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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. 09:17 - Apr 24 with 14894 viewsFrimleyBlue

Nothing but promotion Is acceptable surely next season for both.

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FFS, some people. (n/t) on 16:04 - Apr 24 with 3026 viewsBloots

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 13:51 - Apr 24 by leitrimblue

Reported it as abuse as well .



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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:17 - Apr 24 with 2993 viewsFrimleyBlue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 15:53 - Apr 24 by PhilTWTD

I think two years into the project only reaching the play-offs would be viewed as a big failure (as finishing 11th, 10th or ninth this season will be).


I think for me, we've seen what happens when that promotion doesn't happen and how slowly the investments dropped and season by season the club got worse behind the scenes let alone on it. My concern with how the ownership works is what actually happens if the pension pot sees us fail after 2.5 seasons to go up at least 1 level.


Is now the Time to worry? Probably not. But i think it's right to share a balanced view over having just a positive, everything is rosey we have time view. I just don't think we do.

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:24 - Apr 24 with 2980 viewsChurchman

Why say such a thing? Is it because you are getting excited about the prospect of a new manager? Is it because you are still remembering the Bristol weirdo’s endless nonsense a few months ago? Is it because you yearn for Evans and the best squad in the league with a teary eye?

No ‘it’ll be interesting to see the team grow and McKenna develop as a manager’. No ‘I’m looking forward to seeing how the club on and off the pitch evolves over the next year’. Just ‘12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs’. Both have been here less than a year.

Still, you have ready support from Norwich’s Elephantintheballbag and one or two others, I’ve no doubt. Jeez.
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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:32 - Apr 24 with 2956 viewsFrimleyBlue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:24 - Apr 24 by Churchman

Why say such a thing? Is it because you are getting excited about the prospect of a new manager? Is it because you are still remembering the Bristol weirdo’s endless nonsense a few months ago? Is it because you yearn for Evans and the best squad in the league with a teary eye?

No ‘it’ll be interesting to see the team grow and McKenna develop as a manager’. No ‘I’m looking forward to seeing how the club on and off the pitch evolves over the next year’. Just ‘12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs’. Both have been here less than a year.

Still, you have ready support from Norwich’s Elephantintheballbag and one or two others, I’ve no doubt. Jeez.


It doesn't matter how KM develops as a manager if he fails to get us promoted.

I'm very interested to see if we become a promotion winning team next season.

Don't see how I could be missing Evans when I've explained how the club went downwards after not getting the promotion as he expected.

To many live with the old days mentality. As shown by another post of a 1980s football shirt.

It's all about results. Not patience. Not playing fluffy football without winning. Just winning and winning enough to get promoted.

To many posts about how we are so close. We aren't. We are 11th and miles off. Big summer ahead and 12 months for manager and ceo to show the owners they've invested in the right club and they are the right people to do it with.

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:33 - Apr 24 with 2954 viewsBiGDonnie

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 13:41 - Apr 24 by chicoazul

I know why everyone is dogpiling on Opie - TWTD loves groupthink and they’re convinced of their moral righteousness, and Opie is a bit of a dimlow - but is he wrong?


If you need to ask that question you're as thick as he is.

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:35 - Apr 24 with 2932 viewsFrimleyBlue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:33 - Apr 24 by BiGDonnie

If you need to ask that question you're as thick as he is.


So you think the owners would sit silently if we failed again then Donnie? It's OK if you think that. But why so? Give a forum discussion a go. You've taken me off ignore to comment so you must be keen to discuss it?

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:53 - Apr 24 with 2907 viewsChurchman

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:32 - Apr 24 by FrimleyBlue

It doesn't matter how KM develops as a manager if he fails to get us promoted.

I'm very interested to see if we become a promotion winning team next season.

Don't see how I could be missing Evans when I've explained how the club went downwards after not getting the promotion as he expected.

To many live with the old days mentality. As shown by another post of a 1980s football shirt.

It's all about results. Not patience. Not playing fluffy football without winning. Just winning and winning enough to get promoted.

To many posts about how we are so close. We aren't. We are 11th and miles off. Big summer ahead and 12 months for manager and ceo to show the owners they've invested in the right club and they are the right people to do it with.


Sometimes you need patience to get results. Sometimes dominating possession gives you a better chance of winning, not least because the opposition cannot score if they don’t have the ball.

Sometimes in life building foundations is worthwhile as it gives you the base from which you as a club and as a team can grow. It’s rare that a garbage football club ever gets a good team. It can happen if a genius like say Clough walks in, but they’re as rare as ….Brian Clough.

