| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? 10:32 - Jan 11 with 10188 views | itfcpaul |
What are your thoughts about whether we need more signings and if so, in which areas of the pitch, or has anyone any rumours about possible incomings? |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:19 - Jan 11 with 2367 views | chicoazul |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:03 - Jan 11 by ITFC_Josh |
Are we actually pursing Whittaker? Seems like it’s more of a rumour than anything |
We definitely are. If you see a fiver on the floor you pick it up regardless of how many you already have in your wallet.
My bet is a centre half to upgrade on Burgess. |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:20 - Jan 11 with 2350 views | SitfcB |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:13 - Jan 11 by ITFC_Josh |
Understandable, but couldn’t the deal be sealed before hand and he just gets left out of the squad for Saturday? |
Would cause issue with a lot of our fans I’m sure  |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:21 - Jan 11 with 2333 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:13 - Jan 11 by blueislander |
You really are obsessed with Burns aren’t you? |
No, I'm just pointing out in reply to the OP where I think we can still improve with a new signing. |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:01 - Jan 11 with 2198 views | Slimitfc91 |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:21 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
No, I'm just pointing out in reply to the OP where I think we can still improve with a new signing. |
Do you feel that an improvement on Burns is more of a priority than that of Donacien or Burgess ?, both of the latter would struggle in the championship imo | | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:27 - Jan 11 with 2125 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:01 - Jan 11 by Slimitfc91 |
Do you feel that an improvement on Burns is more of a priority than that of Donacien or Burgess ?, both of the latter would struggle in the championship imo |
If a player who's champ ready is available then of course I would look to get them in for any position. But I think defence is alot harder to find those specific players especially in the Jan window. If there is one we can get then absolutely go for it.
But I really want to see someone who can really take us to the next level on that right hand side.
With Burns this season. Similar to Donacien in that he gets in great positions and at times he puts great balls in. But according to the below he has a 32% cross completion rate.
https://footystats.org/players/wales/wes-burns
He's a solid player. And I'm not saying bin him off at all. But his only rival for that Position is Jackson who has a 16% cross completion rate. 0 assists and only 129 completed passes out of 218. ( league stats) [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 14:11]
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:28 - Jan 11 with 2129 views | itfcpaul |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:01 - Jan 11 by Slimitfc91 |
Do you feel that an improvement on Burns is more of a priority than that of Donacien or Burgess ?, both of the latter would struggle in the championship imo |
I think Burgess is OK, I think the one to worry about is Keogh | |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:53 - Jan 11 with 2055 views | StokieBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:27 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
If a player who's champ ready is available then of course I would look to get them in for any position. But I think defence is alot harder to find those specific players especially in the Jan window. If there is one we can get then absolutely go for it.
But I really want to see someone who can really take us to the next level on that right hand side.
With Burns this season. Similar to Donacien in that he gets in great positions and at times he puts great balls in. But according to the below he has a 32% cross completion rate.
https://footystats.org/players/wales/wes-burns
He's a solid player. And I'm not saying bin him off at all. But his only rival for that Position is Jackson who has a 16% cross completion rate. 0 assists and only 129 completed passes out of 218. ( league stats) [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 14:11]
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Just one caveat with that analysis, cross completion does also rely on the people in the box being in decent positions.
Now I tend to agree that Burns is pretty hit and miss with his crossing but you've said the same about Davis and I think that's fundamentally untrue. An excellent example was a cross Davis did on the half-volley in our last match. It was superb, right across the box in the right area but nobody got on the end of it and they really should have. That will count as an uncompleted cross but in reality it should count as a chance created.
Just an observation.
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:59 - Jan 11 with 2033 views | bluelady |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:13 - Jan 11 by ITFC_Josh |
Understandable, but couldn’t the deal be sealed before hand and he just gets left out of the squad for Saturday? |
whose to say it wont be but not announced till after....... |  | | |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:03 - Jan 11 with 1993 views | GeoffSentence |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:27 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
If a player who's champ ready is available then of course I would look to get them in for any position. But I think defence is alot harder to find those specific players especially in the Jan window. If there is one we can get then absolutely go for it.
But I really want to see someone who can really take us to the next level on that right hand side.
