| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 09:42 - Apr 27 with 2338 views | TresBonne |
Football crowds are just a mirror to society. We now have a large amount of younger men with bugga all to look forward to, when the property ladder is so difficult to get onto, the cost of living in the country is ridiculous, jobs are harder to come by and generally, it leads to people 'living for the weekend' and living for a few pints and a tear up with their mates. |  | |  |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 09:46 - Apr 27 with 2299 views | chicoazul |
Cocaine use is a huge problem for society and ruins many public events and spaces, to say nothing of families and lives. You’re right if you’re alluding to it being the real elephant in the room that the bbc article conveniently ignores. I’ve been banging this drum for ages. |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 10:28 - Apr 27 with 2178 views | davblue |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 09:46 - Apr 27 by chicoazul |
Cocaine use is a huge problem for society and ruins many public events and spaces, to say nothing of families and lives. You’re right if you’re alluding to it being the real elephant in the room that the bbc article conveniently ignores. I’ve been banging this drum for ages. |
i was in Liverpool before Christmas and the bar we were in there was loads of people doing cocaine, i went to the toilet and there was people everywhere doing it and not giving a damn who saw them. I was a little taken aback when i saw that, i'd never seen people do it so openly before. There was people queuing to do it also. |  | | |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 12:36 - Apr 27 with 1916 views | Swansea_Blue |
Surely coke was in widespread use before the lockdown too? Probably a combination of most of the things mentioned on the thread already - drink/drugs, desperation, being let of the leash again, mirroring tribalism that's been exacerbated by the media (BLM, etc)...
My experiences mirror the article - things certainly seem to be worse. More open abuse aimed at players and fans also seem more antagonistic towards each other. Once most people went to go to football matches to support their team, now more go to abuse the opposition. I've been in some grounds where fans spend 90 mins facing each other off and barely pay any attention to the game. It's very odd. |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 12:42 - Apr 27 with 1897 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 09:42 - Apr 27 by TresBonne |
Football crowds are just a mirror to society. We now have a large amount of younger men with bugga all to look forward to, when the property ladder is so difficult to get onto, the cost of living in the country is ridiculous, jobs are harder to come by and generally, it leads to people 'living for the weekend' and living for a few pints and a tear up with their mates. |
There's certainly something in this. The latest Welsh crime figures were out yesterday and show a 20%+ increase in violent crime since the pandemic. | |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 12:46 - Apr 27 with 1880 views | NthQldITFC |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 09:46 - Apr 27 by chicoazul |
Cocaine use is a huge problem for society and ruins many public events and spaces, to say nothing of families and lives. You’re right if you’re alluding to it being the real elephant in the room that the bbc article conveniently ignores. I’ve been banging this drum for ages. |
"I’ve been banging this drum for ages."
How do you find the energy? (sorry if in poor taste) |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 13:02 - Apr 27 with 1817 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 10:28 - Apr 27 by davblue |
i was in Liverpool before Christmas and the bar we were in there was loads of people doing cocaine, i went to the toilet and there was people everywhere doing it and not giving a damn who saw them. I was a little taken aback when i saw that, i'd never seen people do it so openly before. There was people queuing to do it also. |
When I lived in Liverpool c.15 years ago coke seemed to be much more prevalent that anywhere else I had lived. |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:17 - Apr 27 with 1669 views | mutters |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 10:28 - Apr 27 by davblue |
i was in Liverpool before Christmas and the bar we were in there was loads of people doing cocaine, i went to the toilet and there was people everywhere doing it and not giving a damn who saw them. I was a little taken aback when i saw that, i'd never seen people do it so openly before. There was people queuing to do it also. |
Its not just in Liverpool, it's everywhere these days.
I used to live in London and the number of people that would just blatantly do it without even shutting the cubicle door was staggering. Likewise, many times when sat at a table with a group somebody would announce that they were off to participate and a couple of others would jump up to join in? This is in front of people who they barely know or don't know.
I now live near the Forest of Dean and it is rife here as well. This is supposed to be a quiet backwater of England.
Everywhere i go nobody seems to bother to hide it these days. |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:20 - Apr 27 with 1656 views | RobTheMonk |
My old local used to have a massive issue with it. We used to joke that it was the 'Cocaine capital' of Oxfordshire. This was in a nice, relatively affluent area too. |  | | |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:38 - Apr 27 with 1601 views | hype313 |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:17 - Apr 27 by mutters |
Its not just in Liverpool, it's everywhere these days.
I used to live in London and the number of people that would just blatantly do it without even shutting the cubicle door was staggering. Likewise, many times when sat at a table with a group somebody would announce that they were off to participate and a couple of others would jump up to join in? This is in front of people who they barely know or don't know.
I now live near the Forest of Dean and it is rife here as well. This is supposed to be a quiet backwater of England.
Everywhere i go nobody seems to bother to hide it these days. |
I was at Ascot just before lockdown and it was rife everywhere, the joke was that security guards had sniffer dogs by all the toilets, was completely moot given most people were sat on benches sniffing in open public.
