| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards 17:59 - Jul 12 with 15988 views | Swansea_Blue |
His wife dobbed him in (or rather announced on his behalf) [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 18:16]
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:30 - Jul 12 with 1925 views | wkj |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:12 - Jul 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Oh, so let's excuse all his sleaze and moral wrongdoings because he didn't commit a crime?
The mother was desperate to get him stop paying her son/daughter for lewd photos. Doesn't matter if it's a crime or not what he did.
The Sun has published that.......BBC has been similar things throughout the years re different cases. A media war. It will never change.
Edwards is also accused of breaking rules in 2021. Lockdown, we were told to stay home. You and others have been losing sh1t over any Tory member breaking the rules. If it's proven that Edwards broke the rules are you going to vilify him? No, you won't because he is BBC, eh?
I also can't remember you criticising Edwards or BBC for their harassment and attacks on Tate brothers. We don't know if they did what they are accused of. BBC though have been attacking them despite no evidence, no victims, no crime. They were just happy dragging Andrew Tate's name through the mud. And you keep waffling about The Sun and their lack of evidence.
BBC or The Sun......it's staggering how powerful the media are and how easy for them is to brainwash people. Left wing media or right wing media.....whichever.
If Boris Johnson or any Tory had been doing what Edwards is accused of would you be saying: 'Oh it's not a crime so it doesn't matter'? [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 23:26]
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No one is claiming he's innocent - just that the evidence or confession needs to come before guilt can can be assumed. If every member of this board collectively decided to point their finger at you for wrong doing without any actual evidence, then you would look guilty to the eyes of the passer by without necessarily being guilty.
If Edwards is culpable for anything morally reprehensible then throw the book at him 100%, but right now all there is said to be is a finger pointing and an accusation. This is called circumstantial evidence at best, and would not hold up in court.
One of the fundamental rights we have is being innocent until proven guilty, but the burden of proof has to be on the accuser.
FWIW I am not convinced of Edwards innocence or guilt, but I am convinced that there is nothing in the public domain at the moment that proves his guilt. If it exists, I hope it comes soon. If it doesn't? Then he's not been proven guilty. |  |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:39 - Jul 12 with 1887 views | Ryorry |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:12 - Jul 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Oh, so let's excuse all his sleaze and moral wrongdoings because he didn't commit a crime?
The mother was desperate to get him stop paying her son/daughter for lewd photos. Doesn't matter if it's a crime or not what he did.
The Sun has published that.......BBC has been similar things throughout the years re different cases. A media war. It will never change.
Edwards is also accused of breaking rules in 2021. Lockdown, we were told to stay home. You and others have been losing sh1t over any Tory member breaking the rules. If it's proven that Edwards broke the rules are you going to vilify him? No, you won't because he is BBC, eh?
I also can't remember you criticising Edwards or BBC for their harassment and attacks on Tate brothers. We don't know if they did what they are accused of. BBC though have been attacking them despite no evidence, no victims, no crime. They were just happy dragging Andrew Tate's name through the mud. And you keep waffling about The Sun and their lack of evidence.
BBC or The Sun......it's staggering how powerful the media are and how easy for them is to brainwash people. Left wing media or right wing media.....whichever.
If Boris Johnson or any Tory had been doing what Edwards is accused of would you be saying: 'Oh it's not a crime so it doesn't matter'? [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 23:26]
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You cannot be serious -
"I also can't remember you criticising Edwards or BBC for their harassment and attacks on Tate brothers. We don't know if they did what they are accused of. BBC though have been attacking them despite no evidence, no victims, no crime."
Well apart from numerous victim statements, plus tweets etc. authored by the Tates themselves ... |  |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:08 - Jul 13 with 1855 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:39 - Jul 12 by Ryorry |
You cannot be serious -
"I also can't remember you criticising Edwards or BBC for their harassment and attacks on Tate brothers. We don't know if they did what they are accused of. BBC though have been attacking them despite no evidence, no victims, no crime."
Well apart from numerous victim statements, plus tweets etc. authored by the Tates themselves ... |
There was no evidence. Just BBC lies. Stop making things up and switch off BBC. |  | | |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:32 - Jul 13 with 1826 views | WicklowBlue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:08 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
There was no evidence. Just BBC lies. Stop making things up and switch off BBC. |
Err Mach the Tates was an international news story, similar to the BBC Presenter one.
