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Rooney sacked 10:13 - Jan 2 with 6423 viewsSitfcB

Lollers.

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Rooney sacked on 12:36 - Jan 2 with 2239 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Rooney sacked on 11:13 - Jan 2 by SitfcB

13 weeks not enough time…



Bloody annoying we didn’t beat them.
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Next stop Colchester?!

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Rooney sacked on 12:37 - Jan 2 with 2231 viewsIllinoisblue

Rooney sacked on 11:02 - Jan 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

Actually feel sorry for the guy. He was always on a hiding to nothing taking the job in those circumstances.

I think he'd be better as part of a coaching team, rather than as manager.

His regime at Brum reminded me of Hursts with us. A bad start I'd always difficult for a manager to recover from.


He seemed to throw his players under the bus after every game so I’m sure the squad hated him. He’ll prob end up like Lampard, bouncing from good job to good job but doing nothing to warrant those jobs.

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Rooney sacked on 12:38 - Jan 2 with 2229 viewsChurchman

Rooney sacked on 11:02 - Jan 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

Actually feel sorry for the guy. He was always on a hiding to nothing taking the job in those circumstances.

I think he'd be better as part of a coaching team, rather than as manager.

His regime at Brum reminded me of Hursts with us. A bad start I'd always difficult for a manager to recover from.


No, I have to differ. I don’t feel sorry for him. He wasn’t forced to go and will be well paid for his three months there.

It was a nutty decision to sack Eustace and employ him and not the best decision from his perspective either if he really wants a career in Management. Yet another example of great player not necessarily translating into great Manager. It’s a different skill set.

I know nothing about Birmingham City other than they’ve always come across as the most unpleasant of the midlands clubs and always appear to be in a mess. Only went to St Andrews (known then as the Graveyard) once. It wasn’t the best experience.
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Rooney sacked on 13:25 - Jan 2 with 2139 views_clive_baker_

Rooney sacked on 12:38 - Jan 2 by Churchman

No, I have to differ. I don’t feel sorry for him. He wasn’t forced to go and will be well paid for his three months there.

It was a nutty decision to sack Eustace and employ him and not the best decision from his perspective either if he really wants a career in Management. Yet another example of great player not necessarily translating into great Manager. It’s a different skill set.

I know nothing about Birmingham City other than they’ve always come across as the most unpleasant of the midlands clubs and always appear to be in a mess. Only went to St Andrews (known then as the Graveyard) once. It wasn’t the best experience.


You can't feel sorry for Rooney, he joined a club that were on the coattails of the playoffs and had spent a few quid in the summer, and has overseen relegation form in 1/4 of a season there.

I'm not sure Brum are the best put together club or the sort of environment you would want to work in, but the results under him have been really poor. There's whispers that he's perhaps not applied himself like you might expect a manager too as well, favouring his pigs & blankets and Christmas pints in Manchester over time working with his players. A stark contrast to our 'first one in, last one out' McKenna.
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Rooney sacked on 13:32 - Jan 2 with 2110 viewsMetal_Hacker

Rooney sacked on 13:25 - Jan 2 by _clive_baker_

You can't feel sorry for Rooney, he joined a club that were on the coattails of the playoffs and had spent a few quid in the summer, and has overseen relegation form in 1/4 of a season there.

I'm not sure Brum are the best put together club or the sort of environment you would want to work in, but the results under him have been really poor. There's whispers that he's perhaps not applied himself like you might expect a manager too as well, favouring his pigs & blankets and Christmas pints in Manchester over time working with his players. A stark contrast to our 'first one in, last one out' McKenna.


How can anyone feel sorry for him , was he made to take the job and the money with a gun to his head ?!

Totally stupid appointment by the club and a crazy decision other than financially ( in the long term potentially) by WR himself

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Rooney sacked on 13:58 - Jan 2 with 2063 viewsSwansea_Blue

Gosh. And it seemed such a good move to sack Eustace when he had them in 6th and playing half decent football. Who could have predicted it would turn out badly?


*sarcasm off*

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Rooney sacked on 14:03 - Jan 2 with 2037 views_clive_baker_

Rooney sacked on 13:58 - Jan 2 by Swansea_Blue

Gosh. And it seemed such a good move to sack Eustace when he had them in 6th and playing half decent football. Who could have predicted it would turn out badly?


*sarcasm off*


So weird isn't it. Even if you've made the seemingly odd decision to relieve Eustace of his duties when he was doing well, who then, as a decision maker / DoF sits down and thinks 'right, lets look at the profiles of the sort of managers who are successful in professional football at this level in 2023', and comes to the conclusion that Wayne Rooney fits the mold.
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Rooney sacked on 14:09 - Jan 2 with 2019 viewsOldFart71

To be honest why do these Clubs go for "Names" Just because a player is way above average doesn't make him a manager. Look at the dross we had until McKenna who it has to be said was a stroke of genius by Ashton. Yes McKenna had a good grounding with top clubs, but who else thought he'd turn out to be as good as he is ? People keep throwing these clubs at who McKenna could end up with. But I personally see him staying until and after we gain promotion to the Premier League. If PR is expanded to 35-40,000 capacity it will compete with all but the largest clubs in the Country, so why should McKenna go to anyone but the best ?
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Rooney sacked on 14:12 - Jan 2 with 2001 viewsMookamoo

Rooney sacked on 12:38 - Jan 2 by Churchman

No, I have to differ. I don’t feel sorry for him. He wasn’t forced to go and will be well paid for his three months there.

