| What we learned from last night 08:33 - Oct 26 with 4017 views | nodge_blue |
1. Morsey continues to be our key player. Without him i doubt we would win that. He just gives us control in tough moments. Shields the ball so well.
2. Our passing out from the back is how we play but at times in the second half was making me pretty ill. I guess i just needed a second goal really.
3. Bristol fans were decent. No problems in the pub. Veggie burger in the tobacco factory not my thing though. Did you see the 10 lads near the away end just gesturing at us for sll 90 minutes? That sarcastic smiling and hand gestures for the whole game is a weird way to spend your season ticket. And did anyone see the white van driving away sfter the game? Not football fans i think. One bloke hanging out of the window banging on the side of it and yelling f the old bill, kill the old bill. Someone in the football crowd said something and they stopped it in the middle of the road and about 5 of them all piled out. It was pretty scary for a minute. Is there a disturbing edge coming back more? Or am i just getting older and want zero hassle and find hassle more unsettling that i would have brushed off 20 years ago?
4. Back to the game... Scarlett could have done a touch more. He looks a bit light weight as a lone striker.
5. I read alot of fans on other forums thinking the top 2 is done. Its not though is it. Is it? We seem to be winning all the fine margin games. I cant decide if we wre bucking the fine odds or we actually deserve to. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 08:35 - Oct 26 with 3964 views | StokieBlue |
On point (5), the underlying data that most podcasts use seems to indicate we actually deserve to be winning these games (ie. xG for attack and defence etc).
Yesterday was very close though, there will be days where that ball crosses the line or their attacker places the header in the corner and not right at the keeper.
We really should have had it done by half time though, that is what caused the nervy last 20 minutes.
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| What we learned from last night on 09:10 - Oct 26 with 3790 views | Garv |
Correct on Morsy but he didn't actually play that well last night I don't think, not on the ball anyway.
I've been a bit disappointed by Scarlett so far. But McKenna will find a way to improve him. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 09:21 - Oct 26 with 3722 views | FrimleyBlue |
Morsy is key, but he was one of those not quite at it last night, he had a good 50 mins imo but after he struggled a fair bit, lost the ball farely often and looked like others, very leggy. Unlucky again to be carded too. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 09:22 - Oct 26 with 3717 views | crossyitfc |
The Morsy shoulder drop is a cheat code |  | | |
| What we learned from last night on 09:36 - Oct 26 with 3642 views | Darth_Koont |
Re: 2 and playing out from the back, I think it shows that Hladky will keep his place unless he has a serious wobble or forced out through injury.
No doubt that Walton is a more commanding keeper when dealing with crosses and generally making himself big. And both are very good — often miraculously good — shot-stoppers.
But Hladky has great feet and distribution especially under the kind of press we were dealing with yesterday.
We’re lucky to have both but I can see that Hladky is currently a little more integral to how we play.
On a side note, it’s great how McKenna can turn around people’s opinions on players by bringing out the best in them. No-one would raise any objections if Hladky, Harness or Burgess were in the starting XI when even 6 months ago there’d have been plenty of doubt expressed. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 09:39 - Oct 26 with 3628 views | wkj |
"Riding the crest of a wave" is something I have seen written by other fans, as well as the bubble is bound to burst. Thing is, it doesn't feel like that at all. It certainly did the year we were 2nd in December under Mick, partly because we had a very threadbare squad that kept dwindling.
We've now played all the teams that look strong in this league bar Leicester, and honestly - its ours to throw away at this point. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 09:47 - Oct 26 with 3584 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What we learned from last night on 09:39 - Oct 26 by wkj |
"Riding the crest of a wave" is something I have seen written by other fans, as well as the bubble is bound to burst. Thing is, it doesn't feel like that at all. It certainly did the year we were 2nd in December under Mick, partly because we had a very threadbare squad that kept dwindling.
We've now played all the teams that look strong in this league bar Leicester, and honestly - its ours to throw away at this point. |
Also a bubble really is a handful of wins, 12 of various types of performances to dig in, score in every game, only concede 2 away from home and score 19 at home, that's not a bubble, that's just where we are as a club. | |
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| What we learned from last night on 11:02 - Oct 26 with 3408 views | BlueBadger |
| What we learned from last night on 09:39 - Oct 26 by wkj |
"Riding the crest of a wave" is something I have seen written by other fans, as well as the bubble is bound to burst. Thing is, it doesn't feel like that at all. It certainly did the year we were 2nd in December under Mick, partly because we had a very threadbare squad that kept dwindling.