You can blame the BBC for what many other media outlets were reporting:
https://apnews.com/article/andrew-tate-romania-court-rape-trafficking-bf98ebb2a0
Equally you could just change the channel to Sky News, International news reporting the same story. |  | | |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:51 - Jul 13 with 1825 views | XYZ |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 22:51 - Jul 12 by factual_blue |
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This David Baddiel?
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 07:50 - Jul 13 with 1692 views | Herbivore |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:12 - Jul 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Oh, so let's excuse all his sleaze and moral wrongdoings because he didn't commit a crime?
The mother was desperate to get him stop paying her son/daughter for lewd photos. Doesn't matter if it's a crime or not what he did.
The Sun has published that.......BBC has been similar things throughout the years re different cases. A media war. It will never change.
Edwards is also accused of breaking rules in 2021. Lockdown, we were told to stay home. You and others have been losing sh1t over any Tory member breaking the rules. If it's proven that Edwards broke the rules are you going to vilify him? No, you won't because he is BBC, eh?
I also can't remember you criticising Edwards or BBC for their harassment and attacks on Tate brothers. We don't know if they did what they are accused of. BBC though have been attacking them despite no evidence, no victims, no crime. They were just happy dragging Andrew Tate's name through the mud. And you keep waffling about The Sun and their lack of evidence.
BBC or The Sun......it's staggering how powerful the media are and how easy for them is to brainwash people. Left wing media or right wing media.....whichever.
If Boris Johnson or any Tory had been doing what Edwards is accused of would you be saying: 'Oh it's not a crime so it doesn't matter'? [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 23:26]
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The absolute state of this. [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 8:01]
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 07:52 - Jul 13 with 1687 views | Herbivore |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:08 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
There was no evidence. Just BBC lies. Stop making things up and switch off BBC. |
If there was no evidence, why were they arrested and detained? You are genuinely unhinged if you think the Tate brothers are in the sh!t because of the BBC. I've heard some nonsense in my time but that is next level. | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 07:57 - Jul 13 with 1680 views | Whos_blue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 23:12 - Jul 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Oh, so let's excuse all his sleaze and moral wrongdoings because he didn't commit a crime?
The mother was desperate to get him stop paying her son/daughter for lewd photos. Doesn't matter if it's a crime or not what he did.
The Sun has published that.......BBC has been similar things throughout the years re different cases. A media war. It will never change.
Edwards is also accused of breaking rules in 2021. Lockdown, we were told to stay home. You and others have been losing sh1t over any Tory member breaking the rules. If it's proven that Edwards broke the rules are you going to vilify him? No, you won't because he is BBC, eh?
I also can't remember you criticising Edwards or BBC for their harassment and attacks on Tate brothers. We don't know if they did what they are accused of. BBC though have been attacking them despite no evidence, no victims, no crime. They were just happy dragging Andrew Tate's name through the mud. And you keep waffling about The Sun and their lack of evidence.
BBC or The Sun......it's staggering how powerful the media are and how easy for them is to brainwash people. Left wing media or right wing media.....whichever.
If Boris Johnson or any Tory had been doing what Edwards is accused of would you be saying: 'Oh it's not a crime so it doesn't matter'? [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 23:26]
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The state of this.
Jeez Mach.
Using the Tate brothers as some kind of moral defence?
Seriously? |  |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:02 - Jul 13 with 1658 views | Herbivore |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 07:57 - Jul 13 by Whos_blue |
The state of this.
Jeez Mach.
Using the Tate brothers as some kind of moral defence?
Seriously? |
The Tate brothers have done nothing wrong though, it's just the BBC making up the news that they were arrested and detained on charges of human trafficking, apparently. | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:19 - Jul 13 with 1629 views | bluelagos |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 07:57 - Jul 13 by Whos_blue |
The state of this.
Jeez Mach.
Using the Tate brothers as some kind of moral defence?