It was a nutty decision to sack Eustace and employ him and not the best decision from his perspective either if he really wants a career in Management. Yet another example of great player not necessarily translating into great Manager. It’s a different skill set.

I know nothing about Birmingham City other than they’ve always come across as the most unpleasant of the midlands clubs and always appear to be in a mess. Only went to St Andrews (known then as the Graveyard) once. It wasn’t the best experience.


I'm struggling to feel sorry for him. That whole 'golden generation' just believed in their own hype. I don't find it at all surprising none of them have become even mediocre managers.
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Rooney sacked on 14:49 - Jan 2 with 1947 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Rooney sacked on 12:03 - Jan 2 by Nthsuffolkblue

To be fair, 13 weeks is a ridiculously short time. However, his issue was being brought into a team that had 16 points from 11 matches and was on the verge of the play-offs and turning them into a rock bottom side with 10 points from 15 matches. A dreadful appointment in the first place after a poor decision to sack a manager who was doing OK anyway.


I think his issue was being brought in to manage a team with a group of players not remotely able to play the style he was told to make them play, then not having the gumption to be able to say (nor perhaps the sense to relasie it), they can't play like that so you're going to have to keep watching more defensive football until we bring in players that can play that way, I need 4 transfer windows to facilitate the turnover in players to accommodate a more attacking style.

It's like asking a bunch of right handers to bat lefty and then being surprised that not only are they failing to smash boundaries all over the park but also they are getting out for very low scores.

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Rooney sacked on 15:26 - Jan 2 with 1878 viewsBlueBadger

Rooney sacked on 11:02 - Jan 2 by Marshalls_Mullet

Actually feel sorry for the guy. He was always on a hiding to nothing taking the job in those circumstances.

I think he'd be better as part of a coaching team, rather than as manager.

His regime at Brum reminded me of Hursts with us. A bad start I'd always difficult for a manager to recover from.


He is VERY famous.

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Rooney sacked on 15:28 - Jan 2 with 1869 viewsArnoldMoorhen

The mad thing about this is that they have done this 2 days into a very short transfer window.

It will take time to bring a new manager in, presumably, unless they are currently out of work. If so, and they have been approached in advance, they may have spent some time looking at the market for new players. But they won't have had any day to day time with the current squad to assess them properly, or even understand where their heads are at after a chaotic couple of months.

If they are currently at another club they will have been preparing for the window based on that club's needs, opportunities and budget. And now they will have to come in, adjust, assess the Birmingham squad, and draw up transfer targets for them. They will be a long way behind, already.

Unless, of course, under their US ownership, all transfer business is carried out by a separate department, reporting to the board. While that may mean they are in a better position re the transfer window, it will limit the number of UK managers willing to those willing to operate within such constraints.
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Rooney sacked on 15:35 - Jan 2 with 1839 viewstractorboy1978

Rooney sacked on 15:28 - Jan 2 by ArnoldMoorhen

The mad thing about this is that they have done this 2 days into a very short transfer window.

It will take time to bring a new manager in, presumably, unless they are currently out of work. If so, and they have been approached in advance, they may have spent some time looking at the market for new players. But they won't have had any day to day time with the current squad to assess them properly, or even understand where their heads are at after a chaotic couple of months.

If they are currently at another club they will have been preparing for the window based on that club's needs, opportunities and budget. And now they will have to come in, adjust, assess the Birmingham squad, and draw up transfer targets for them. They will be a long way behind, already.

Unless, of course, under their US ownership, all transfer business is carried out by a separate department, reporting to the board. While that may mean they are in a better position re the transfer window, it will limit the number of UK managers willing to those willing to operate within such constraints.


A Birmingham supporting mate of mine reckons they will be doing very little if any business this window. They are very tight with FFP I think and spent money from Chong/Bellingham add ons in the summer.
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Rooney sacked on 18:20 - Jan 2 with 1718 viewsMK1

Have they the same owners as Watford?

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Rooney sacked on 18:35 - Jan 2 with 1695 viewsSwansea_Blue

Rooney sacked on 14:03 - Jan 2 by _clive_baker_

So weird isn't it. Even if you've made the seemingly odd decision to relieve Eustace of his duties when he was doing well, who then, as a decision maker / DoF sits down and thinks 'right, lets look at the profiles of the sort of managers who are successful in professional football at this level in 2023', and comes to the conclusion that Wayne Rooney fits the mold.


