| Dino Mick on McKenna 13:52 - Oct 5 with 17230 views | LaManga |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 08:49 - Oct 6 with 1246 views | Vic |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 19:50 - Oct 5 by Kropotkin123 |
Exactly. The original poster calls Mick "Dino" and no one bats an eyelid. But Frimmers correctly identifies Mick say "it" and gets #### for it from the same people. Tedious and obsessive. |
Except he doesn’t correctly identify an “it”! That’s the point. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 8:50]
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:05 - Oct 6 with 1199 views | itfcjoe |
Nice words from a good man and good manager, sure he is very pleased to see how we are doing after all his good work was chucked away by Hurst and then Lambert in the year or two that followed after he left us some good foundations to build on.
And I think he says we have a decent budget, which we do especially compared to when Mick was here - we haven't released our wage bill for last season yet, but the won in 21/22 (i.e. the Cook/McKenna season) was higher than the one we had when we finished 6th in the Championship in 2014/15, before you look at what we spent on transfer and loan fees
You'd imagine it went up again last year, probably to it's highest ever level, and will have gone up again this year. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:05 - Oct 6 with 1198 views | Leaky |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:28 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Evans wouldn't have picked KM firstly though.
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With Evan's in charge I don't think KM would come here |  | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:15 - Oct 6 with 1181 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 08:49 - Oct 6 by Vic |
Except he doesn’t correctly identify an “it”! That’s the point. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 8:50]
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Of course he says "it". I don't know what's wrong with people.
Fair enough if you can't hear it, but bear in mind what he says next: "Nevertheless, he's got to do the coaching." He's saying 'Yes, they've got a good budget (in the Championship as well) but you still have to coach the players, it's not all about money.'
Why are people just judging the word and not the context around it? If he was saying "They got into the Championship" then "Nevertheless, he's got to do the coaching" wouldn't make sense! |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:17 - Oct 6 with 1177 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:15 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Of course he says "it". I don't know what's wrong with people.
Fair enough if you can't hear it, but bear in mind what he says next: "Nevertheless, he's got to do the coaching." He's saying 'Yes, they've got a good budget (in the Championship as well) but you still have to coach the players, it's not all about money.'
Why are people just judging the word and not the context around it? If he was saying "They got into the Championship" then "Nevertheless, he's got to do the coaching" wouldn't make sense! |
It would, given that immediately preceding saying he'd got us into the Championship he mentioned our budget in League 1. You can't shout "context!" then trim out an important bit of context that undermines your argument. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:20 - Oct 6 with 1163 views | Leaky |
Mick made a comment on the podcast, where he mentions going to a club. is told the club is like a fish it rots from the head down. Didn't mention the club by name. Any guesses, don't think he was referring to his time here as he was here for about 5 years. | | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:32 - Oct 6 with 1123 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:17 - Oct 6 by Herbivore |
It would, given that immediately preceding saying he'd got us into the Championship he mentioned our budget in League 1. You can't shout "context!" then trim out an important bit of context that undermines your argument. |
What?! That bit doesn't remotely undermine my argument. The important word to understanding what he's saying is "nevertheless". Why would he use that word unless he's inferring the budget has helped in both League 1 and the Champ?
"They had a really good budget in the first division, they've got it in the Championship, but nevertheless he's doing the coaching..."
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"They had a really good budget in the first division, they've got in the Championship, but nevertheless he's doing the coaching."
Which of those makes more sense? | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:34 - Oct 6 with 1116 views | ibbleobble |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 08:25 - Oct 6 by ITFCSG |
Totally agree but to be fair Mick should have gone after the 14/15 season when we failed to make the play-off final. The relationship between the fans and him went steadily downhill after that. Although I don't know who would have stepped in. We'd probably get relegated quicker though. Dino Mick old school hoofball was ugly to watch but used to keep us afloat in the Championship; while Lambert and Cook were utterly clueless both in the Champ and L1.
Funny how people go bang about Mick compared to Lambert, who did a far worse job. Mick didn't do himself any favours trading barbs with fans though, but for all the beers and PR Lambert did he was IMO the worst of the lot sans Hurst. I sometimes really wonder if he really was Agent Lambert sent by the sc*m to take us down. |
I’ve always wanted to know how Mick thought he did here. When he arrived he stated in an early press conference that the sim and ambition was to get to the PL despite being sat where we were at the time. He obviously had eyes on returning too but that didn’t happen and despite a bright season, we became very mediocre, which is at odds with his own personal ambitions.
Would he call it a success here? Maybe his point of view changed over the years but I’d be fascinated to read a memoir of how it changed for him because it was the beginning of the end for him as a manager despite some bright moments with ROI and Cardiff. | | | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:39 - Oct 6 with 1106 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:32 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
What?! That bit doesn't remotely undermine my argument. The important word to understanding what he's saying is "nevertheless". Why would he use that word unless he's inferring the budget has helped in both League 1 and the Champ?
"They had a really good budget in the first division, they've got it in the Championship, but nevertheless he's doing the coaching..."
or
"They had a really good budget in the first division, they've got in the Championship, but nevertheless he's doing the coaching."
Which of those makes more sense? |
They both make sense. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:47 - Oct 6 with 1083 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:34 - Oct 6 by ibbleobble |
I’ve always wanted to know how Mick thought he did here. When he arrived he stated in an early press conference that the sim and ambition was to get to the PL despite being sat where we were at the time. He obviously had eyes on returning too but that didn’t happen and despite a bright season, we became very mediocre, which is at odds with his own personal ambitions.
