| Dino Mick on McKenna 13:52 - Oct 5 with 17219 views | LaManga |
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| Good stuff Mick - the budget is important, but its the managing and coaching (n/t) on 14:53 - Oct 5 with 2571 views | unstableblue |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:56 - Oct 5 with 2557 views | blueasfook |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:52 - Oct 5 by PhilTWTD |
And it's no more than the Tweet which was posted by the OP, aside some nonsense about a hedge fund owning the club, which isn't the case. |
Absolutely not. It's pension fund managers. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:09 - Oct 5 with 2513 views | DanTheMan |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:52 - Oct 5 by PhilTWTD |
And it's no more than the Tweet which was posted by the OP, aside some nonsense about a hedge fund owning the club, which isn't the case. |
Yeah, did think that was a bit weird, I assume they got mixed up with the pension fund. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:20 - Oct 5 with 2470 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:36 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
"They’ve got a really good budget in League One, they’ve got it in the Championship"
That's from Phils take and what I felt I'd heard.
It's not a massive thing so I don't wanna derail this thread. But I just personally dont see it as a lovely positive comment when it's countered by that budget talk.
But it's pure and utter personal opinion, so happy to be solo on this. |
It's Phil's usual clickbait stuff to generate ad revenue, as others have pointed out that doesn't seem to be what he's said. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:22 - Oct 5 with 2452 views | pointofblue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:29 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
TBH 99% of what he said is belittled by that comment about budgets imo.
Take away the budget talk and it's much better and much more respectable.
i personally don't like it when budgets are brought into the conversation because imo it's like saying hes a good manager but lets be honest it helps that he's got a nice budget. Very pompy Cowley like comments. |
Well of course it does.
Sorry if it sounds anti-McKenna, but do you think he’d be doing as well as manager of Town if Evans was still the owner? | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:28 - Oct 5 with 2414 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:22 - Oct 5 by pointofblue |
Well of course it does.
Sorry if it sounds anti-McKenna, but do you think he’d be doing as well as manager of Town if Evans was still the owner? |
Evans wouldn't have picked KM firstly though.
But yes I do |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:32 - Oct 5 with 2398 views | pointofblue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:28 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Evans wouldn't have picked KM firstly though.
But yes I do |
He wouldn’t have had the quality of player to do so. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:36 - Oct 5 with 2377 views | Herbivore |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:22 - Oct 5 by pointofblue |
Well of course it does.
Sorry if it sounds anti-McKenna, but do you think he’d be doing as well as manager of Town if Evans was still the owner? |
I doubt he'd have been offered the job if Evans was still in charge to be fair. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:37 - Oct 5 with 2374 views | J2BLUE |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:28 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Evans wouldn't have picked KM firstly though.
But yes I do |
Don't be silly.
It's no disrespect to McKenna to say we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:37 - Oct 5 with 2374 views | AlanG296 |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:28 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Evans wouldn't have picked KM firstly though.
But yes I do |
KM is clearly an intelligent man, but he's not a miracle worker. He wouldn't have been interested in working under Evans with the Evans budget. There's only so much you can do with quality coaching, resources do matter if they're well used. | | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:40 - Oct 5 with 2347 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:32 - Oct 5 by pointofblue |
He wouldn’t have had the quality of player to do so. |
Hard to know, not forgetting under Evans we still saw the likes of Lawrence, Fraser, McGoldrick etc come in. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:41 - Oct 5 with 2343 views | pointofblue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:40 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Hard to know, not forgetting under Evans we still saw the likes of Lawrence, Fraser, McGoldrick etc come in. |
McGoldrick was here because he was a sick note and the rest came in one at a time, rather than part of a wellrounded squad. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:46 - Oct 5 with 2323 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:41 - Oct 5 by pointofblue |
McGoldrick was here because he was a sick note and the rest came in one at a time, rather than part of a wellrounded squad. |
Well yes, but if we're saying could KM manager under Evans, then it all depends in what season are we imagining this takes place?
The season he gave Magilton, Keane etc money to burn?
the years after where whilst it wasn't highly competitive, it was still enabled us to offer some attractive wages to some players.. or just the latter years that Mick had?
At the moment, KM is working with a team he put together in league one, players who potentially he could have identified under Evans ownership. we'll never know
But, IMO back to the point within this thread, I feel if you compliment a manager there is no need to mention budgets, because you're countering that compliment. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 15:55]
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:51 - Oct 5 with 2312 views | dirtyboy |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:22 - Oct 5 by pointofblue |
Well of course it does.
Sorry if it sounds anti-McKenna, but do you think he’d be doing as well as manager of Town if Evans was still the owner? |
Doing well? Yes.