I can only assume that they’re utterly clueless. There was normally some logic to Marcus Evans’ appointments, even though they were still poor. But Rooney? Made no sense at all.

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Rooney sacked on 18:47 - Jan 2 with 1669 viewsMK1

Rooney sacked on 18:35 - Jan 2 by Swansea_Blue

I can only assume that they’re utterly clueless. There was normally some logic to Marcus Evans’ appointments, even though they were still poor. But Rooney? Made no sense at all.


As did Keane's appointment here.

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Rooney sacked on 19:11 - Jan 2 with 1638 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Rooney sacked on 14:49 - Jan 2 by BlueandTruesince82

I think his issue was being brought in to manage a team with a group of players not remotely able to play the style he was told to make them play, then not having the gumption to be able to say (nor perhaps the sense to relasie it), they can't play like that so you're going to have to keep watching more defensive football until we bring in players that can play that way, I need 4 transfer windows to facilitate the turnover in players to accommodate a more attacking style.

It's like asking a bunch of right handers to bat lefty and then being surprised that not only are they failing to smash boundaries all over the park but also they are getting out for very low scores.


If he had the nous and coaching staff to get a team playing a certain style he wouldn't need 4 transfer windows to change the personnel and have them in relegation form in the meantime. He simply hasn't got the managerial attributes to succeed, be that in a Neil Warnock mould or a Kieron McKenna one.

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Rooney sacked on 19:26 - Jan 2 with 1619 viewsSwansea_Blue

Rooney sacked on 18:47 - Jan 2 by MK1

As did Keane's appointment here.


Keane had at least stormed the division only a year earlier. That was something Evans could point to as justification for his choice. His obsession over managers who’d won promotion from the Championship was utterly bizarre though and showed he wasn’t capable of judging the qualities and fit of a prospective manager.

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Rooney sacked on 19:46 - Jan 2 with 1590 viewsSE1blue

If only there has been some historical clues that he’s not the best character to have in charge…

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Rooney sacked on 19:56 - Jan 2 with 1573 viewsTheBoyBlue

Rooney sacked on 19:46 - Jan 2 by SE1blue

If only there has been some historical clues that he’s not the best character to have in charge…


Or there had been another club who had sacked a manager when they were in the play-offs so they could shoehorn a big name in. Just so they could get an idea of what could happen.

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Rooney sacked on 20:01 - Jan 2 with 1557 viewsPowrigan

Rooney sacked on 11:13 - Jan 2 by SitfcB

13 weeks not enough time…



Bloody annoying we didn’t beat them.
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I did say at the time the result was embarrassing, but the usual people didn’t like the fact.
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Rooney sacked on 20:13 - Jan 2 with 1531 viewsmatteoblue

Rooney sacked on 11:13 - Jan 2 by SitfcB

13 weeks not enough time…



Bloody annoying we didn’t beat them.
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'the pursuit of their ambitions'

Ouch

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Rooney sacked on 21:03 - Jan 2 with 1471 viewsBigalhunter

Rooney sacked on 14:12 - Jan 2 by Mookamoo

I'm struggling to feel sorry for him. That whole 'golden generation' just believed in their own hype. I don't find it at all surprising none of them have become even mediocre managers.


Odd isn’t it?

They all had a successful playing career and one decent managerial job behind them, followed by a series of monstrously steaming car crashes.

I’m sure someone can run the numbers, but if you add the last 80 odd games together that Lampard, Gerrard & Rooney have collectively overseen, I reckon the points haul would be utterly comical.

It reminds me of a certain Dortmund midfielder we once knew…
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I give it two hours before…same old accusations, threats to sue for libel…spectacular meltdowns…returns to naughty step..(WhatsApp Group, August 2025)
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Rooney sacked on 21:35 - Jan 2 with 1436 viewsMookamoo

Rooney sacked on 21:03 - Jan 2 by Bigalhunter

Odd isn’t it?

They all had a successful playing career and one decent managerial job behind them, followed by a series of monstrously steaming car crashes.

I’m sure someone can run the numbers, but if you add the last 80 odd games together that Lampard, Gerrard & Rooney have collectively overseen, I reckon the points haul would be utterly comical.

It reminds me of a certain Dortmund midfielder we once knew…
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Trouble is there was always a Ronaldo, Dietmar Hamann or Essien around to make those 3 look much better than they actually were.

They've been found out now they have tried to be managers.
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Rooney sacked on 02:32 - Jan 3 with 1348 viewsBcarefulwhatUWish4

Rooney sacked on 21:35 - Jan 2 by Mookamoo

Trouble is there was always a Ronaldo, Dietmar Hamann or Essien around to make those 3 look much better than they actually were.

They've been found out now they have tried to be managers.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12916937/Wayne-Rooneys-winnin

Surprised his win rate is 26%. Thought it'd be lower than that.
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