| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship 11:58 - Apr 21 with 4167 views | wkj |
I think there is little doubt that the team we have now is stronger than the team we had in the Championship for the season we went down - possibly even stronger than a couple of seasons before we went down too.
If we were to go up with this team and made no signings (but also retained everyone from this season) - where do you think we would finish?
There is a lot of chatter on the pinkun' forum where people dismiss town with the logic that the gap in quality between Championship and L1 is large, but given how competitive it is and with 4 teams likely to finish close to/above 90 pts, I think the gap in L1's high flyers and the Championships mid table is closer than it has ever been.
Given how we play and the display we put in against Burnley in the cup, I actually have a feeling we would be able to finish mid table or better with this current team of players. How about you, where do you think we'd finish? [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 12:01]
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 15:30 - Apr 21 with 1110 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 12:25 - Apr 21 by nodge_blue |
Compare this current team to that which finished in 6th in the championship under McCarthy.
Who would you swap out from that team and put in this?
Id say, Bart, Mings. Berra, Murphy.
Chambers - at right back id take Clarke.
Smith - not a great CB. Wolf easily better.
Bru - no where near good enough.
Skuse - Id take Morsey over him for his all round game.
Anderson - lucky to be in that side. Burns better.
Sears - no one is picking him over Broadhead.
Bishop - well before his injuries he looked good. But right now Id take Chaplin.
So I see no reason why we won't be very competitive. Probably top 10. |
This is actually a decent way of looking at it.
Shows how good a job MM did with that squad that season as we didn’t really have many world beaters in that side. Only two of that squad have gone on to play st a higher level which says a lot.
Given their age and experience that was a squad entering some of their twilight years playing out of their skin, whereas you feel the current crop still has a fair amount of room to grow and improve. |  | | |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 15:30 - Apr 21 with 1111 views | Kropotkin123 |
I was thinking about this the other day as I saw Wigan were bottom, Rotherham were 18th and Sunderland were 9th.
I think we have strengthened our squad to a greater extent than Sunderland since they were promoted. I think we are currently capable of making a decent crack at the play-offs in the Championship.
The caveat would be that if Burns, Chaplin or Broadhead got injured, I think we would have significant downgrades in those areas, and struggle to make the top six. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 15:33]
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 16:49 - Apr 21 with 1032 views | Scuzzer |
Wouldn't surprise me if this current squad would be good enough to get in the playoffs. |  |
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 20:31 - Apr 21 with 920 views | Garv |
I think we've got slightly overexcited and maybe haven't paid enough respect to the league, but we wouldn't be relegation candidates, simply because of how much of a 'team' we are, not necessarily because of the quality in it - although there is that too.
I think we'd need to add a bit more physicality, we're still a relatively small side. |  |
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 21:30 - Apr 21 with 899 views | Churchman |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 20:31 - Apr 21 by Garv |
I think we've got slightly overexcited and maybe haven't paid enough respect to the league, but we wouldn't be relegation candidates, simply because of how much of a 'team' we are, not necessarily because of the quality in it - although there is that too.
I think we'd need to add a bit more physicality, we're still a relatively small side. |
I’ve seen plenty of Championship games. We’ve also played three matches against Burnley and Rotherham. Sunderland have had a good season after finishing in the play offs last year and there’s nothing scary about them. Nothing outstanding about the rest either from what I’ve seen.
If we can get out of this quagmire league I genuinely think we’d do well in the Championship. |  | | |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 21:40 - Apr 21 with 889 views | Sharkey |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 15:30 - Apr 21 by Matt_Netherlands |
This is actually a decent way of looking at it.
Shows how good a job MM did with that squad that season as we didn’t really have many world beaters in that side. Only two of that squad have gone on to play st a higher level which says a lot.