The only beer on offer was Stella, that added with Columbian marching powder, I made my excuses at 5 and left sharpish, as I could see that things were about to get out of hand... |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:58 - Apr 27 with 1557 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:20 - Apr 27 by RobTheMonk |
My old local used to have a massive issue with it. We used to joke that it was the 'Cocaine capital' of Oxfordshire. This was in a nice, relatively affluent area too. |
In my old local (The Brickies) they used to spray some stuff on all the surfaces so the gear melted when you poured it out onto the surface. |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 15:00 - Apr 27 with 1541 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 12:42 - Apr 27 by Swansea_Blue |
There's certainly something in this. The latest Welsh crime figures were out yesterday and show a 20%+ increase in violent crime since the pandemic. |
I saw the same reports - but it's misleading surely as no fecker was out during the pandemic. Quite frankly I'm surprised the figure isn't higher. | |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 15:42 - Apr 27 with 1435 views | itfcjoe |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:17 - Apr 27 by mutters |
Its not just in Liverpool, it's everywhere these days.
I used to live in London and the number of people that would just blatantly do it without even shutting the cubicle door was staggering. Likewise, many times when sat at a table with a group somebody would announce that they were off to participate and a couple of others would jump up to join in? This is in front of people who they barely know or don't know.
I now live near the Forest of Dean and it is rife here as well. This is supposed to be a quiet backwater of England.
Everywhere i go nobody seems to bother to hide it these days. |
The last sentence is the key now, it's so brazen now when and where people do it - no one hides it at all |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 15:51 - Apr 27 with 1396 views | Funge |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 15:42 - Apr 27 by itfcjoe |
The last sentence is the key now, it's so brazen now when and where people do it - no one hides it at all |
I went to the Fury fight Saturday....
In the upper tier of Wembley, approx 30 mins before the ring-walk, the queue for the cubicles was twice that for the urinals. Saw a fair few people openly doing keys on and around Wembley Park station / Wembley Way too, despite, fairly hefty OB presence...
There now appears to be a tacit acceptance that coke is here to stay, almost like the attitude towards weed 15 or so years ago.
Atmosphere was immense regardless, despite a fairly crap fight - next to no aggro (certainly nothing along the lines of Italy in the summer), although I suppose pretty much everyone was there to watch Fury's de-facto coronation.... |  | | |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 16:05 - Apr 27 with 1348 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 14:17 - Apr 27 by mutters |
Its not just in Liverpool, it's everywhere these days.
I used to live in London and the number of people that would just blatantly do it without even shutting the cubicle door was staggering. Likewise, many times when sat at a table with a group somebody would announce that they were off to participate and a couple of others would jump up to join in? This is in front of people who they barely know or don't know.
I now live near the Forest of Dean and it is rife here as well. This is supposed to be a quiet backwater of England.
Everywhere i go nobody seems to bother to hide it these days. |
Sometimes backwaters can be the worst because there is nothing to do so people stuff bugle up their node instead.
It is rife and so casual the way they do it, there was that infamous picture of a spurs fan snorting it off the match day programme at FT after their last game at Whiteheart Lane.
Have to say I have found in turns one into a gibbering ar$e who can't STFU and then leaves you with a blocked nose for a week, I know ppl who are on it every weekend.
My PT (why is it all PTs are also part time drug dealers) is big fan of it and he knows people, middle class, good jobs both earning well who get through £200 a weeks worth. I don't know how once can live with the constant cold |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 16:11 - Apr 27 with 1323 views | footers |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 09:42 - Apr 27 by TresBonne |
Football crowds are just a mirror to society. We now have a large amount of younger men with bugga all to look forward to, when the property ladder is so difficult to get onto, the cost of living in the country is ridiculous, jobs are harder to come by and generally, it leads to people 'living for the weekend' and living for a few pints and a tear up with their mates. |
Totally agree. We have a society which affords few opportunities to many, with a very odd obsession with work, so it's no wonder that many see the weekend and football as one of their only outlets which leads to a culture of binge drinking and drug use.
Now European cafe culture is more where it's at. No rushing to wolf down your meal deal in Spain, Italy or France. A much better work/life balance and fewer problems with violence, binging and problematic drug use.
The weather probably helps too! |  |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 16:13 - Apr 27 with 1316 views | itfcjoe |
| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 16:05 - Apr 27 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Sometimes backwaters can be the worst because there is nothing to do so people stuff bugle up their node instead.
It is rife and so casual the way they do it, there was that infamous picture of a spurs fan snorting it off the match day programme at FT after their last game at Whiteheart Lane.
Have to say I have found in turns one into a gibbering ar$e who can't STFU and then leaves you with a blocked nose for a week, I know ppl who are on it every weekend.
My PT (why is it all PTs are also part time drug dealers) is big fan of it and he knows people, middle class, good jobs both earning well who get through £200 a weeks worth. I don't know how once can live with the constant cold |
Because PTs can't rely on alcohol to have a good time so need something without calories in it | |
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| Add to this 'routine usage of cocaine in grounds' on 17:01 - Apr 27 with 1152 views | BonneNIL |
Coked-up lunatics pose a huge risk to people going to games just to watch the football. It needs to be stamped out, along with racism, homophobia, and so on. We need to be as aggressive towards the use of drugs in the grounds as we are abusive behavior and I suspect some of it is very much linked. |  |
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