| Beer 20:06 - Jul 20 with 13835 views | gtsb1966 |
We've had a discussion on here about the good stuff but what about the really bad ones. I bought a case of Shore Leave brewed by BrewDog today. I can't tell you how bad it is. Had to give it away. Waiting for a response from the person I gave it to. |  | | |  |
| Beer on 16:24 - Jul 21 with 2147 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Beer on 13:48 - Jul 21 by Help |
Doom bar and 0%. Ghost ship0% with lemon FFS. Why lemon. |
Ghost ship 0.5% tastes very close to full alcohol ghostship, both have a citrus taste.
Not sure why several posters refer to ghostship being alcohol free because it isn’t. |  |
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| Beer on 16:29 - Jul 21 with 2137 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Beer on 16:24 - Jul 21 by Pinewoodblue |
Ghost ship 0.5% tastes very close to full alcohol ghostship, both have a citrus taste.
Not sure why several posters refer to ghostship being alcohol free because it isn’t. |
Its as good as alcohol free. You really couldnt get drunk on it. I think in much of Europe it qualifies as alcohol free.
I do think there is something to be said for the idea that low alcohol efforts tend to be a bit better than the completely alcohol free ones. |  | | |
| Beer on 16:31 - Jul 21 with 2121 views | DJR |
| Beer on 16:29 - Jul 21 by redrickstuhaart |
Its as good as alcohol free. You really couldnt get drunk on it. I think in much of Europe it qualifies as alcohol free.
I do think there is something to be said for the idea that low alcohol efforts tend to be a bit better than the completely alcohol free ones. |
I am sure I read somewhere years ago that it was impossible to get drunk on beer that was only 0.5% ABV because of all the non-alcohol flushing through the body. |  | | |
| Beer on 16:33 - Jul 21 with 2097 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Beer on 16:31 - Jul 21 by DJR |
I am sure I read somewhere years ago that it was impossible to get drunk on beer that was only 0.5% ABV because of all the non-alcohol flushing through the body. |
I think its that level and below that doesn't need a license to sell either. Used to get shandy in the fizzy drinks aisle that was 0.5% and it was fine for kids to buy.
Annoyingly the supermarkets now insist on pretending even totally alcohol free stuff is illegal to sell without checks... | | | |
| Beer on 16:39 - Jul 21 with 2091 views | WeWereZombies |
| Beer on 16:33 - Jul 21 by redrickstuhaart |
I think its that level and below that doesn't need a license to sell either. Used to get shandy in the fizzy drinks aisle that was 0.5% and it was fine for kids to buy.
Annoyingly the supermarkets now insist on pretending even totally alcohol free stuff is illegal to sell without checks... |
Half a century ago I was told that it was below two percent to be legal for kids to buy, and that Watneys only just made it into the adults only zone...Further back in time we are told that almost everyone drank beer because the low alcohol content was enough to kill off most impurities in the dodgy water was that collected from wells, streams and so on. Fast forward to teh present day and there is a slew of highly alcoholic beers whose only purpose, it seems to me, is to get the drinker onboard the Oblivion Express as quickly as possible. |  |
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| Beer on 16:41 - Jul 21 with 2087 views | stonojnr |
| Beer on 12:21 - Jul 21 by redrickstuhaart |
burtonsisatio, surely, is the ruining of beer by using the crappy water in places like burton and wolverhampton, which are great for ales perhaps, but ruin cold beer. Do you mean "de-burtonise"? If so, I guess noone does it because it costs more and the great british public either dont know or care about the difference. They keep buying fake foreign beer that all tastes much the same from the massive vats of swill in the midlands. |
whether you add or take stuff away they call it the "Burtonize" process I think even if you arent making the water taste like Burton water. You just get the water board to give you a chemical finger print of the water you are using and you add various salts and you can pretty much replicate the water taste of however or wherever you want.
so water isnt the issue regardless of where they brew it anymore.
and the whole thing with Madri and why its been successful is on the whole no people dont really care, they buy more into a brand than a taste, and the taste between the lagers they would drink is very similar anyway. | | | |
| Beer on 17:08 - Jul 21 with 2071 views | Benters |
| Beer on 20:42 - Jul 20 by J2BLUE |
Ghost Ship. Will never understand why people drink that instead of Adnams bitter or broadside.
Like Special Brew infused with potpourri |
Ghost ship is beautiful ale I like the flavour and it’s easy to drink. |  |
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| Beer on 17:10 - Jul 21 with 2067 views | Churchman |
| Beer on 12:24 - Jul 21 by stonojnr |
of all the non-alcoholic beers produced by big breweries, not forgetting a shout out to our very own Ipswich based Big Drop brewing who make very good low abv "alcohol free beers". ghost ship alcohol free is probably one of the better ones, it doesnt taste like the real thing obviously, but its good enough approximation considering some Ive tried.
like if you want to try a really bad attempt at one try St Peters Without, its like they just bottled the wort, its malt liquor basically, horrid stuff. |
I am not a fan of non alcoholic beer and rarely drink it. Becks Blue is tolerable but I’d rather have a lime and soda.
Madri? Bought some of that as it was on offer the other week - yet to try it.
