| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... 08:45 - Nov 21 with 3180 views | itfcjoe |
...is to do with it being in the winter opposed to being in Qatar?
Hard to tell really, but I can't imagine feeling this unbothered for an opening WC game if it was a glorious June day with the promise of a few beers with mates.
It might be that I am exceedingly unpopular now, but have had no-one message to see where watching the game etc; I'll either just watch it with my Dad or head own and hope wife and youngest are there for some company to watch it there before taking my eldest to his swimming lesson at 4:30.
Dull, dull, dull - I'm sure it will pick up as we progress - but I'm thinking more about the Papa Johns game vs Pompey tomorrow currently!
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:47 - Nov 21 with 2820 views | J2BLUE |
The opposition play some part as well. Swap Iran out for the USA and I think there would be a lot more interest. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:48 - Nov 21 with 2810 views | NeedhamChris |
For me it's less the winter and more that our domestic season is still going. I'll always choose Ipswich over England and having games happening during the same period has more of an international friendly vibe than a World Cup. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:51 - Nov 21 with 2776 views | Metal_Hacker |
Same everywhere for the most Joe - in my role covering Yorkshire in a male dominated industry as a sales engineer I have been asking customers if they want to take some of their customers down the pub or something with my (the company's) funding and build some relationships.All the branch managers I've spoken to just said the thing in general isn't on their radar enough to warrant taking time out of the business.
For the most I am talking about my customers in Leeds who are a strange breed anyway but.......
The business I work for have normally pushed for such things to happen but we've had no directive at all this time
So today I find myself working from home and at 12 noon I'll head from my office downstairs to watch it and hopefully won't fall asleep like I did watching yestrday's game [Post edited 21 Nov 2022 8:52]
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:56 - Nov 21 with 2722 views | ElephantintheRoom |
It’s probably more to do with watching Premier League players not playing in the Premier League during the Premier League season. Most of the glamour and mystique of the World Cup had evaporated with money doping in the Premier League and Champions League. | |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:58 - Nov 21 with 2705 views | Leaky |
Agree with you, the World cup for me is watching it in a pub garden in shorts & t shirt having a few beers with friends & family |  | | |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:00 - Nov 21 with 2685 views | tractordownsouth |
The weather plays a part but so does the lack of build-up that comes with it being this time of year. Normally we'd have had a month without a Town game, leaving us sufficiently starved of football to generate excitement for the World Cup. It feels weird having two Town games 4 days apart with England v Iran in between.
Also probably doesn't help for me that I'm going to be in Wales for the duration of the tournament. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:05 - Nov 21 with 2655 views | Vic |
For me it’s primarily the timing. It might be different if we were 8n the Championship or Prem and we’d had the anticipation for months of everything stopping for a month or so mid season. But for us the show goes on, with the exception of a little speculation as to whether Wes would be in the Welsh squad.
It’s just out of wrack - this is the World Cup which is always the climax of the season. If it must be in winter then let all the leagues stop for it. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:12 - Nov 21 with 2601 views | BiGDonnie |
I feel the same but mainly due to Maguire getting the nod to start... |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:13 - Nov 21 with 2595 views | Steve_M |
Both in my case, but I think the general sense of not being that arsed comes from the timing and the consequent lack of build up. A month with no football tends to heighten even the most jaded of expectations but the last Premier League match was a week ago and we obviously played 48 hours ago.
There's been plenty wrong with previous tournaments - building several large stadiums wasn't a good use of South African money, especially when FIFA rules stipulate they don't pay tax to the host country on profits - but it's still been a World Cup. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:24 - Nov 21 with 2520 views | BseaBlue |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:48 - Nov 21 by NeedhamChris |
For me it's less the winter and more that our domestic season is still going. I'll always choose Ipswich over England and having games happening during the same period has more of an international friendly vibe than a World Cup. |
This definitely plays a part! Football in the summer is usual a bonus and extension to the calendar. Having it now just seems like more of an inconvenience than anything else. |  | | |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:35 - Nov 21 with 2461 views | clive_baker |
Think it's a combination of the morality of the whole thing, the fact it isn't in summer is definitely a factor as it just doesn't feel like a World Cup. Also that the opening game (and opening England game) involve relatively uninspiring sides.
I also think the fans make a huge difference, we saw during Covid lockdowns how compromised football is without the colours and the atmosphere. I hope we still see a lot of that, but I know very few England fans have made the trip compared to previous tournaments, and would imagine it's similar for other nations. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:41 - Nov 21 with 2401 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:44 - Nov 21 with 2379 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
Don't really care what time of year it is, I'm not someone that needs a beer garden or even a beer to get excited about football. Progressively getting more and more tired of Qatar and FIFA's obvious BS though. They are pathetic and corrupt and the fact that after knowing about the OneLove armband for months, they decide to threaten punishment for wearing it on the day of the first team to wear it's game is absolutely scandalous.
I also think the sad reality is, a World Cup is meant to showcase not just the football, but a country's new identity. A new appreciation for what South Africa had become, the excitement of football taking of in South Korea and Japan... After this competition, I can't see any greater appreciation of Arab states emerging. Surely intolerance and Islam phobia will rise, given that all of the easy arguments about a lack of progressive society are becoming harder and harder to deny by the day. It's an absolute shambles that they've pulled this move today and I hope Kane still wears it. | |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:48 - Nov 21 with 2339 views | jayessess |
For me, the Winter is a pain because it messes with Ipswich's schedule, nothing more than that really. I'd watch it all but I just can't get past the fact of so much death directly related to the tournament itself.