We were a garbage club, disappearing down the plug hole. We aren’t now. Build right and we will see the benefit. That’s not old school, it’s how most good things in life come about and that is what the owners are trying to do. We have the basis of a good team for this level. We can see what’s missing and I would hope KM can too.

Sorry, I just don’t think your title is fair, informative or helpful, but each to their own.
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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 17:05 - Apr 24 with 2872 viewsFrimleyBlue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:53 - Apr 24 by Churchman

Sometimes you need patience to get results. Sometimes dominating possession gives you a better chance of winning, not least because the opposition cannot score if they don’t have the ball.

Sometimes in life building foundations is worthwhile as it gives you the base from which you as a club and as a team can grow. It’s rare that a garbage football club ever gets a good team. It can happen if a genius like say Clough walks in, but they’re as rare as ….Brian Clough.

We were a garbage club, disappearing down the plug hole. We aren’t now. Build right and we will see the benefit. That’s not old school, it’s how most good things in life come about and that is what the owners are trying to do. We have the basis of a good team for this level. We can see what’s missing and I would hope KM can too.

Sorry, I just don’t think your title is fair, informative or helpful, but each to their own.


I agree and if we were a smaller club I'd probably be expecting a 2/3 year period under KM before questions would be raised.

But at this level and this alone. Our outlay is at such a level on the pitch and off it, that time isnt a gift you can give either the manager or the ceo in charge of taking the club forward.


Personal beliefs on the above tho doesn't stop what we as individuals want for the club which above all is success. I just feel sometimes people don't appreciate where we are as a club and how important success is soon before it all goes to pot again.

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 17:56 - Apr 24 with 2830 viewschicoazul

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 16:33 - Apr 24 by BiGDonnie

If you need to ask that question you're as thick as he is.


He’s not wrong Cal. You’re so discomforted by it because you know it’s true!

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 17:59 - Apr 24 with 2819 viewsSwansea_Blue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 09:24 - Apr 24 by Veggie

What a stupid, intentionally inflammatory, post. First of all, who are you to say how long certain employees have? You’re just making something up to try and cause controversy. There’s no way Ashton is going to be sacked if we don’t get promotion next season. Does Daniel Levy get sacked if Spurs don’t get Champions League football? This post is basically spam.
[Post edited 24 Apr 2022 9:25]


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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 18:04 - Apr 24 with 2808 viewsHighgateBlue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 15:28 - Apr 24 by PhilTWTD

Slightly tabloid way of putting it and obviously it's slightly early to start getting concerned about what may happen at the end of next season, but I can imagine there won't be a surfeit of patience among the owners if we don't go up next season.


Yes, and I don't suppose they're delighted about the fact that we have a lower league position than last season, and may also finish with a lower points tally. It's a mighty embarrassment in my view.
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This is a perfect example of.... on 18:28 - Apr 24 with 2774 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

This is a perfect example of.... on 16:00 - Apr 24 by Bloots

....people playing the poster and not the post.

He's right.

You bunch of weirdos.
[Post edited 24 Apr 2022 16:02]


Frimmers could say that Ipswich play in blue and certain posters would be on here firing down arrows and demanding that he’s banned (yet still responding to every one of his posts). Same with numerous other posters before him, and no doubt there will be someone else to hound around the board when they finally get their wish

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 18:42 - Apr 24 with 2752 views66notout

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 09:26 - Apr 24 by Veggie

Yep. Our biggest critic doesn’t go to games. Sums up modern football in a nutshell.


The guy with the power doesn’t go to many games either.
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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 19:28 - Apr 24 with 2707 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 09:59 - Apr 24 by FrimleyBlue

Do you have one of those radios with teles built into them, fairplay wkj. Haven't seen one of those for years. How do you get I player on it?


You’ve literally admitted on numerous occasions this season when posting as Makin that you listen on the radio to matches and not watch.

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This is a perfect example of.... on 19:32 - Apr 24 with 2697 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

This is a perfect example of.... on 16:00 - Apr 24 by Bloots

....people playing the poster and not the post.

He's right.

You bunch of weirdos.
[Post edited 24 Apr 2022 16:02]


To be fair.. he is quite clearly trolling with the way he’s worded it.

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This is a perfect example of.... on 19:51 - Apr 24 with 2671 viewsjayessess

This is a perfect example of.... on 19:32 - Apr 24 by The_Romford_Blue

To be fair.. he is quite clearly trolling with the way he’s worded it.


It's a pretty banal observation, dressed up provocatively.

Every single manager in the entire football league could conceivably have 12 months (6 even!) bad enough to cost them their job.

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 20:06 - Apr 24 with 2644 viewsFrimleyBlue

So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 19:28 - Apr 24 by The_Romford_Blue

You’ve literally admitted on numerous occasions this season when posting as Makin that you listen on the radio to matches and not watch.


