of making comments that are right on the edge of decency and sexism, this roasting of celebrities by 'edgy' comedians was always likely to end up in a situation where this may happen.
Violence is of course, not the only answer. But given Smiths apology to Rock this morning, I think it is telling that as yet, there has been no apology to Pinkett-Smith from Chris Rock. [Post edited 29 Mar 2022 14:08]
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 14:11 - Mar 29 with 1206 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 13:59 - Mar 29 by davblue |
how many of those Oscar winners had slapped someone and then swore twice 40 minutes before they got their 1st Oscar? It's pretty much unprecedented so I'm not sure how you can throw him in with previous winners and say his acting opportunities won't diminish going forward with such conviction.
I don't think his career will blow up by any means but i suspect some people will be wary, whether that's right or wrong. |
You mean like wife-beater Johnny Depp? Yeah his career has really suffered.
Smith isn't even being charged with anything. | |
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| Is violence ever acceptable on 14:39 - Mar 29 with 1181 views | davblue |
| Is violence ever acceptable on 14:11 - Mar 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You mean like wife-beater Johnny Depp? Yeah his career has really suffered.
Smith isn't even being charged with anything. |
what's Jonny Depp been in then over the last few years? His last big role was 4 years ago.
Got dropped from a Pirates of the Caribbean film and that Harry Potter Fantastic beasts, so yeah he probably has suffered as i suspect that's cost him a lot of money and roles.
And he's never won an Oscar 40 minutes after hitting someone on stage in front of a live audience, infact he's never won an Oscar! | | | |
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