| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? 09:29 - Jul 7 with 4362 views | Chrisd |
Thoughts? |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:56 - Jul 7 with 945 views | RKD |
I would go as far as saying he is the worst Brit in living memory. Maybe 2nd behind Shipman. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:57 - Jul 7 with 939 views | leitrimblue |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:42 - Jul 7 by Wallingford_Boy |
Any labour one. |
Argh bless. Our thoughts are with you on this most difficult of days |  | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:58 - Jul 7 with 934 views | STYG |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:49 - Jul 7 by giant_stow |
Personally, I've heard people who hated Thatcher for all she did, express the opinion that at least she believed in something and at least felt she was doing the right thing for the country. Boris was only ever in it for himself, so by that measure, he's easily worse than her. Cameron as an close 2nd for sparking all this crap. |
This is the thing for me.
I remember Thatcher. She was intelligent. She was competent. She just had an absolute and unreasonable hatred for certain parts of the country and I believe, in her own deluded way, that she actually thought she was doing the best for the country, as mental as that sounds.
Boris has always been about himself. In every job including PM. The fact he refused to deny yesterday that he said 'at least the sex pests still back me' seems to show that nothing was done for the good of the country, it was all about what Boris could get and what Boris had to do or fail to do to get him there.
For me, he's much worse than Thatcher, which is absolutely incredible given all she did, but I genuinely don't see much of her decision making being about herself and whilst Boris tries to appeal to the people to be popular and further his lastability, Thatcher didn't care about being liked, she just got on with what she thought was right - even though she was absolutely insane. | | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:01 - Jul 7 with 915 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:56 - Jul 7 by Keno |
Eden made a real mess of Suez |
Hadn’t realised you were older than me.
I was actively involved back in 60’s spent election days driving around picking up known Labour voters and taking them to polling station. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:04 - Jul 7 with 905 views | Oldsmoker |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:53 - Jul 7 by Pinewoodblue |
Sir Alec Douglas Hume was far more useless than any who have followed him, including Boris Johnson.
But not many of us are old enough to remember him. |
I don't remember him. I was 10 in 1964, Howard Wilson was PM, and that's when I started to pick up on mum and dads conversations.
When Hume went, the Conservatives had a choice between Ted Heath and Enoch Powell.
We dodged a bullet there. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:10 - Jul 7 with 889 views | IpswichRising |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:39 - Jul 7 by loftboy |
I’d put Johnson, Cameron and Blair on an equal footing at the bottom of the pile.
Is it too much to ask to have a PM (or even an MP) who can actually have some kind of affiliation with the average person in the the street. |
Has everybody forgotten how bad Gordon Brown was, sold all the gold reserves to make himself look great [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 10:11]
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:12 - Jul 7 with 882 views | wkj |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:56 - Jul 7 by RKD |
I would go as far as saying he is the worst Brit in living memory. Maybe 2nd behind Shipman. |
Im not so sure - Gazza hasn't shown up at Downing Street with chicken and beer... not yet at least. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:13 - Jul 7 with 878 views | baxterbasics |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:37 - Jul 7 by Oldsmoker |
You didn't live during the '70's then?
Johnson was a poor leader - but with the levelling up agenda he wanted to help all of England. He failed.
Thatcher hated large sections of the country and set about destroying peoples jobs and lives. She succeeded. |
At risk of turning this into another Thatcher thread... that's bo((ocks. She didn't hate any section of the country. Unions picked the fight and she had to win it. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:14 - Jul 7 with 873 views | DMDC |
No he isnt. |  | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:16 - Jul 7 with 871 views | Oldsmoker |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:13 - Jul 7 by baxterbasics |
At risk of turning this into another Thatcher thread... that's bo((ocks. She didn't hate any section of the country. Unions picked the fight and she had to win it. |
Wrong.
She wanted Liverpool to fester in it's own filth.
She wanted no money to go to Liverpool Council under Derek Hatton.
Michael Heseltine talked her out of it. | |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:19 - Jul 7 with 864 views | baxterbasics |
Hume and Eden are good shouts actually - but way before my time!