With Burns this season. Similar to Donacien in that he gets in great positions and at times he puts great balls in. But according to the below he has a 32% cross completion rate.
https://footystats.org/players/wales/wes-burns
He's a solid player. And I'm not saying bin him off at all. But his only rival for that Position is Jackson who has a 16% cross completion rate. 0 assists and only 129 completed passes out of 218. ( league stats) [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 14:11]
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0 assists? I don't know if you can cast your mind back as far as Saturday...... |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:04 - Jan 11 with 1983 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:03 - Jan 11 by GeoffSentence |
0 assists? I don't know if you can cast your mind back as far as Saturday...... |
I was on the league stats. | |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:10 - Jan 11 with 1953 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:53 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
Just one caveat with that analysis, cross completion does also rely on the people in the box being in decent positions.
Now I tend to agree that Burns is pretty hit and miss with his crossing but you've said the same about Davis and I think that's fundamentally untrue. An excellent example was a cross Davis did on the half-volley in our last match. It was superb, right across the box in the right area but nobody got on the end of it and they really should have. That will count as an uncompleted cross but in reality it should count as a chance created.
Just an observation.
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Tbf SB I agree to a point and the completed crosses I had deleted. Then re added again as I felt similar to you. But then I thought whilst yes it helps if others make the perfect timed runs etc.. you can't also ignore the ones which don't actually go past the first man or headed away with ease with no town player near him. So that's why I left it in.
On davis. Overall hes OK delivery wise. Some could be better but I see him improving on that anyway within his development. | |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:12 - Jan 11 with 1941 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:15 - Jan 11 by BigCommon |
Not sure I even want him here, tbf...Hes been less than complimentary towards us with some of his SM. Apart from anything else, this shows a very unprofessional side to him. Not sure he'll fit in. |
Which part of his social media? |  | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:13 - Jan 11 with 1940 views | Slimitfc91 |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:28 - Jan 11 by itfcpaul |
I think Burgess is OK, I think the one to worry about is Keogh |
Do you honestly think that Keogh is being considered as a player for next season ? | | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:17 - Jan 11 with 1919 views | catch74 |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:28 - Jan 11 by itfcpaul |
I think Burgess is OK, I think the one to worry about is Keogh |
I guess ideally more of a ball playing left sided centre back as a starter, Keogh to coaching and Burgess as back up. Edmundson seemed full of beans v Rotherham, definitely better on the right side as cover for Woolfenden. Ndaba if he’d played more and kicked on loads would have been useful. |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:17 - Jan 11 with 1920 views | OldFart71 |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:19 - Jan 11 by chicoazul |
We definitely are. If you see a fiver on the floor you pick it up regardless of how many you already have in your wallet.
My bet is a centre half to upgrade on Burgess. |
My wife said to me "If you have a fiver in your left hand trouser pocket and a fiver in your right hand trouser pocket, what do you have ?" I replied " Someone else's trousers on " | | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:25 - Jan 11 with 1866 views | itfcsuth |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:02 - Jan 11 by Kieran_Knows |
But if players come available which McKenna thinks are better than what we have available, and those players are available for the right price, then you're going to go for them (hence our pursuit of Whittaker and Taylor). |
Of course, but that is same for every single club throughout every division - but actively pursuing for any position, I'm not so sure.
Posh playing silly figures with Taylor at the moment anyway, and last I heard there was little in the Whittaker story, especially from the player side. |  | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:30 - Jan 11 with 1847 views | StokieBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:10 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbf SB I agree to a point and the completed crosses I had deleted. Then re added again as I felt similar to you. But then I thought whilst yes it helps if others make the perfect timed runs etc.. you can't also ignore the ones which don't actually go past the first man or headed away with ease with no town player near him. So that's why I left it in.
On davis. Overall hes OK delivery wise. Some could be better but I see him improving on that anyway within his development. |
It's interesting how people see things differently isn't it?
I think Davis is far better than "OK" for delivery. If we look at the stats website you have provided then:
Assists - 95th percentile
Expected Assists - 97th percentile
Key Passes - 99th percentile
Crosses - 98th percentile
Successful Crosses - 99th percentile
Cross Completion Rate - 89th percentile
So amongst his peers in the division one must surely conclude that his delivery is superb?
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:38 - Jan 11 with 1827 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:30 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
It's interesting how people see things differently isn't it?
I think Davis is far better than "OK" for delivery. If we look at the stats website you have provided then:
Assists - 95th percentile
Expected Assists - 97th percentile
Key Passes - 99th percentile
Crosses - 98th percentile
Successful Crosses - 99th percentile
Cross Completion Rate - 89th percentile
So amongst his peers in the division one must surely conclude that his delivery is superb?