As well? No chance, unless Evans backed him with the support staff and changes wanted. |  | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:54 - Oct 5 with 2304 views | portmanking |
Not one to side with Frimley, but he definitely says 'they've got IT in the Championship'. | | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:58 - Oct 5 with 2291 views | pointofblue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:46 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Well yes, but if we're saying could KM manager under Evans, then it all depends in what season are we imagining this takes place?
The season he gave Magilton, Keane etc money to burn?
the years after where whilst it wasn't highly competitive, it was still enabled us to offer some attractive wages to some players.. or just the latter years that Mick had?
At the moment, KM is working with a team he put together in league one, players who potentially he could have identified under Evans ownership. we'll never know
But, IMO back to the point within this thread, I feel if you compliment a manager there is no need to mention budgets, because you're countering that compliment. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 15:55]
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Maybe there is a bit of bitterness there - you yourself have just suggested Mick had tge bad end of Evans’ run. I think Movk is generally being fair, though, and there’s a case of making a mountain out of a molehill. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 16:05 - Oct 5 with 2259 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:58 - Oct 5 by pointofblue |
Maybe there is a bit of bitterness there - you yourself have just suggested Mick had tge bad end of Evans’ run. I think Movk is generally being fair, though, and there’s a case of making a mountain out of a molehill. |
There's no mountain though it was one opinion about the comments.
The rest just became a case of whether subtitles work or not. Lol. | |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 16:20 - Oct 5 with 2230 views | BlueBadger |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 13:55 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Not very bright there Mick
They had the budget in league 1 and now the budget in the championship
Other than Prem Relegated sides, budgets outside of that mean nothing unless you're a coventry and sell a player for £20 mill |
Fancy that, an ill informed Frimmers take looking for 'Konserns' |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 16:25 - Oct 5 with 2210 views | artsbossbeard |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 14:36 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
"They’ve got a really good budget in League One, they’ve got it in the Championship"
That's from Phils take and what I felt I'd heard.
It's not a massive thing so I don't wanna derail this thread. But I just personally dont see it as a lovely positive comment when it's countered by that budget talk.
But it's pure and utter personal opinion, so happy to be solo on this. |
It's a gift.
You get everything wrong. |  |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Mick McCarthy on McKenna on 16:27 - Oct 5 with 2189 views | WeWereZombies |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 16:05 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
There's no mountain though it was one opinion about the comments.
The rest just became a case of whether subtitles work or not. Lol. |
You see, this is where you fall down. The phrase 'making a mountain out of a molehill' relies on there being a molehill, and not in there being a mountain. The illusory mountain is an attempt by someone to magnify the significance of the molehill...
Edit: 'Dino' removed from LaManga's derogatory thread header, McCarthy inserted so as not to cause confusion with O'Brien...or McNeil, Or McGiven...or Hill... [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 16:29]
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 16:51 - Oct 5 with 2138 views | Ryorry |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:54 - Oct 5 by portmanking |
Not one to side with Frimley, but he definitely says 'they've got IT in the Championship'. |
I heard the 'it' too (no subtitles on).
But that's neither here nor there - how many sides in the Champ *don't* have some sort of budget to improve the squad? And as already pointed out by someone, he doesn't say we're amongst the top spenders. |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 17:20 - Oct 5 with 2072 views | Vegtablue |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:54 - Oct 5 by portmanking |
Not one to side with Frimley, but he definitely says 'they've got IT in the Championship'. |
Aye unless Mick pronounces his 'up' like his 'it' then Frimley is surely right in what was said. We don't in the Championship of course (and perhaps why the word is omitted in the subtitles) but comparatively Mick had to work on a shoestring here. I'm sure he's making reference to this (the difficulties he's faced in management) far more than he is qualifying his assessment of McKenna. Top man. | | | |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 17:41 - Oct 5 with 2043 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Dino Mick on McKenna on 15:54 - Oct 5 by portmanking |
Not one to side with Frimley, but he definitely says 'they've got IT in the Championship'. |
Indeed, and the fact that he follows up with "he's still got to coach them though" suggests we have a big budget for the Champ, or certainly more than he had (which may well be right).
I think he's basically saying 'McKenna has worked wonders, done great coaching, but he's got a bigger budget than I ever had.'  |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 17:43 - Oct 5 with 2032 views | noggin |
He'll be gutted that we're doing well without him |  |
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| Dino Mick on McKenna on 17:50 - Oct 5 with 2006 views | Coastalblue |
Best bit about that is Mick sitting behind and talking into a great big mic with Tippy Tappy Football in large text on it. |  |
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