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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season 22:13 - Feb 11 with 6297 viewsRIPbobby

The first game when they consistently threw objects at our keeper and linesman. Hence the late offside goal was not given as lino was afraid for his life. What did the EFL do nothing.

Today's match at 0-0 big Johnson elbows burns, lino sees it but can't pinpoint the culprit. Penalty, but no red.

So what have we learnt from them? We play fair and they cheat better. I'm surprised they didn't try and play with 12 or 13 players. Lol

So in the EFL cheats prosper.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:20 - Feb 11 with 4419 viewsPowrigan

Good for them and it will help them get promoted whilst we stay in this pathetic division.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:22 - Feb 11 with 4414 viewstextbackup

Town fans love to blame everything and everyone for our failures

If we were better, we’d have won regardless of any cheating.

We’ll be good again... one day
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:27 - Feb 11 with 4360 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Excuses.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:30 - Feb 11 with 4338 viewsLeoMuff

We have had some bad luck and poor decisions this season, but really we only have our selves to blame, failure to beat a few teams we have dominated at home, and conceding some soft soft goals have cost us dearly.

The only Muff in Town.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:38 - Feb 11 with 4248 viewsTractorWood

Lose the victim complex. It's escapism.
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I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:48 - Feb 11 with 4171 viewsEastTownBlue

It would have given us an advantage but there is no guarantee we would have beaten them if they were reduced to ten men.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 09:11 - Feb 12 with 3757 viewsStu_boy

Firstly we failed to hold onto a 2 0 lead at hilsboro because of our soft underbelly. We've seen it consistently when we come under pressure from other sides. We dont like it when we are put under pressure. We lack professionalism at times when it's needed and need strong leadership at these times instead if we go 2 0 up we all know once it goes 2 1 we'll cave in.

Secondly, playing against 10 is often tougher than playing against 11 as the other side will become more compact so there is no guarantee we would have won in any case. We should have capitalised when we were on top but i failed to see us with any real penetration of their penalty box, we prefer to pass than shoot
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 09:22 - Feb 12 with 3724 viewsHerbivore

They were a very dirty side and their gamesmanship and sh!thousery was amongst the best/worst I've seen at PR. We could and should have created more when on top in the second half but watching sides like Wednesday is pretty horrible. They were very much a League 1 side but a League 1 side on steroids, bit like Rotherham.

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 09:25 - Feb 12 with 3709 viewsMullet

The game up theirs was particularly galling, given we were the better side and it wasn't a difficult decision to make. The lack of action towards them and Burton for throwing stuff is also frustrating.

But we missed a penalty to go 1-0 up yesterday.

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 09:48 - Feb 12 with 3625 viewsGeoffSentence

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:22 - Feb 11 by textbackup

Town fans love to blame everything and everyone for our failures

If we were better, we’d have won regardless of any cheating.


Hower, as the OP argues, all other things being equal, two incorrect reffing decisions have cost us two points at least and potentially four points.

Don't boil a kettle on a boat.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 10:16 - Feb 12 with 3528 viewsMatt_Netherlands

Ref should’ve said to Bannan yesterday either ask your team mates and tell me who elbowed him, or I’ll send you off. Ludicrous that they got away with it.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 10:20 - Feb 12 with 3514 viewsCrockerITFC

In all fairness, we need to focus on ourselves, if we want to go up we shouldn't have to rely on referees or other external factors, we should be good enough to win games. We need to convert more chances we create and stop giving away easy goals. We've dropped so many points from injury time alone this season.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 11:10 - Feb 12 with 3444 viewsEly_Blue

We got the penalty, it’s our own fault for not scoring, sure it could/should have been a red but at least the incident was spotted and punished

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 11:22 - Feb 12 with 3422 viewsWickets

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 10:16 - Feb 12 by Matt_Netherlands

Ref should’ve said to Bannan yesterday either ask your team mates and tell me who elbowed him, or I’ll send you off. Ludicrous that they got away with it.


Pretty sure he just cant do that ! VAR would have highlighted it though .
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 11:32 - Feb 12 with 3405 viewsstrikalite

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 11:10 - Feb 12 by Ely_Blue

We got the penalty, it’s our own fault for not scoring, sure it could/should have been a red but at least the incident was spotted and punished


Yep, it was a big call from the lino really, many would have ducked that one especially in such an important game, score that and things could have been so different too, big moment in the game.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 13:00 - Feb 12 with 3299 viewsDeano69

Would appear the ref handed something thrown on to the pitch to the third official. It was from the north stand I believe.

