| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley 14:42 - Dec 28 with 7901 views | unstableblue |
Was over on Owlstalk as I do… and beyond the concerns over Moore, and his style and a lack of a plan B… one thing that really strikes me is:
A) how confident they remain over securing an automatic slot - “playing badly but still on course”
They are also sighting a run of tough fixtures for us and Plymouth.
B) They still don’t seem to rate Ipswich and Plymouth despite our position and first half of the season form
C) They have this obsession that Barnsley are going to run them close, along some references to Derby
Barnsley are 9 points off Weds and 11 from us, with 2 games in hand
This board seems to see the automatic as a 3 horse race.. are we not giving other teams enough credit?? |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 17:47 - Dec 28 with 2378 views | Illinoisblue |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 15:35 - Dec 28 by davblue |
I’m not convinced they’ve got enough goals in them to trouble the top 2. |
If they’re relying on Norwood to stay fit….. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 17:55 - Dec 28 with 2331 views | BlueBadger |
I still always read that as 'owl stalk'. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 18:04 - Dec 28 with 2309 views | BlueBadger |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 16:37 - Dec 28 by Dubtractor |
2 things.
1) I'm assuming that I'm not the only one who reads that forum name as 'Owl Stalk' whenever I see it?
2) Outside of the top 3, no one has yet shown they have the consistency to close the gap. Barnsley have just had a little run, but before that had only 4 points from a possible 15, and they don't score very many. Bolton have been pretty inconsistent all season, and again don't score very many. Derby get lots of draws and another team who don't score enough. Wycombe's form in the last few months is decent, but 13 points is a hell of a big gap to overturn.
I've been saying it for a few months, but I'm pretty certain the top 2 will end up as 2 of the current top 3. |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 18:28 - Dec 28 with 2272 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 17:22 - Dec 28 by Hipsterectomy |
i've had a look a few times and they seem to have genuine confusion as to why we're doing better than them re: squad vs squad
I don't think there's many sheff wed players we would have in our team and Bakinson was a player our coaches felt wasn't good enough who seems to play most games |
Can we buy Whitaker off of Swansea to scupper Plymouth!
And
If Bannon gets injured S Wednesday hopes will need to be revised.
Hopefully the rest of the season goes as the 1st half has. |  | | |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 18:46 - Dec 28 with 2222 views | Churchman |
My concern is that we’ve not beaten anyone above us this season. McKenna out!! Booo!
Right, the reality is that after half the season we are second. Who of the teams around us outplayed us? None of them. Plymouth did well against us, SW scraped a lucky draw, Barnsley the same etc etc.
So who do we have to fear? Nobody. SW think we are a little club of L1 nobodies with a tiny squad, minuscule support that can’t compete with the big boys - i.e. them. Good. I’m glad they think that way. I actually like Wednesday and their supporters. The real deal, but I think their perspective is a bit out at the moment.
Yes we have a hard run of fixtures, but all bar Plymouth are beneath us. Nothing to fear there then. If we struggle in the next two or three games, I still think there’s a very good chance we will run away with this rubbish division by seasons end. We are that good and in a great position - it’s up to us. The Oxford game was very important. A team on a good run and we’ve struggled to put sides away in recent weeks. We did them.
All in all, as a club we are in a very good place. |  | | |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 20:07 - Dec 28 with 2127 views | ArnieM |
The top two places will be decided on by who performs best in the games against each other eg
Town vs Plymouth and Sheff Weds
Plymouth vs Sheff Weds
We’re playing them both at home … not sure if that’s an advantage for us if not tbh given how teams set up here . But 6 points is absolutely 100% pivotal to where we go from there on in in my humble view.
I don’t think Plymouth travel very well, so got to hope their game vs Sheff is at Home Park.
In many ways I don’t care what Plymouth do. It’s Sheffield I want to see drop points. Then there’s a gap between us and 3rd.
Plymouth have history of dropping off the pace but tbh there’s no sign of that this season. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 20:14 - Dec 28 with 2110 views | J2BLUE |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 20:07 - Dec 28 by ArnieM |
The top two places will be decided on by who performs best in the games against each other eg
Town vs Plymouth and Sheff Weds
Plymouth vs Sheff Weds
We’re playing them both at home … not sure if that’s an advantage for us if not tbh given how teams set up here . But 6 points is absolutely 100% pivotal to where we go from there on in in my humble view.
I don’t think Plymouth travel very well, so got to hope their game vs Sheff is at Home Park.
In many ways I don’t care what Plymouth do. It’s Sheffield I want to see drop points. Then there’s a gap between us and 3rd.