Seriously? |
Mach has certainly nailed his colours to the mast. Accusing the BBC of going after the Tate brothers is quite the eye opener with regards to where Mach is coming from. |  |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:21 - Jul 13 with 1624 views | Herbivore |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:19 - Jul 13 by bluelagos |
Mach has certainly nailed his colours to the mast. Accusing the BBC of going after the Tate brothers is quite the eye opener with regards to where Mach is coming from. |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:32 - Jul 13 with 1594 views | Swansea_Blue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:08 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
There was no evidence. Just BBC lies. Stop making things up and switch off BBC. |
Blimey. The Tate brothers plus two others have been charged with human trafficking and (between them) raped and violent assault. Actually arrested and charged, with a judge ruling there’s sufficient evidence to proceed to trial. | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:34 - Jul 13 with 1592 views | Swansea_Blue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:19 - Jul 13 by bluelagos |
Mach has certainly nailed his colours to the mast. Accusing the BBC of going after the Tate brothers is quite the eye opener with regards to where Mach is coming from. |
Worryingly so. His posts have been getting increasingly irrational lately (or maybe I’ve only just noticed). | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:07 - Jul 13 with 1552 views | Herbivore |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:34 - Jul 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Worryingly so. His posts have been getting increasingly irrational lately (or maybe I’ve only just noticed). |
He's always been, shall we say, volatile but in the past it was mainly confined to losing his sh!t at MM, Chambo, and Skuse. Recently he's branched out and is now angry at anything other than out there on the fringes alt right tosh it seems. The Guardian and BBC seem to be his favourite targets at the minute. | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:17 - Jul 13 with 1526 views | itfcjoe |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:21 - Jul 13 by Herbivore |
#smalldickenergy |
Yeh but he drives a Bugatti so he must be idolised...!! |  |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:20 - Jul 13 with 1517 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 00:08 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
There was no evidence. Just BBC lies. Stop making things up and switch off BBC. |
Tell me, what do you think of Viktor Orbán? |  |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:45 - Jul 13 with 1487 views | Ryorry |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 08:19 - Jul 13 by bluelagos |
Mach has certainly nailed his colours to the mast. Accusing the BBC of going after the Tate brothers is quite the eye opener with regards to where Mach is coming from. |
I don’t know how old Mach is, but these posts of his here did bring to mind some calls on radio phone-ins from a couple of fathers worried about their sons having fallen into A. Tate’s appalling online swamp, and swallowed his toxic sh1t hook, line and sinker. | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:50 - Jul 13 with 1467 views | itfcjoe |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:45 - Jul 13 by Ryorry |
I don’t know how old Mach is, but these posts of his here did bring to mind some calls on radio phone-ins from a couple of fathers worried about their sons having fallen into A. Tate’s appalling online swamp, and swallowed his toxic sh1t hook, line and sinker. |
I read this article yesterday which i thought was good about Tate - from Sam Delaney in the Reset:
Where Have All The Heroes Gone?
With no-none left to look up to, idiot billionaires have moved in
It’s important to have heroes when you’re growing up.
When I was a kid I liked Madness frontman Suggs, Grange Hill’s Top Boy Tucker Jenkins and West Ham’s strikers Tony Cottee and Frank McAvennie. They were all young, successful, talented and free-thinking.
As a teenager I liked Shaun Ryder from the Happy Mondays, Chuck D from Public Enemy, Prince, Eddie Murphy and Vic n Bob.
I felt like there was a mild cockiness to them, like urchins made good by virtue of their flair and swagger. That was the sort of thing that appealed to me then - and still does now.
These men were positive role models: talented, fearless, authentic and cheeky. A great bunch of lads.
You need great men to look up to while you’re building a personality for yourself. You spot things you like about blokes you admire and try to piece them all together, mix them up with your own experiences, and mould it all into an identity of your own.
During this process, you have to be careful not to look up to w**kers. These days, that’s more difficult than ever because - in the public eye at least - the w88ker to good bloke ratio seems to have fallen badly out of sync.
These might just be the embarrassing splutterings of a middle aged b@stard, of course, but I do worry that there are more w**kers presenting themselves as role models these days.
The world has gone back to being pretty elitist: there are fewer working class lads able to make it to the top of their game. Opportunities are harder to come by in the creative fields than they once were. Stats show that, in the UK, the entertainment and media industries are increasingly dominated by the privileged few.
I’m not saying that posh people can’t make good role models. Stephen Fry’s alright, for example. But it means that the talent pool is far less colourful than it used to be. And it is disproportionately filled with the arrogant, the entitled, the unimaginative and the boring.