No. I said I listened to 1 game on the radio as I couldn't catch the game on I follow. SB brought it up every week as I commented on Edwards losing the ball alot. Which the commentators said. But apparently as I didn't watch it, it didn't happen and couldn't be commented about.
But the usual posters cling on to 1 said thing and continue it for all eternity. Let them crack on :)



I'm intrigued by wkj using the radio tele combo tho.
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This is a perfect example of.... on 20:07 - Apr 24 with 2644 viewsFrimleyBlue

This is a perfect example of.... on 19:51 - Apr 24 by jayessess

It's a pretty banal observation, dressed up provocatively.

Every single manager in the entire football league could conceivably have 12 months (6 even!) bad enough to cost them their job.


Not quite like that tho is

KM could have what could be seen as a normally positive season by our standards and finish 6th but lose in the final.. I don't think the owners will be happy enough with that.

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This is a perfect example of.... on 20:10 - Apr 24 with 2638 viewsFrimleyBlue

This is a perfect example of.... on 19:32 - Apr 24 by The_Romford_Blue

To be fair.. he is quite clearly trolling with the way he’s worded it.


If I was trolling I'd have left the OP without responding there after.

Is it strongly worded yes as I agreed with Phil perhaps could have phrased it better. But that's my posting style. To the point.

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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 20:17 - Apr 24 with 2628 viewsMattinLondon

I don’t understand why so many people have downvoted the OP.

As much as I like the new owners and manager etc etc if we don’t go up next season (assuming we’ll have a good budget by L1 standards) then there will be no excuse for not going up. Anyway who states that ‘this is a hard division’ has drastically lowered their standards.
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This is a perfect example of.... on 20:22 - Apr 24 with 2612 viewseireblue

This is a perfect example of.... on 18:28 - Apr 24 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Frimmers could say that Ipswich play in blue and certain posters would be on here firing down arrows and demanding that he’s banned (yet still responding to every one of his posts). Same with numerous other posters before him, and no doubt there will be someone else to hound around the board when they finally get their wish


I don’t think Frimmers would say Ipswich play in blue and white.

He has a different style of posting.

He would probably say something along the lines of, “TWTD, it is time to realise ITFC will be playing in blue and white next season, and you just have to accept I am correct in what I am saying about this, and anyone that disagreed with me in the past will look silly”

Or

“I think Mark Ashton and the owners would make a big mistake if they changed the team colours to mauve and brown, I am right aren’t I, if that happened it would be a disaster, you watch what happens if that happened, you’ll see I was right.”
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So 12 months for Ashton and KM to save their jobs. on 20:38 - Apr 24 with 2585 viewshype313

Yep, hard for both to defend themselves if that happens.

However, I fully expect us to be in the mix with a few additions and a decent pre season behind us.

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This is a perfect example of.... on 20:42 - Apr 24 with 2568 viewsjayessess

This is a perfect example of.... on 20:07 - Apr 24 by FrimleyBlue

Not quite like that tho is

KM could have what could be seen as a normally positive season by our standards and finish 6th but lose in the final.. I don't think the owners will be happy enough with that.


It's exactly like that?

There's not a single manager in the EFL that would survive 12 months achieving significantly below budget - which 6th very much is.

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This is a perfect example of.... on 20:51 - Apr 24 with 2528 viewsFrimleyBlue

This is a perfect example of.... on 20:42 - Apr 24 by jayessess

It's exactly like that?

There's not a single manager in the EFL that would survive 12 months achieving significantly below budget - which 6th very much is.


Sorry misunderstood there. I just thought you meant any manager could have a nightmare season so are always 12 months away from a sacking. Apologies.

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This is a perfect example of.... on 21:01 - Apr 24 with 2509 viewsFrimleyBlue

This is a perfect example of.... on 20:22 - Apr 24 by eireblue

I don’t think Frimmers would say Ipswich play in blue and white.

He has a different style of posting.

He would probably say something along the lines of, “TWTD, it is time to realise ITFC will be playing in blue and white next season, and you just have to accept I am correct in what I am saying about this, and anyone that disagreed with me in the past will look silly”

Or

“I think Mark Ashton and the owners would make a big mistake if they changed the team colours to mauve and brown, I am right aren’t I, if that happened it would be a disaster, you watch what happens if that happened, you’ll see I was right.”


Strange take. I Don't actually say I'm right. I give my opinion on things. Like the one with flash last week. He had a view I had a view. I'm comfortable that his view is different. We certainly wouldn't end up agreeing with each other but that's life.

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