We've now played all the teams that look strong in this league bar Leicester, and honestly - its ours to throw away at this point. |
It's not really a 'blip' when we've only lost once since January. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 11:32 - Oct 26 with 3292 views | Whos_blue |
| What we learned from last night on 09:21 - Oct 26 by FrimleyBlue |
Morsy is key, but he was one of those not quite at it last night, he had a good 50 mins imo but after he struggled a fair bit, lost the ball farely often and looked like others, very leggy. Unlucky again to be carded too. |
I thought it was a rare 7/10 for Sam last night.
Seeing him lose the ball is a rare collectors item, but he did that a couple of times last night.
It's a measure of his greatness that we're commenting on a very rare under par performance. But even then he nearly scored. Perhaps it was a 7.5 after all!!!!
And yes, his yellow card was harsh at the time, but he sailed close to the wind on a couple of other occasions.
The most frustrating of the 4 cards was Kayden's. An unnecessary and clumsy challenge. Not to have a downer on Kayden, but it does highlight what we miss when Burns is missing. I like his movement and positioning, but his final ball isn't on a par with Burns.
I think a few have commented we weren't at our best, but I think that is a slight diservice to BC. They made us work hard for that and KM will do his thing and unpick where we can improve. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 12:57 - Oct 26 with 3137 views | nodge_blue |
| What we learned from last night on 09:36 - Oct 26 by Darth_Koont |
Re: 2 and playing out from the back, I think it shows that Hladky will keep his place unless he has a serious wobble or forced out through injury.
No doubt that Walton is a more commanding keeper when dealing with crosses and generally making himself big. And both are very good — often miraculously good — shot-stoppers.
But Hladky has great feet and distribution especially under the kind of press we were dealing with yesterday.
We’re lucky to have both but I can see that Hladky is currently a little more integral to how we play.
On a side note, it’s great how McKenna can turn around people’s opinions on players by bringing out the best in them. No-one would raise any objections if Hladky, Harness or Burgess were in the starting XI when even 6 months ago there’d have been plenty of doubt expressed. |
I think thats one of McKenna's most impressive qualities. His desire to work with players to make them the absolute best they can be, rather than discard and look at the market. That must make those players like jackson want to run through a wall for him. | |
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| What we learned from last night on 13:00 - Oct 26 with 3119 views | RobTheMonk |
| What we learned from last night on 11:32 - Oct 26 by Whos_blue |
I thought it was a rare 7/10 for Sam last night.
Seeing him lose the ball is a rare collectors item, but he did that a couple of times last night.
It's a measure of his greatness that we're commenting on a very rare under par performance. But even then he nearly scored. Perhaps it was a 7.5 after all!!!!
And yes, his yellow card was harsh at the time, but he sailed close to the wind on a couple of other occasions.
The most frustrating of the 4 cards was Kayden's. An unnecessary and clumsy challenge. Not to have a downer on Kayden, but it does highlight what we miss when Burns is missing. I like his movement and positioning, but his final ball isn't on a par with Burns.
I think a few have commented we weren't at our best, but I think that is a slight diservice to BC. They made us work hard for that and KM will do his thing and unpick where we can improve. |
Burns is more suited to that role. He's in essence a right wing back. Jackson has always been better running in behind.
Morsy wanted that one too many touches last night. Luongo was mustard though and has had a quite ridiculous resurgence. |  | | |
| What we learned from last night on 13:44 - Oct 26 with 3016 views | Darth_Koont |
| What we learned from last night on 12:57 - Oct 26 by nodge_blue |
I think thats one of McKenna's most impressive qualities. His desire to work with players to make them the absolute best they can be, rather than discard and look at the market. That must make those players like jackson want to run through a wall for him. |
Agreed.
Giving those players a genuine chance and getting them to perform, I also think it’s key that he has a defined playing approach with a focus on training and getting the details right, not to mention being one of the best and clearest communicators I’ve ever heard, in football and beyond. Players are set up to succeed, not to fail.
I think all of us could do with a Kieran McKenna in work and life! | |
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| What we learned from last night on 14:24 - Oct 26 with 2940 views | GeoffSentence |
"Did you see the 10 lads near the away end just gesturing at us for sll 90 minutes? That sarcastic smiling and hand gestures for the whole game is a weird way to spend your season ticket."