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*drops mic* | | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:38 - Jan 11 with 1824 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:30 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
It's interesting how people see things differently isn't it?
I think Davis is far better than "OK" for delivery. If we look at the stats website you have provided then:
Assists - 95th percentile
Expected Assists - 97th percentile
Key Passes - 99th percentile
Crosses - 98th percentile
Successful Crosses - 99th percentile
Cross Completion Rate - 89th percentile
So amongst his peers in the division one must surely conclude that his delivery is superb?
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For where he can go on football he's at a good level so far of course. He can go along way. And there's some opportunities he's not quite made the most of at times but that will come with age and further experience.
I'm happy to say he's OK for now and see how he gets on when we go up a level.
He's currently based on that site at 38% crossing completion. Again its up to the reader of the stats if they use it or not. But it doesn't say if that includes corners.. which of course changes things slightly. It doesn't mention it but of course shows his assist figures which we know some have been via corners.
As I say tho. I like davis. Lots to develop and he's doing well.
Just need better on the right [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 14:45]
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:42 - Jan 11 with 1818 views | BseaBlue |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:30 - Jan 11 by StokieBlue |
It's interesting how people see things differently isn't it?
I think Davis is far better than "OK" for delivery. If we look at the stats website you have provided then:
Assists - 95th percentile
Expected Assists - 97th percentile
Key Passes - 99th percentile
Crosses - 98th percentile
Successful Crosses - 99th percentile
Cross Completion Rate - 89th percentile
So amongst his peers in the division one must surely conclude that his delivery is superb?
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There is no argument there at all! In fact, some of his team mates should be looking to take a leif out of his book........sorry.
I had this discusion with a town fan yesterday and they said that they felt it was the movement in the box which was poorer than the quality of the balls in. I hadnt thought of it that way but think its an excellent point. |  | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 14:46 - Jan 11 with 1796 views | ITFCBlues |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:06 - Jan 11 by Kieran_Knows |
Yes, we are. |
Interesting. Def info?
I know Phil said something may well happen. Hope so, would really seal a top window for us |  |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 18:40 - Jan 11 with 1580 views | SitfcB |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:15 - Jan 11 by BigCommon |
Not sure I even want him here, tbf...Hes been less than complimentary towards us with some of his SM. Apart from anything else, this shows a very unprofessional side to him. Not sure he'll fit in. |
Because he posted a load of pictures which happened to include him scoring a goal against us?
Some people don’t half read way too much into things. | |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 19:01 - Jan 11 with 1532 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 12:21 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
No, I'm just pointing out in reply to the OP where I think we can still improve with a new signing. |
If this was Burns' first season we'd be really happy with him. His spectacular last season has not helped people judging him this season. He's been absolutely fine.
All that said I'd wouldn't complain if we somehow got Whittaker. I really think Edwards is a great option there though too. And you also have Jackson who performed really well down the right the other day.
1 more signing I reckon. But perfectly happy if no more. | | | |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 08:51 - Jan 12 with 1252 views | itfcpaul |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 19:01 - Jan 11 by Nutkins_Return |
If this was Burns' first season we'd be really happy with him. His spectacular last season has not helped people judging him this season. He's been absolutely fine.
All that said I'd wouldn't complain if we somehow got Whittaker. I really think Edwards is a great option there though too. And you also have Jackson who performed really well down the right the other day.
1 more signing I reckon. But perfectly happy if no more. |
Whittaker would be an amazing signing to challenge Burns for that spot | |
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| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 08:57 - Jan 12 with 1246 views | itfcjoe |
| Any more signings? Or do we think we have done for the season? on 13:27 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
If a player who's champ ready is available then of course I would look to get them in for any position. But I think defence is alot harder to find those specific players especially in the Jan window. If there is one we can get then absolutely go for it.
But I really want to see someone who can really take us to the next level on that right hand side.
With Burns this season. Similar to Donacien in that he gets in great positions and at times he puts great balls in. But according to the below he has a 32% cross completion rate.
https://footystats.org/players/wales/wes-burns
He's a solid player. And I'm not saying bin him off at all. But his only rival for that Position is Jackson who has a 16% cross completion rate. 0 assists and only 129 completed passes out of 218. ( league stats) [Post edited 11 Jan 2023 14:11]
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Literally next to where it shows he has a 32& cross completion rate it shows that that figure is in the 81st percentile of the league, so it's clearly not a stick to beat him with. |  |
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