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Philogene update... 10:29 - Jul 10 with 19686 viewsITFCBlues


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Philogene update... on 10:31 - Jul 10 with 7775 viewsvilanovablue

If the matching rights expire tomorrow how does this work?
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Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 with 7679 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Philogene update... on 10:31 - Jul 10 by vilanovablue

If the matching rights expire tomorrow how does this work?


They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done.
Hull have to accept.

If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match.

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Philogene update... on 10:34 - Jul 10 with 7571 viewsvilanovablue

Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue

They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done.
Hull have to accept.

If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match.


Well I guess they were going to drive the price up due to the sell on if forced to. I wonder how we respond or if Philogene even wants to warm the bench?
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Philogene update... on 10:37 - Jul 10 with 7411 viewsMidlandBlue25

This seems never ending
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Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7361 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philogene update... on 10:34 - Jul 10 by vilanovablue

Well I guess they were going to drive the price up due to the sell on if forced to. I wonder how we respond or if Philogene even wants to warm the bench?


If they have placed a matching bid, I suspect they are genuinely interested, I cant see them doing it in an attempt to drive the price up.

I think the price is now set, and its down to the clubs to convince JP to join.

AV ditched him once already, MA and KM need to convince him that we are better for his career progression.
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Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7339 viewsmuccletonjoe

Way too much hassle.
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Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7294 viewsRegencyBlue

Philogene update... on 10:34 - Jul 10 by vilanovablue

Well I guess they were going to drive the price up due to the sell on if forced to. I wonder how we respond or if Philogene even wants to warm the bench?


We won’t get in a bidding war with Villa is my guess.

Down to the player now.
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Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7285 viewsnodge_blue

Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue

They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done.
Hull have to accept.

If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match.


Surely the player can still decide where he wants to move. This isn't modern day slavery. If Villa have matched a price then that's one thing, but to make it legally enforceable to someone has to go there seems dubious.

Having said that he may love a move back to Villa.

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Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 with 7258 viewsNthQldITFC

Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue

They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done.
Hull have to accept.

If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match.


Is it not the case that they've matched our bid and it's up to Philogene to decide? And didn't Villa say that they would respect that decision?

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Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 with 7208 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 by nodge_blue

Surely the player can still decide where he wants to move. This isn't modern day slavery. If Villa have matched a price then that's one thing, but to make it legally enforceable to someone has to go there seems dubious.

Having said that he may love a move back to Villa.


Of course he can choose. And that's what its down to now.

Price is agreed, clubs have to sell themselves to the player.

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Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 7151 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 by NthQldITFC

Is it not the case that they've matched our bid and it's up to Philogene to decide? And didn't Villa say that they would respect that decision?


Yep.

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Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 7137 viewsITFCBlues

Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 by NthQldITFC

Is it not the case that they've matched our bid and it's up to Philogene to decide? And didn't Villa say that they would respect that decision?


Yes. They've matched, it's now up to the player.

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Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 7132 viewsportmanking

FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen.

However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League.

Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?!
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Philogene update... on 10:41 - Jul 10 with 6999 viewsRegencyBlue

Philogene update... on 10:37 - Jul 10 by MidlandBlue25

This seems never ending


It needs to be brought to a conclusion one way or the other very soon.

If we need to move on to another target we are losing valuable time.
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Philogene update... on 10:42 - Jul 10 with 6934 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 by portmanking

FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen.

However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League.

Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?!


I suspect that now that they have invoked the clause, they have met the deadline and can continue to match it.

The bids have been accepted, there will be no bidding war.

Down to the player now.

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Philogene update... on 10:43 - Jul 10 with 6834 viewsKieran_Knows

Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 by portmanking

FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen.

However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League.

Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?!


I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest.

Ornsteins wording in his tweet yesterday was ‘Villa have matching rights until Wednesday, but will respect players wishes’ which makes me inclined to think they already know that he doesn’t particularly want to go back there.

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Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 with 6812 viewsITFCBlues

Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 by portmanking

FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen.

However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League.

Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?!


I guess they'd then have another period where they could match the bid.

All depends what he wants I guess. Play here week in week out or to risk being a bench option at Villa.

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Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 with 6800 viewsitfc1108

Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 by Marshalls_Mullet

Of course he can choose. And that's what its down to now.

Price is agreed, clubs have to sell themselves to the player.


And his agent!
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Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 with 6731 viewsOldFart71

I would suggest if the guy is that unsure of where he wants to go we go for someone else. We don't want players at ITFC who aren't 100% signed on to the project. We have a decent squad of players who along with Freddie and Kayden Jackson, Dom Ball etc all who played their part even they they weren't regulars. We need to keep that mindset regardless of who or how much they cost.
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Philogene update... on 10:45 - Jul 10 with 6698 viewsWeirdFishes

Philogene update... on 10:43 - Jul 10 by Kieran_Knows

I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest.

Ornsteins wording in his tweet yesterday was ‘Villa have matching rights until Wednesday, but will respect players wishes’ which makes me inclined to think they already know that he doesn’t particularly want to go back there.


My thinking is why would they bother matching our bid if they knew he didn’t want to go there.

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Philogene update... on 10:45 - Jul 10 with 6644 viewsBseaBlue

Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 by ITFCBlues

I guess they'd then have another period where they could match the bid.

All depends what he wants I guess. Play here week in week out or to risk being a bench option at Villa.


Villa do have champions league football though dont they which will mean more squad rotation etc.
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Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 with 6640 viewsKieran_Knows

Philogene update... on 10:45 - Jul 10 by WeirdFishes

My thinking is why would they bother matching our bid if they knew he didn’t want to go there.


To make a quick few quid on him, I suspect. This thing happens all the time out in Italy.

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Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 with 6618 viewsportmanking

Philogene update... on 10:43 - Jul 10 by Kieran_Knows

I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest.

Ornsteins wording in his tweet yesterday was ‘Villa have matching rights until Wednesday, but will respect players wishes’ which makes me inclined to think they already know that he doesn’t particularly want to go back there.


Good point re. Ornstein.

If Barcelona is genuinely his goal, will get that move by being a bit-part player at Villa?

I'd argue being a stand-out player for us would give him a greater platform to get the move!
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Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 with 6585 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 by itfc1108

And his agent!


If I were JP I would be sending that agent to fetch my belongings from Hull rather than getting him involved in discussions.

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Philogene update... on 10:47 - Jul 10 with 6475 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 by Kieran_Knows

To make a quick few quid on him, I suspect. This thing happens all the time out in Italy.


That would only work with a buy back clause that was set at a price below market value.

It doesn't really work with a matching clause.

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