Plymouth have history of dropping off the pace but tbh there’s no sign of that this season. |
While losing those games would be bad there is no way a 23 game mini season is going to come down to just those games. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 20:25 - Dec 28 with 2077 views | ArnieM |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 20:14 - Dec 28 by J2BLUE |
While losing those games would be bad there is no way a 23 game mini season is going to come down to just those games. |
Sorry didn’t say. I was making the assumption that the top 3 teams continue in their current form. Which of course is always open to change …. | |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 20:37 - Dec 28 with 2032 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 21:04 - Dec 28 with 1993 views | unstableblue |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 18:46 - Dec 28 by Churchman |
My concern is that we’ve not beaten anyone above us this season. McKenna out!! Booo!
Right, the reality is that after half the season we are second. Who of the teams around us outplayed us? None of them. Plymouth did well against us, SW scraped a lucky draw, Barnsley the same etc etc.
So who do we have to fear? Nobody. SW think we are a little club of L1 nobodies with a tiny squad, minuscule support that can’t compete with the big boys - i.e. them. Good. I’m glad they think that way. I actually like Wednesday and their supporters. The real deal, but I think their perspective is a bit out at the moment.
Yes we have a hard run of fixtures, but all bar Plymouth are beneath us. Nothing to fear there then. If we struggle in the next two or three games, I still think there’s a very good chance we will run away with this rubbish division by seasons end. We are that good and in a great position - it’s up to us. The Oxford game was very important. A team on a good run and we’ve struggled to put sides away in recent weeks. We did them.
All in all, as a club we are in a very good place. |
Great post
Only Plymouth have looked better than us this season.
Town beat themselves against the like if Wycombe by raising our energy, and defensive silliness.
Thought we deserved a win at Hillsborough this season, last season I thought Weds looked the stronger side.
If Burns, Chaplin, Ladapo and Harness get consistent, and play like Boxing Day, we go up.
Teams now know how good we are and some of our tactics, and will raise their game.
A long way to go. But have loved this season. And I trust in the project. | |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 21:31 - Dec 28 with 1927 views | SpruceMoose |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 17:47 - Dec 28 by Illinoisblue |
If they’re relying on Norwood to stay fit….. |
Or sober. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 21:57 - Dec 28 with 1874 views | DinnernotTea |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 21:04 - Dec 28 by unstableblue |
Great post
Only Plymouth have looked better than us this season.
Town beat themselves against the like if Wycombe by raising our energy, and defensive silliness.
Thought we deserved a win at Hillsborough this season, last season I thought Weds looked the stronger side.
If Burns, Chaplin, Ladapo and Harness get consistent, and play like Boxing Day, we go up.
Teams now know how good we are and some of our tactics, and will raise their game.
A long way to go. But have loved this season. And I trust in the project. |
I don't think Plymouth were better than us. For the last 15 minutes yes but we were fine up until then and from 45th - 70th minute should've gone 2 or 3 in front. They annoyingly turned it on in the last 20 or so. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 22:26 - Dec 28 with 1828 views | bournemouthblue |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 18:28 - Dec 28 by BtreeBlueBlood |
Can we buy Whitaker off of Swansea to scupper Plymouth!
And
If Bannon gets injured S Wednesday hopes will need to be revised.
Hopefully the rest of the season goes as the 1st half has. |
Luongo joining on a free would have a nice symmetry to it as well
Seems like a fairly sensible signing if he does join |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 22:31 - Dec 28 with 1814 views | bournemouthblue |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 21:04 - Dec 28 by unstableblue |
Great post
Only Plymouth have looked better than us this season.
Town beat themselves against the like if Wycombe by raising our energy, and defensive silliness.
Thought we deserved a win at Hillsborough this season, last season I thought Weds looked the stronger side.
If Burns, Chaplin, Ladapo and Harness get consistent, and play like Boxing Day, we go up.
Teams now know how good we are and some of our tactics, and will raise their game.
A long way to go. But have loved this season. And I trust in the project. |
If we strengthen in January, which is quite possible
I'd be very disappointed if we don't make automatic promotion this season but it might be one of those freak seasons where three break away and someone misses out
January is very important for Plymouth too, there's a danger of the likes of Mumba and Whittaker leaving | |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 23:39 - Dec 28 with 1766 views | RedX |
I give the odd look in at their forum and can’t belirve they are so far up their own holes. According to them they are not in good form but this shows how good they are, and when they hit form they’ll walk the league.