Most nation states have questions to answer on human rights (how many European states sell the Qataris military equipment?), every global sports event has detrimental social impacts (thousands were forcibly evicted for the Brazil World Cup for instance), but for me there was a line here where 1000s died essentially to bring an entertainment event to people like me. Too much. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:50 - Nov 21 with 2320 views | Bobbychase |
There is an element of that. But I've been to two World Cups and one Euros and the magic of it is the mixing of thousands of people from different nations, drinking together, singing together etc. Qatar doesn't even have a league, had to build a football infrastructure from scratch and there will be zero legacy apart from a few empty stadiums they will no longer need. The beer thing - people miss the point. It's not that "fans need a drink to watch football", it's that during the bidding process they said beer would be allowed, and now they've changed their minds. And this after bribing several people for their votes.
Add in all the human rights stuff - particularly the deaths of people who built the stadiums - and it's a stain on FIFA that they should never be allowed to wipe off. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:53 - Nov 21 with 2293 views | Keno |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 08:58 - Nov 21 by Leaky |
Agree with you, the World cup for me is watching it in a pub garden in shorts & t shirt having a few beers with friends & family |
In fairness there is nothing stopping you still doing that!! |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:54 - Nov 21 with 2293 views | WeWereZombies |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:35 - Nov 21 by clive_baker |
Think it's a combination of the morality of the whole thing, the fact it isn't in summer is definitely a factor as it just doesn't feel like a World Cup. Also that the opening game (and opening England game) involve relatively uninspiring sides.
I also think the fans make a huge difference, we saw during Covid lockdowns how compromised football is without the colours and the atmosphere. I hope we still see a lot of that, but I know very few England fans have made the trip compared to previous tournaments, and would imagine it's similar for other nations. |
Generally agree with that except for the statement that England's game is against an uninspiring side. With the protests going on in Iran at the moment (and The Iranian captain's support for the protests https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63696125 ) the opposition have the opportunity to make political statements of their own through playing the beautiful game well. It will be interesting to see if Iran also take the knee at the same time as England. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 09:57 - Nov 21 with 2272 views | Ryorry |
0 of mine is related to it being in winter. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 10:12 - Nov 21 with 2201 views | TalkingBlues |
Wayyyyy more interest in ITFC than England here. This is only the second time, in almost 2 decades, that I have believed we are a genuine contender for automatic promotion.
It feels to me that there has also been far less marketing hype for the WC than previous years, which is largely unsurprising given that I imagine far fewer companies to be clambering over each other to be associated with a nation known for a variety of human rights violations and discriminatory practices. Having spent many years and £ multi millions in marketing, attempting to make themselves appealing to as many demographics as possible, corporate businesses would be scoring an own goal here (sorry, couldn't help myself).
The weather doesn't help either, I'd rather be sitting indoors in my pants, eating a roast dinner, than cavorting around at the pub at £45 a round. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 10:23 - Nov 21 with 2133 views | Stewart27 |
I think it’s a bit of both.
Really bizarre situation. Can’t ever remember being in a position where I haven’t arranged to watch an England tournament match with mates or family. Be it down the boozer or round somebody’s house.
I’m actually going to work, record it, switch off all comms and watch it on my own tonight with the beers I’ve just purchased as the missus and kids are out.
I’m quite looking forward to it, but it’s a pretty sad state of affairs! | | | |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 10:32 - Nov 21 with 2106 views | DinDjarin |
Am hoping that people still want to see live football and head to their local championship / league 1 / 2 or non league club which will help them financially. |  | | |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 10:48 - Nov 21 with 2025 views | Sarge |
My disgust at this World Cup is due to all the well-known corruption and human rights issues and that would have probably led me to mostly boycott it although it would have been a bit of a wrench to do so.
The fact that it’s in winter means it’s not a wrench at all, and is 100% the reason for my complete disinterest as opposed to disgust. I just can’t get excited about a tournament when the domestic season is in full swing and it’s miserable outside and there are f’cking christmas songs in the shops and on tv. | | | |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 10:53 - Nov 21 with 1995 views | vilanovablue |
I'll be watching as our entire company has permission to do so but I'm in no way hyped up for. It's a combination of it being in winter and Qatar it really does take the gloss off. The fact Ipswich are still playing and flying high doesn't help much! |  | | |
| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 11:12 - Nov 21 with 1942 views | LankHenners |
All the above in this thread basically. This is an England/Europe-centred selfish point but I'll add that the timing of matches isn't very exciting - a World Cup match while you have breakfast is a nice treat but mid-morning is difficult to watch for most, plus the latest game being 7pm feels too early for me, a bit more of a buzz if there's a game at, say, 9pm.
Also knowing that the games played at lunchtime/early afternoon Qatar time are going to be so hot and humid that teams will conserve energy which is likely to result in very slow, dull games.
In terms of today, England Iran is between two teams with a gap in quality but both like to play very passively, not giving up much space etc. which doesn't inspire. Actually have more interest in the USA Wales match from a footballing perspective as it's later in the day where, by reports, the temperature and humidity is toned right down and it's quite pleasant like a cool summer's evening plus it's two teams that will give it a bit more of a go. |  |
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| How much of people's apathy to the World Cup.... on 11:47 - Nov 21 with 1829 views | Illinoisblue |
Club over country every time, Ipswich is my England.
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