Would he call it a success here? Maybe his point of view changed over the years but I’d be fascinated to read a memoir of how it changed for him because it was the beginning of the end for him as a manager despite some bright moments with ROI and Cardiff. |
I think he'd feel disappointed with how it ended but proud of overachieving in his first few years here. I don't think he would have felt good about it turning sour here but he's a proud man with strong principles who couldn't just quietly accept the sh!te support and abuse from a section of our fanbase. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:06 - Oct 6 with 1048 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 09:39 - Oct 6 by Herbivore |
They both make sense. |
I said which makes MORE sense.
nevertheless
/ˌnɛvəðəˈlɛs/
adverb
in spite of that; notwithstanding; all the same.
Why would you say "they've got in the Championship, but in spite of that he's doing the coaching"?!?!
They've got IT in the Championship, but in spite of that he's doing the coaching, makes WAY more sense - despite the money aspect, you've still got to do the coaching. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:32 - Oct 6 with 1008 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:06 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I said which makes MORE sense.
nevertheless
/ˌnɛvəðəˈlɛs/
adverb
in spite of that; notwithstanding; all the same.
Why would you say "they've got in the Championship, but in spite of that he's doing the coaching"?!?!
They've got IT in the Championship, but in spite of that he's doing the coaching, makes WAY more sense - despite the money aspect, you've still got to do the coaching. |
Again, you're ignoring the bit about us having a good budget in League 1, which explains the nevertheless. I'm not sure what you're struggling with here. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:35 - Oct 6 with 998 views | Leaky |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:06 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I said which makes MORE sense.
nevertheless
/ˌnɛvəðəˈlɛs/
adverb
in spite of that; notwithstanding; all the same.
Why would you say "they've got in the Championship, but in spite of that he's doing the coaching"?!?!
They've got IT in the Championship, but in spite of that he's doing the coaching, makes WAY more sense - despite the money aspect, you've still got to do the coaching. |
Perhaps you are misunderstanding Micks Yorkshire dialect, they quite often put a "t" in front of some words. Perhaps I watch too much Emmerdale. | | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:43 - Oct 6 with 974 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:32 - Oct 6 by Herbivore |
Again, you're ignoring the bit about us having a good budget in League 1, which explains the nevertheless. I'm not sure what you're struggling with here. |
I've not ignored it, I dealt with it above.
If he'd just said "They had a really good budget in the first division but nevertheless he's doing the coaching" then you'd have a point. You're suggesting he's inserted "they've got in the Championship" in between those clauses, which completely throws the sentence out of whack. It's an entirely different point, out of context with the rest of the sentence.
It's ok to be wrong, and you and Mick have both made an error here. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:44 - Oct 6 with 969 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:35 - Oct 6 by Leaky |
Perhaps you are misunderstanding Micks Yorkshire dialect, they quite often put a "t" in front of some words. Perhaps I watch too much Emmerdale. |
It's got nothing to do with his dialect, it's what makes most sense to the full sentence. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:55 - Oct 6 with 940 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:43 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I've not ignored it, I dealt with it above.
If he'd just said "They had a really good budget in the first division but nevertheless he's doing the coaching" then you'd have a point. You're suggesting he's inserted "they've got in the Championship" in between those clauses, which completely throws the sentence out of whack. It's an entirely different point, out of context with the rest of the sentence.
It's ok to be wrong, and you and Mick have both made an error here. |
I give up. It's pointless. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 10:56]
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:56 - Oct 6 with 937 views | Ryorry |
Bet he’s roaring with laughter if he’s reading this thread. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:58 - Oct 6 with 927 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:55 - Oct 6 by Herbivore |
I give up. It's pointless. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 10:56]
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LOL, you've got no answer have you? So resort to this.
There's no shame in being wrong occasionally. The embarrassing thing is not just holding your hands up. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:01 - Oct 6 with 922 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:58 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
LOL, you've got no answer have you? So resort to this.
There's no shame in being wrong occasionally. The embarrassing thing is not just holding your hands up. |
I've answered you numerous times, there is no point in repeating myself. Go on believing you've won the internet again, mate, if it makes you happy. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:02 - Oct 6 with 918 views | Ryorry |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 10:35 - Oct 6 by Leaky |
Perhaps you are misunderstanding Micks Yorkshire dialect, they quite often put a "t" in front of some words. Perhaps I watch too much Emmerdale. |
I’ve lived in Yorkshire for 43+ years, understand his accent, and heard the ‘it’. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:20 - Oct 6 with 874 views | wkj |
| Mick McCarthy on McKenna on 07:41 - Oct 6 by WeWereZombies |
Whilst I agree on your general point I make you wrong on salsa (not that I am any good at it but it is more fun by virtue of having the higher bar for competence.) Anyway, do you think Lincoln are going to stay in the Premier League this season ? [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 19:31]
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Not a chance, Sam Dyche has his hands way too full. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:26 - Oct 6 with 852 views | Swansea_Blue |
Peak TWTD |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:38 - Oct 6 with 825 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:41 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Nah defo his Irish/northern/welsh/spanish mumble causing the subtitle issue, defo as an 'it' in there. they've got IT in the championship. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 11:45]
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Mick has an Irish accent? |  | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:40 - Oct 6 with 821 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:38 - Oct 6 by Eireannach_gorm |
Mick has an Irish accent? |
I ain't got a clue tbh. I thought it was northern. Then I thought I'd got that wrong so edited to Irish.
Fk it. Welsh. |  |
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| Mick McCarthy on McKenna on 11:41 - Oct 6 with 820 views | WeWereZombies |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 11:26 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue |
Peak TWTD |
And slightly reminiscent of a Stephen King novel... [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 19:29]
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