I’ve got teacher mates who say that Andrew Tate is a serious problem for them . The lads they teach genuinely love him, despite all of his toxic idiocy and despicable antics. They think he’s great because he drives a Bugatti. My mate told his pupils that Tate was an ar5ehole and they replied ‘But sir, we’ve seen the old banger you drive to work in. Why would we believe your word over his?’
That’s the problem. Late stage capitalism, an elitist society, a homogenised culture and rampant consumerism has created a generation who are impressed by little more than displays of vast wealth and a boneheaded ‘f**k you’ attitude.
Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are planning to actually fight each other in a cage in Las Vegas to settle their business disputes. It’s the sort of thing The Simpsons would have made a joke about thirty years ago but it’s actually happening: two billionaires who made money so quickly and easily that they never really needed to emotionally mature, fighting each other because they are permanently frozen in a state of adolescence.
I think I’ve raised my son well enough to understand that Tate is a w**ker and the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg are, at best, d1ckheads. But even if he knows what men not to like, he still needs other men who he can actively look up to.
He did have Declan Rice, who was brilliant, funny, kind, and, crucially, played for West Ham. But now he’s signing for Arsenal and the one decent role model my son had is tainted forever.
What young lads need is role models who can be brave, cool, funny, tough and all the other things our basest instincts aspire to be while also managing to be sensitive, kind, respectful and intelligent.
What they need is more Tucker Jenkins and less Andrew Tate [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 9:51]
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 10:01 - Jul 13 with 1428 views | Ryorry |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:50 - Jul 13 by itfcjoe |
I read this article yesterday which i thought was good about Tate - from Sam Delaney in the Reset:
Where Have All The Heroes Gone?
With no-none left to look up to, idiot billionaires have moved in
It’s important to have heroes when you’re growing up.
When I was a kid I liked Madness frontman Suggs, Grange Hill’s Top Boy Tucker Jenkins and West Ham’s strikers Tony Cottee and Frank McAvennie. They were all young, successful, talented and free-thinking.
As a teenager I liked Shaun Ryder from the Happy Mondays, Chuck D from Public Enemy, Prince, Eddie Murphy and Vic n Bob.
I felt like there was a mild cockiness to them, like urchins made good by virtue of their flair and swagger. That was the sort of thing that appealed to me then - and still does now.
These men were positive role models: talented, fearless, authentic and cheeky. A great bunch of lads.
You need great men to look up to while you’re building a personality for yourself. You spot things you like about blokes you admire and try to piece them all together, mix them up with your own experiences, and mould it all into an identity of your own.
During this process, you have to be careful not to look up to w**kers. These days, that’s more difficult than ever because - in the public eye at least - the w88ker to good bloke ratio seems to have fallen badly out of sync.
These might just be the embarrassing splutterings of a middle aged b@stard, of course, but I do worry that there are more w**kers presenting themselves as role models these days.
The world has gone back to being pretty elitist: there are fewer working class lads able to make it to the top of their game. Opportunities are harder to come by in the creative fields than they once were. Stats show that, in the UK, the entertainment and media industries are increasingly dominated by the privileged few.
I’m not saying that posh people can’t make good role models. Stephen Fry’s alright, for example. But it means that the talent pool is far less colourful than it used to be. And it is disproportionately filled with the arrogant, the entitled, the unimaginative and the boring.
I’ve got teacher mates who say that Andrew Tate is a serious problem for them . The lads they teach genuinely love him, despite all of his toxic idiocy and despicable antics. They think he’s great because he drives a Bugatti. My mate told his pupils that Tate was an ar5ehole and they replied ‘But sir, we’ve seen the old banger you drive to work in. Why would we believe your word over his?’
That’s the problem. Late stage capitalism, an elitist society, a homogenised culture and rampant consumerism has created a generation who are impressed by little more than displays of vast wealth and a boneheaded ‘f**k you’ attitude.
Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are planning to actually fight each other in a cage in Las Vegas to settle their business disputes. It’s the sort of thing The Simpsons would have made a joke about thirty years ago but it’s actually happening: two billionaires who made money so quickly and easily that they never really needed to emotionally mature, fighting each other because they are permanently frozen in a state of adolescence.
I think I’ve raised my son well enough to understand that Tate is a w**ker and the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg are, at best, d1ckheads. But even if he knows what men not to like, he still needs other men who he can actively look up to.
He did have Declan Rice, who was brilliant, funny, kind, and, crucially, played for West Ham. But now he’s signing for Arsenal and the one decent role model my son had is tainted forever.