Also, there seemed a be a little commotion during the minute silence, was that from the Wednesday supporters?

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 13:37 - Feb 12 with 3257 viewsTrequartista

Your assumption we would automatically beat 10 men is flawed

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 13:50 - Feb 12 with 3221 viewsunstableblue

… but this often edged into fouls, which the ref was being very lenient on

He didn’t know where to draw the line.

Also some mistakes - there was blatant tug on Davis when through when he was through which was inexplicable.

What really disappointed for me was Weds time wasting. Especially from the keeper. We had them under the cosh and they visibly cheated to slow us down. Think they only got one yellow.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 14:06 - Feb 12 with 3182 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 13:50 - Feb 12 by unstableblue

… but this often edged into fouls, which the ref was being very lenient on

He didn’t know where to draw the line.

Also some mistakes - there was blatant tug on Davis when through when he was through which was inexplicable.

What really disappointed for me was Weds time wasting. Especially from the keeper. We had them under the cosh and they visibly cheated to slow us down. Think they only got one yellow.


Ref was very weak when it came to their gamesmanship, barely gave them a warning and didn't add on enough time given how much they were wasting. Keeper was taking 20 seconds with the ball in hand and twice that for goal kicks and the ref didn't even give him a talking to. Prior to the penalty the ref was letting lots go both ways, felt like after that he carried on letting a lot go from them but not from us. Both the free kicks their goals came from were soft and not the sort of foul we were getting in our favour.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 14:07 - Feb 12 with 3178 views3_5_2

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 22:20 - Feb 11 by Powrigan

Good for them and it will help them get promoted whilst we stay in this pathetic division.
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The penalty was missed. That someone else’s fault ?

This season we have had shocking refs, poor linos, “injuries” / time wasting and shiphousery like I’ve never seen before, pens given against, not given to us, fog, etc etc

But Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday and soon to be Derby, will all had it and yet can win football matches where we draw ours.

If we actually did some of this stuff then maybe we will get out of this god awful division and move on.

When are we going to wake up to this

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 16:01 - Feb 12 with 3038 viewsBOBD

Stop embarrassing yourself.

It’s called game management.

All good teams do it.

It’s not Wednesdays fault that we can’t defend and they can.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 16:41 - Feb 12 with 2930 viewsreadtheleaguetable

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 16:01 - Feb 12 by BOBD

Stop embarrassing yourself.

It’s called game management.

All good teams do it.

It’s not Wednesdays fault that we can’t defend and they can.


Ahem. Both games ended 2-2

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 17:25 - Feb 12 with 2858 viewsBOBD

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 14:06 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

Ref was very weak when it came to their gamesmanship, barely gave them a warning and didn't add on enough time given how much they were wasting. Keeper was taking 20 seconds with the ball in hand and twice that for goal kicks and the ref didn't even give him a talking to. Prior to the penalty the ref was letting lots go both ways, felt like after that he carried on letting a lot go from them but not from us. Both the free kicks their goals came from were soft and not the sort of foul we were getting in our favour.
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Apart from the soft free kick Broadhead scored from.

There really is a genuine feel of being the victims around our supporter base which is just an absolute load of tosh.

Regardless of whether it was a pen or not - 9/10 you’re not getting that and yet we did. But still manage to talk ourselves into thinking we’ve been hard done by.
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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 17:30 - Feb 12 with 2831 viewsBOBD

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 16:41 - Feb 12 by readtheleaguetable

Ahem. Both games ended 2-2


I’m talking about the reasons for their defensive record against ours throughout the season.

We moan that we are too soft and easily give leads away.

Then you all see Wednesday come here, prepared to time waste, get in the referees ear, kick and foul when required and you moan about them “cheating”.

They are showing the levels of gamesmanship that good teams have. They were here to get the job done, not to make friends or look good.

They’re more experienced but we need a bit more of that. Not being so naive as to moan about a team doing it right.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 17:35 - Feb 12 with 2819 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 17:25 - Feb 12 by BOBD

Apart from the soft free kick Broadhead scored from.

There really is a genuine feel of being the victims around our supporter base which is just an absolute load of tosh.

Regardless of whether it was a pen or not - 9/10 you’re not getting that and yet we did. But still manage to talk ourselves into thinking we’ve been hard done by.


Think the load of tosh is coming from you here, fella.

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