Given their age and experience that was a squad entering some of their twilight years playing out of their skin, whereas you feel the current crop still has a fair amount of room to grow and improve. |
Twilight years? Most of the main players were about 26-28, no? I think you're forgetting how long ago it was. |  | | |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 21:43 - Apr 21 with 887 views | Coastalblue |
Is there any other answer than 15th? |  |
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 22:55 - Apr 21 with 834 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Aside from the fact the individual players probably are better, we have a team now. It was not a team when we got relegated. It was a collection of players. A team is better than simply the sum of its parts. |  |
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 22:58 - Apr 21 with 828 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 16:49 - Apr 21 by Scuzzer |
Wouldn't surprise me if this current squad would be good enough to get in the playoffs. |
This current team is capable of having Sunderland's current season in the next one if we get promoted.
Midtable with a chance of gatecrashing top 6. |  | | |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 23:12 - Apr 21 with 823 views | GeoffSentence |
Definitely competing for play-offs, possibly pushing for autos.
Oh, and we'd wipe the floor with the budgies.. [Post edited 21 Apr 2023 23:13]
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 09:23 - Apr 22 with 729 views | Darth_Koont |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 12:25 - Apr 21 by nodge_blue |
Compare this current team to that which finished in 6th in the championship under McCarthy.
Who would you swap out from that team and put in this?
Id say, Bart, Mings. Berra, Murphy.
Chambers - at right back id take Clarke.
Smith - not a great CB. Wolf easily better.
Bru - no where near good enough.
Skuse - Id take Morsey over him for his all round game.
Anderson - lucky to be in that side. Burns better.
Sears - no one is picking him over Broadhead.
Bishop - well before his injuries he looked good. But right now Id take Chaplin.
So I see no reason why we won't be very competitive. Probably top 10. |
Although that team could stop the opposition too, which will be increasingly important as we step up.
In that respect, players like Burns, Clarke, Davis and Woolfenden will be tested much more for their pure defensive abilities. So while you wouldn’t put players like Donacien or Burgess as our most important defenders in League One where we have licence to attack almost at will, their qualities or similar will be needed when an away draw starts becoming a good result again.
Hopefully, the majority of our players will step up but I think there might need to be a reassessment of certain individuals or how we need to play to get the best results. We might need to start covering weaknesses and being more defensively solid rather than relying on our more obvious attacking strengths which seem to be more than enough for League One. |  |
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 10:06 - Apr 22 with 710 views | nodge_blue |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 09:23 - Apr 22 by Darth_Koont |
Although that team could stop the opposition too, which will be increasingly important as we step up.
In that respect, players like Burns, Clarke, Davis and Woolfenden will be tested much more for their pure defensive abilities. So while you wouldn’t put players like Donacien or Burgess as our most important defenders in League One where we have licence to attack almost at will, their qualities or similar will be needed when an away draw starts becoming a good result again.
Hopefully, the majority of our players will step up but I think there might need to be a reassessment of certain individuals or how we need to play to get the best results. We might need to start covering weaknesses and being more defensively solid rather than relying on our more obvious attacking strengths which seem to be more than enough for League One. |
I watched a League 1 (Jack ward) podcast the other day where he looked at our game v port vale.
Positionally, the (average) most advanced Ipswich player during the whole game was....Davis!
Our left back was further forward than any other town player during the course of the game. That's mind blowing to me.
But it backs up your point, would be be able to do that in the championship? I doubt it... |  |
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| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 12:00 - Apr 22 with 651 views | skinnybob72 |
I would sum up our prospects with a single word - Sunderland.
They weren't anything special last season, a massive number of late goals, including against us, kept them in the hunt and the went up via the POs.
I don't know if they have massively strengthened since going up but the fact that they are in the hunt or the POs tells me that there is no reason we can't have similar expectations - should we actually go up! |  | | |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 13:06 - Apr 22 with 600 views | surreyblue |
I'm probably not quite as optimistic as many - I think our first XI is probably good enough to be pushing for the playoffs, I'm not sure the wider squad (particularly when taking into account current injury status) would do much better than mid-lower mid table. If we go up, it will be important to build up a squad of 18-20 players that are deemed practically interchangeable, rather than the 13/14 that are currently in that position. | | | |
| Hypothetical: The current squad in the Championship on 14:43 - Apr 22 with 548 views | GlasgowBlue |
We would need a keeper who is better with his feet in the Championship imo. Certainly another central defender. Perhaps 2. An a striker with a proven goal scoring record in the Championship. |  |
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