Probably be a few candidates from the previous centuries but I'm not nerdy enough to know them. Maybe Lord North, under whom we lost the American colonies? | |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:21 - Jul 7 with 854 views | baxterbasics |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:10 - Jul 7 by IpswichRising |
Has everybody forgotten how bad Gordon Brown was, sold all the gold reserves to make himself look great [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 10:11]
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Well Brown did most of the damage whilst Chancellor, not PM where he didn't really do anything other than electioneer. Was effectively a caretaker PM. | |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:35 - Jul 7 with 816 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:10 - Jul 7 by IpswichRising |
Has everybody forgotten how bad Gordon Brown was, sold all the gold reserves to make himself look great [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 10:11]
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Bad judgement maybe but not willfully destructive imo. We were far from alone in selling gold reserves at the time. I don't think it really had an impact on any of us either did it? The money was reinvested and returned a treasury income. But sure, the reserves would have been worth hell of a lot more now. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:36 - Jul 7 with 818 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:42 - Jul 7 by Wallingford_Boy |
Any labour one. |
You stood out more as an edgelord when you were a sex pest. We've got loads of PTA's. |  |
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| 100%; and what is worrying is people believe he did a good job?! on 10:41 - Jul 7 with 811 views | unstableblue |
The right wing media Pravda crew and the post-truth Tory MPs have somehow managed to convince swathes of the electorate that he DID do a good job
- vaccine roll-out was not done because we were out of the EU, it was an NHS and civil service success
- PPE and test and trace were a corrupt taxpayer monies bonfire
- we have had pretty much a campagin cabinet, and not a functioning government.. from bugled Rwanda policy (see recent arrests in Europe of smuggler - that was action that was policy)
- policies like energy have been woeful
I could go on.... but then you have Brexit, this is his mess, and our economy and union are in a mess as a result
We need a new Try leader to bring the remainers back into cabinet, and to get some quality in there...... lose Dorries, Patel and the lightweight brigade |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:43 - Jul 7 with 804 views | Keno |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 10:01 - Jul 7 by Pinewoodblue |
Hadn’t realised you were older than me.
I was actively involved back in 60’s spent election days driving around picking up known Labour voters and taking them to polling station. |
actually Ive just realised that was 5 years before I was born.
I always remember it cos my dad would go on and on about it [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 10:44]
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 11:26 - Jul 7 with 755 views | pointofblue |
As said, I believe Thatcher thought she was doing right by the country, even though she did a lot of damage. Johnson was always out for himself, so the reasoning behind the damage is even worse.
Can’t buy the likes of Blair, Cameron or May being worse than him, though I wish Cameron had stayed in place and dealt with Brexit rather than scuttling off. He put the promise in the manifesto, he should have dealt with the subsequent mess. | |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 11:39 - Jul 7 with 725 views | IPS_wich |
I turned 16 in mid 1990 - so I’m not hugely qualified to reflect on Thatcher’s reign…But, the fact that I’m wondering whether Major, early Blair or early Cameron are the best prime minister of my adult life really sums up just how bloody abject our political leaders have been in living memory. | | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 11:52 - Jul 7 with 714 views | Geomorph |
No need for the question mark |  | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 11:57 - Jul 7 with 705 views | TractorBrew |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:36 - Jul 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
Cameron is ultimately responsible for the spiral of decline and break up of the country - so perhaps Johnson comes a close second. |
But was it not Boris who was instrumental in Brexit actually winning the vote? Everything the guy has done in his whole life has been about him, and he has shafted this country for the rest of my lifetime
Without doubt the worst, probably never be worse again. Fully expect/hope he faces some legal difficulties in the future | | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 12:02 - Jul 7 with 684 views | Churchman |
Yes. |  | | |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 12:03 - Jul 7 with 686 views | Whos_blue |
Hmm....
For me it really is a toss up between Pinochet dictatorship and apartheid supporting Thatcher or egomaniac and serial narcissist Johnson.
Both shamefully terrible. |  |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 12:14 - Jul 7 with 679 views | baxterbasics |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 12:03 - Jul 7 by Whos_blue |
Hmm....
For me it really is a toss up between Pinochet dictatorship and apartheid supporting Thatcher or egomaniac and serial narcissist Johnson.
Both shamefully terrible. |
Another Thatcher lie being perpetuated  | |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 12:18 - Jul 7 with 674 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 09:43 - Jul 7 by STYG |
Of course it is.
But idiots keep voting for Eton educated, Bullingdon club, pig fiddling, millionaires who've never known a days struggle in their life. |
Bit harsh calling Conservative Party members idiots.
People in the other 649 seats get to elect whoever they’d feel will best represent them. Some people even want to be represented by Peter Bone. | |
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| Johnson our worst PM in living memory? on 12:24 - Jul 7 with 653 views | Bogblue |
Wrong question.
Potentially the worst ever in UK history.
At least others made some kind of fist of caring about the country. Johnson is just a fundamentally rotten, corrupt, racist, self-serving, immoral, fascist-enabling, narcisstic slimeball, who sought and remained in office purely to grab power and wealth for himself & his sleazeball mates, and to enable his and their retention of power | | | |
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