They don’t really rate any other team in the league tbh. I’d love to see them miss out through the play offs but expect ourselves and them to go straight up. |  | | |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 23:56 - Dec 28 with 1748 views | textbackup |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 22:31 - Dec 28 by bournemouthblue |
If we strengthen in January, which is quite possible
I'd be very disappointed if we don't make automatic promotion this season but it might be one of those freak seasons where three break away and someone misses out
January is very important for Plymouth too, there's a danger of the likes of Mumba and Whittaker leaving |
Mumba could get called back with scum having a new manager coming in, might want to take a look at him. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 00:25 - Dec 29 with 1703 views | XYZ |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 15:30 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
No in summary I think Barnsley are part of the pack and shouldn't be discounted yet.
Hopefully they won't trouble us which will mean we've had a great 2nd half of the season to follow the first.
But I wouldn't say the top 3 as it stands at present are fully safe as a 3 as yet.
I'm confident though with our returning players and Jan. We will have enough about us not to have to worry.. it's the likes of Wednesday if they lose bannan or plymouth if they lose cooper that imo need to worry more. |
"But I wouldn't say the top 3 as it stands at present are fully safe as a 3 as yet."
Are you the Einstein of L1 analysis?
(Spoiler: No.) | | | |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 00:33 - Dec 29 with 1692 views | bournemouthblue |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 23:56 - Dec 28 by textbackup |
Mumba could get called back with scum having a new manager coming in, might want to take a look at him. |
Looks better than the left back they had playing the other night | |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 07:20 - Dec 29 with 1598 views | Kropotkin123 |
Barnsley are top of the 8 game form table, having played all of the bottom five teams in that time. Despite playing the weakest teams in the division, they've only managed 1 more point than us across those games.
The idea that they are going to overtake Plymouth (gain 14 points on them), us (gain 12 points), or Sheffield Wednesday (gain 10 points) is crazy and would need a Portsmouth style capitulation.
Sheffield Wednesday, the team with the least points out of the three, have only lost 3 games this season, and we are expecting Barnsley to make up 10 points. Their games in hand are against Portsmouth and Oxford. Not exactly points on the board.
People are making far too much of temporary form, when all they've done is average 2 points a game for 8 games. For context, that's less than both Plymouth and Ipswich have averaged across 23 games. |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 09:48 - Dec 29 with 1468 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 07:20 - Dec 29 by Kropotkin123 |
Barnsley are top of the 8 game form table, having played all of the bottom five teams in that time. Despite playing the weakest teams in the division, they've only managed 1 more point than us across those games.
The idea that they are going to overtake Plymouth (gain 14 points on them), us (gain 12 points), or Sheffield Wednesday (gain 10 points) is crazy and would need a Portsmouth style capitulation.
Sheffield Wednesday, the team with the least points out of the three, have only lost 3 games this season, and we are expecting Barnsley to make up 10 points. Their games in hand are against Portsmouth and Oxford. Not exactly points on the board.
People are making far too much of temporary form, when all they've done is average 2 points a game for 8 games. For context, that's less than both Plymouth and Ipswich have averaged across 23 games. |
Even if they averaged exactly 2 points per game for their remaining fixtures they still wouldn't make the top 2! 87 points will not be enough. | | | |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 10:08 - Dec 29 with 1437 views | Dyland |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 15:43 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Just meant the draws we had and dropped points.
Nothing major and didn't lead into anything drastic. But those little blips let some points slide. If that was our season blip then fab it means the rest of season will be fun. |
We drew two home games in a row I think. Strictly speaking I guess that's a 'drop in form' from winning all the time, but it's pretty inaccurate re the recognised sense of the term.
I'm sure most sensible Owls fans, and indeed any from the chasing pack, will be viewing Town and Argyle as the consistent form teams (because they demonstrably are)... and I'd guess any football fan with a vague clue will know exactly why Town are doing well, and probably have us favourites for top spot.
As Illers commented, one of the most important (relative to modern footy times) five months in the club's history incoming...
COYFB |  |
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| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 21:22 - Dec 29 with 1273 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Owlstalk obsession with Barnsley on 10:08 - Dec 29 by Dyland |
We drew two home games in a row I think. Strictly speaking I guess that's a 'drop in form' from winning all the time, but it's pretty inaccurate re the recognised sense of the term.
I'm sure most sensible Owls fans, and indeed any from the chasing pack, will be viewing Town and Argyle as the consistent form teams (because they demonstrably are)... and I'd guess any football fan with a vague clue will know exactly why Town are doing well, and probably have us favourites for top spot.
As Illers commented, one of the most important (relative to modern footy times) five months in the club's history incoming...
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Did somebody mention Norwood? | |
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