Philogene update... 10:29 - Jul 10 with 19686 views | ITFCBlues | |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:31 - Jul 10 with 7775 views | vilanovablue | If the matching rights expire tomorrow how does this work? |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 with 7679 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Philogene update... on 10:31 - Jul 10 by vilanovablue | If the matching rights expire tomorrow how does this work? |
They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done. Hull have to accept. If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:34 - Jul 10 with 7571 views | vilanovablue |
Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue | They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done. Hull have to accept. If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match. |
Well I guess they were going to drive the price up due to the sell on if forced to. I wonder how we respond or if Philogene even wants to warm the bench? |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:37 - Jul 10 with 7411 views | MidlandBlue25 | This seems never ending |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7361 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Philogene update... on 10:34 - Jul 10 by vilanovablue | Well I guess they were going to drive the price up due to the sell on if forced to. I wonder how we respond or if Philogene even wants to warm the bench? |
If they have placed a matching bid, I suspect they are genuinely interested, I cant see them doing it in an attempt to drive the price up. I think the price is now set, and its down to the clubs to convince JP to join. AV ditched him once already, MA and KM need to convince him that we are better for his career progression. [Post edited 10 Jul 2024 10:38]
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Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7339 views | muccletonjoe | Way too much hassle. |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7294 views | RegencyBlue |
Philogene update... on 10:34 - Jul 10 by vilanovablue | Well I guess they were going to drive the price up due to the sell on if forced to. I wonder how we respond or if Philogene even wants to warm the bench? |
We won’t get in a bidding war with Villa is my guess. Down to the player now. |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 with 7285 views | nodge_blue |
Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue | They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done. Hull have to accept. If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match. |
Surely the player can still decide where he wants to move. This isn't modern day slavery. If Villa have matched a price then that's one thing, but to make it legally enforceable to someone has to go there seems dubious. Having said that he may love a move back to Villa. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 with 7258 views | NthQldITFC |
Philogene update... on 10:33 - Jul 10 by Cheltenham_Blue | They had til today to match the Town bid, which they've done. Hull have to accept. If the bid goes up Villa have til the end of today to match. |
Is it not the case that they've matched our bid and it's up to Philogene to decide? And didn't Villa say that they would respect that decision? |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 with 7208 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Philogene update... on 10:38 - Jul 10 by nodge_blue | Surely the player can still decide where he wants to move. This isn't modern day slavery. If Villa have matched a price then that's one thing, but to make it legally enforceable to someone has to go there seems dubious. Having said that he may love a move back to Villa. |
Of course he can choose. And that's what its down to now. Price is agreed, clubs have to sell themselves to the player. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 7151 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 by NthQldITFC | Is it not the case that they've matched our bid and it's up to Philogene to decide? And didn't Villa say that they would respect that decision? |
Yep. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 7137 views | ITFCBlues |
Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 by NthQldITFC | Is it not the case that they've matched our bid and it's up to Philogene to decide? And didn't Villa say that they would respect that decision? |
Yes. They've matched, it's now up to the player. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 7132 views | portmanking | FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen. However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League. Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?! |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:41 - Jul 10 with 6999 views | RegencyBlue |
Philogene update... on 10:37 - Jul 10 by MidlandBlue25 | This seems never ending |
It needs to be brought to a conclusion one way or the other very soon. If we need to move on to another target we are losing valuable time. |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:42 - Jul 10 with 6934 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 by portmanking | FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen. However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League. Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?! |
I suspect that now that they have invoked the clause, they have met the deadline and can continue to match it. The bids have been accepted, there will be no bidding war. Down to the player now. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:43 - Jul 10 with 6834 views | Kieran_Knows |
Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 by portmanking | FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen. However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League. Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?! |
I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest. Ornsteins wording in his tweet yesterday was ‘Villa have matching rights until Wednesday, but will respect players wishes’ which makes me inclined to think they already know that he doesn’t particularly want to go back there. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 with 6812 views | ITFCBlues |
Philogene update... on 10:40 - Jul 10 by portmanking | FFS. I had a weird feeling this would happen. However, is he going to get more game time there than at Everton? I guess they may need to rotate more now that they're in the Champions League. Could we technically wait until 11.50pm tonight and make an improved offer?! |
I guess they'd then have another period where they could match the bid. All depends what he wants I guess. Play here week in week out or to risk being a bench option at Villa. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 with 6800 views | itfc1108 |
Philogene update... on 10:39 - Jul 10 by Marshalls_Mullet | Of course he can choose. And that's what its down to now. Price is agreed, clubs have to sell themselves to the player. |
And his agent! |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 with 6731 views | OldFart71 | I would suggest if the guy is that unsure of where he wants to go we go for someone else. We don't want players at ITFC who aren't 100% signed on to the project. We have a decent squad of players who along with Freddie and Kayden Jackson, Dom Ball etc all who played their part even they they weren't regulars. We need to keep that mindset regardless of who or how much they cost. |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:45 - Jul 10 with 6698 views | WeirdFishes |
Philogene update... on 10:43 - Jul 10 by Kieran_Knows | I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest. Ornsteins wording in his tweet yesterday was ‘Villa have matching rights until Wednesday, but will respect players wishes’ which makes me inclined to think they already know that he doesn’t particularly want to go back there. |
My thinking is why would they bother matching our bid if they knew he didn’t want to go there. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:45 - Jul 10 with 6644 views | BseaBlue |
Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 by ITFCBlues | I guess they'd then have another period where they could match the bid. All depends what he wants I guess. Play here week in week out or to risk being a bench option at Villa. |
Villa do have champions league football though dont they which will mean more squad rotation etc. |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 with 6640 views | Kieran_Knows |
Philogene update... on 10:45 - Jul 10 by WeirdFishes | My thinking is why would they bother matching our bid if they knew he didn’t want to go there. |
To make a quick few quid on him, I suspect. This thing happens all the time out in Italy. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 with 6618 views | portmanking |
Philogene update... on 10:43 - Jul 10 by Kieran_Knows | I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference to be honest. Ornsteins wording in his tweet yesterday was ‘Villa have matching rights until Wednesday, but will respect players wishes’ which makes me inclined to think they already know that he doesn’t particularly want to go back there. |
Good point re. Ornstein. If Barcelona is genuinely his goal, will get that move by being a bit-part player at Villa? I'd argue being a stand-out player for us would give him a greater platform to get the move! |  | |  |
Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 with 6585 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Philogene update... on 10:44 - Jul 10 by itfc1108 | And his agent! |
If I were JP I would be sending that agent to fetch my belongings from Hull rather than getting him involved in discussions. |  |
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Philogene update... on 10:47 - Jul 10 with 6475 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Philogene update... on 10:46 - Jul 10 by Kieran_Knows | To make a quick few quid on him, I suspect. This thing happens all the time out in Italy. |
That would only work with a buy back clause that was set at a price below market value. It doesn't really work with a matching clause. |  |
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