There's a group like that in SARL. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 14:44 - Oct 26 with 2867 views | Vegtablue |
| What we learned from last night on 09:36 - Oct 26 by Darth_Koont |
Re: 2 and playing out from the back, I think it shows that Hladky will keep his place unless he has a serious wobble or forced out through injury.
No doubt that Walton is a more commanding keeper when dealing with crosses and generally making himself big. And both are very good — often miraculously good — shot-stoppers.
But Hladky has great feet and distribution especially under the kind of press we were dealing with yesterday.
We’re lucky to have both but I can see that Hladky is currently a little more integral to how we play.
On a side note, it’s great how McKenna can turn around people’s opinions on players by bringing out the best in them. No-one would raise any objections if Hladky, Harness or Burgess were in the starting XI when even 6 months ago there’d have been plenty of doubt expressed. |
Shot-stopping isn't a clear strength of Walton's, though, honestly. I was surprised by how often this was stated last season given some of the goals he conceded, and so I checked the data to see if my eyes were deceiving me (presented in detail on the Hladky/Walton thread). He was around the 60th percentile for shot-stopping in L1 and was average or below in the Championship, when admittedly he was very young. I don't mean to be critical but shot-stopping is regularly mentioned in favour of Walton on here, when all the evidence suggests he would be outside the Championship's top 10 if given the opportunity.
I believe Walton is probably a top 10 Championship GK overall btw, just to make clear my position. I don't think you could place him in the top 5 though, without seeing him raise his level first. I wouldn't have placed Hladky in the top 20 this summer and was genuinely worried about him, but he's now shown he's as much a top 5 keeper as we are a top 5 team. [Post edited 26 Oct 2023 15:51]
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| What we learned from last night on 15:19 - Oct 26 with 2755 views | Kropotkin123 |
For 1, I'm not sure how continuing to do something already identified is learning something. Also, it is Morsy.
For 5. Many stats I view before this game demonstrated we deserve to be coming out on top of the fine margins. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 15:40 - Oct 26 with 2704 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What we learned from last night on 11:02 - Oct 26 by BlueBadger |
It's not really a 'blip' when we've only lost once since January. |
It's crazy to think that we could release 'I was there when we lost' t-shirts almost as infrequently as 'I was there when Scuse scored' ones. |  |
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| What we learned from last night on 16:13 - Oct 26 with 2642 views | DecageBruce |
Re: #3, I’m not sure the las in the red hat saw any of the game at all as everytime I looked over he was trying make some gesture/face to our fans |  | | |
| What we learned from last night on 20:03 - Oct 26 with 2396 views | Meadowlark |
| What we learned from last night on 09:36 - Oct 26 by Darth_Koont |
Re: 2 and playing out from the back, I think it shows that Hladky will keep his place unless he has a serious wobble or forced out through injury.
No doubt that Walton is a more commanding keeper when dealing with crosses and generally making himself big. And both are very good — often miraculously good — shot-stoppers.
But Hladky has great feet and distribution especially under the kind of press we were dealing with yesterday.
We’re lucky to have both but I can see that Hladky is currently a little more integral to how we play.
On a side note, it’s great how McKenna can turn around people’s opinions on players by bringing out the best in them. No-one would raise any objections if Hladky, Harness or Burgess were in the starting XI when even 6 months ago there’d have been plenty of doubt expressed. |
I disagree with "...no doubt Walton is more commanding at crosses.." but as if to prove your point I was disappointed with that one that he punched rather than catching it. Sometimes keepers do strange things. |  | | |
| What we learned from last night on 21:09 - Oct 26 with 2264 views | gosblue |
| What we learned from last night on 13:00 - Oct 26 by RobTheMonk |
Burns is more suited to that role. He's in essence a right wing back. Jackson has always been better running in behind.
Morsy wanted that one too many touches last night. Luongo was mustard though and has had a quite ridiculous resurgence. |
KM had obviously done his homework and Jackson was picked because Brizzle’s biggest threat comes down their left. I think Hutch would have started ahead of Jackson if that had been a genuine option. Hirst is not yet fit enough to play the full 90 minutes the way he does and in the absence of Freddie, Jackson would be the obvious replacement on 70 minutes. But if we had started with Williams and Hutchinson down the right we would have been murdered. I was more concerned that Mass often found himself on the left wing which left Morsey isolated. City played well and probably deserved a point but we’ll take all three thank you. | | | |
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