What young lads need is role models who can be brave, cool, funny, tough and all the other things our basest instincts aspire to be while also managing to be sensitive, kind, respectful and intelligent.
What they need is more Tucker Jenkins and less Andrew Tate [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 9:51]
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 10:38 - Jul 13 with 1371 views | Reus30 |
Some of the idiotic things in this thread just goes to show the state of society.
I mean the people in here comparing the Tate's criminal proceedings to this campaign against Huw is baffling. The amount of actual evidence is damning but the BBC aren't reporting them as criminals yet because they haven't been found to be.
Huw has ousted by the comments of one person who sold a story to a newspaper with a history of being c****. Even the 'victim' has come out and denied it. And alongside the PS drama, there is blatant homophobia about it all.
It's his private life, I don't care who and what he likes to do in his spare time.
Also, the inappropriate messages nonsense needs to go away. Unless you are demanding someone shows gentials, it's a non-issue and people need to stop bleating about it. |  | | |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:23 - Jul 13 with 1340 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 09:07 - Jul 13 by Herbivore |
He's always been, shall we say, volatile but in the past it was mainly confined to losing his sh!t at MM, Chambo, and Skuse. Recently he's branched out and is now angry at anything other than out there on the fringes alt right tosh it seems. The Guardian and BBC seem to be his favourite targets at the minute. |
Hear hear !!!
Lets remind all that you are horrible, vile creature who had been banned from here for insulting other posters. You had been calling others racists. Have you shown some manners and apologised to the TWTD admins for your behaviour?
Not only were you banned from here you had also been causing on the other Town forum in the past. TB forum, remember?
Anywhere you are, you are causing problems. Internet forums aren't the place for you as you struggle to accept different opinions and turn to insulting people.
To think you cry about Boris Johnson and the government. Start addressing your anger issues and learn some manners before you judge others.
Have you apologised to the TWTD admins? [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 11:27]
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:26 - Jul 13 with 1323 views | wkj |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:23 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Hear hear !!!
Lets remind all that you are horrible, vile creature who had been banned from here for insulting other posters. You had been calling others racists. Have you shown some manners and apologised to the TWTD admins for your behaviour?
Not only were you banned from here you had also been causing on the other Town forum in the past. TB forum, remember?
Anywhere you are, you are causing problems. Internet forums aren't the place for you as you struggle to accept different opinions and turn to insulting people.
To think you cry about Boris Johnson and the government. Start addressing your anger issues and learn some manners before you judge others.
Have you apologised to the TWTD admins? [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 11:27]
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He's apologised to me, which is a step above admin | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:28 - Jul 13 with 1316 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:26 - Jul 13 by wkj |
He's apologised to me, which is a step above admin |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:33 - Jul 13 with 1293 views | Herbivore |
| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:23 - Jul 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Hear hear !!!
Lets remind all that you are horrible, vile creature who had been banned from here for insulting other posters. You had been calling others racists. Have you shown some manners and apologised to the TWTD admins for your behaviour?
Not only were you banned from here you had also been causing on the other Town forum in the past. TB forum, remember?
Anywhere you are, you are causing problems. Internet forums aren't the place for you as you struggle to accept different opinions and turn to insulting people.
To think you cry about Boris Johnson and the government. Start addressing your anger issues and learn some manners before you judge others.
Have you apologised to the TWTD admins? [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 11:27]
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I'm not banned from the other Town forum, I'll pop on the here and send you a PM if you like. I stopped posting on there years ago though as TWTD is superior. And yes, I did apologise to Phil (and Bloots) as it goes.
So can you now clarify whether you think the Tate brothers were arrested and detained by police because the police felt they had a case against them or because of some BBC led conspiracy? Very curious as to whether you are genuinely unhinged or just very shouty and don't really think things through. | |
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| R4 just announced it’s Huw Edwards on 11:34 - Jul 13 with 1286 views | giant_stow |
We've never had a ding dong, although I suspect you're probably not keen on any Norwich fan - fair enough - so please take the following in the spirit it's meant. Andrew Tate is a terrible influence on young male minds, teaching them all the wrong lessons in life: disrespect women, respect materialism and might is right. If everyone behaved like him, society would fall apart and we'd all be back fighting over the odd stray turnip. |  |
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