Meeting a chum in London next week starting at the Chandos off Trafalgar Sq. They serve Samuel Smiths which is and always was dreadful. It’s not even cheap any more, but he likes it - but then he is pretty crazy. |  | | |
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| Beer on 20:28 - Jul 21 with 1980 views | ITFCson |
A friend of mine was once drank copious sums of Carlsberg one Sunday afternoon. He proceeded to call the helpline on the back of the can and told them he needed help as had drank too many of their lagers. A funny exchange proceeded with the call handler. TWTD. | | | |
| Beer on 20:32 - Jul 21 with 1975 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Beer on 16:39 - Jul 21 by WeWereZombies |
Half a century ago I was told that it was below two percent to be legal for kids to buy, and that Watneys only just made it into the adults only zone...Further back in time we are told that almost everyone drank beer because the low alcohol content was enough to kill off most impurities in the dodgy water was that collected from wells, streams and so on. Fast forward to teh present day and there is a slew of highly alcoholic beers whose only purpose, it seems to me, is to get the drinker onboard the Oblivion Express as quickly as possible. |
Which ones are you talking about?
Tramp juice has been a thing for decades. Kestrel super, Gold label, Tennets super etc. | | | |
| Beer on 20:34 - Jul 21 with 1972 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Beer on 16:41 - Jul 21 by stonojnr |
whether you add or take stuff away they call it the "Burtonize" process I think even if you arent making the water taste like Burton water. You just get the water board to give you a chemical finger print of the water you are using and you add various salts and you can pretty much replicate the water taste of however or wherever you want.
so water isnt the issue regardless of where they brew it anymore.
and the whole thing with Madri and why its been successful is on the whole no people dont really care, they buy more into a brand than a taste, and the taste between the lagers they would drink is very similar anyway. |
Water is definitely a big part of the issue. But certainly not the only one. The hard water in the major brewing centres does not suit lagered beer. Costs money to remove it. Why would they when the british public lap up Madri, thinking its something exotic?!!! | | | |
| Beer on 20:42 - Jul 21 with 1963 views | WeWereZombies |
| Beer on 20:32 - Jul 21 by redrickstuhaart |
Which ones are you talking about?
Tramp juice has been a thing for decades. Kestrel super, Gold label, Tennets super etc. |
Skol Special is the first I remember, mid Seventies (in The Swan) but the extra strong beers back then were still not as strong as what has come onto the market within the last decade or so (or were available in Czechoslovakia but not many of us went there before the fall of the Wall so I cannot confirm that.) The few high strength beers were also quite pricey compared to run of the mill Tolly out of the taps and so on resulting in not so many drinkers buying them. Of course some parts of these islands had latched onto Buckfast before others.
There was also the common practice of leaving spirits until the end of the night, people were generally happy to just mellow out over an evening and leave the knockout punch to last. When the snakebite habit became widespread I was already long married with kids so I cannot comment on that either. | |
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| Beer on 21:21 - Jul 21 with 1926 views | hoppy |
| Beer on 12:45 - Jul 21 by thebooks |
Any kind of “fruity” IPA I find pretty disgusting and often very samey. I don’t understand why this appears to be the default craft brewery approach.
On the other hand, I like IPAs that are quite bitter with the hops – and strong. You can get Proper Job even in Lidl, and it’s delicious.
Every marketing beer – Madri, Cruzcampo, Peroni – tastes exactly the same and is thoroughly depressing to drink.
I read the phrase “reduced strength Leffe” in this thread and now I feel very sad. |
I have to agree on the Proper Job. £1.89 a bottle in Aldi, and it is a lovely beer - 5.5% but the only downside is that it just goes down way too easily, chilled and refreshing. |  |
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| Beer on 21:25 - Jul 21 with 1918 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Beer on 20:42 - Jul 21 by WeWereZombies |
Skol Special is the first I remember, mid Seventies (in The Swan) but the extra strong beers back then were still not as strong as what has come onto the market within the last decade or so (or were available in Czechoslovakia but not many of us went there before the fall of the Wall so I cannot confirm that.) The few high strength beers were also quite pricey compared to run of the mill Tolly out of the taps and so on resulting in not so many drinkers buying them. Of course some parts of these islands had latched onto Buckfast before others.
There was also the common practice of leaving spirits until the end of the night, people were generally happy to just mellow out over an evening and leave the knockout punch to last. When the snakebite habit became widespread I was already long married with kids so I cannot comment on that either. |
Skol Special (White Tops) were all the range mid 80's and Holsten Pils proceeded that.
Tennants Super, Kestral Super (circa 9%) have all been readily available (amongst others) from at least the same time and way back before then Carlesberg did a strong brew in a small gold can.
In fact, a fridge wasn't a fridge back then without Kestra Super and some Red label Thunderbird. |  |
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| Beer on 22:55 - Jul 21 with 1853 views | WeWereZombies |
| Beer on 21:25 - Jul 21 by Lord_Lucan |
Skol Special (White Tops) were all the range mid 80's and Holsten Pils proceeded that.
Tennants Super, Kestral Super (circa 9%) have all been readily available (amongst others) from at least the same time and way back before then Carlesberg did a strong brew in a small gold can.
In fact, a fridge wasn't a fridge back then without Kestra Super and some Red label Thunderbird. |
Thunderbird, there's a blast from the past. My weekend used to start with a drive up from Ipswich, stop off at a corner shop on the North Circular for the wine and then round to her bedsit... | |
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| Beer on 23:30 - Jul 21 with 1826 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Beer on 22:46 - Jul 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Even the stuff you say you like has deteriorated.
Carling reduced in strength and flavour (but continued to be advertised, immorally, but just legally as the original strength).
There is a rumour that Madri is the old Carling recipe.
All slop brewed in the same massive vats in England. Get some Budvar in. |
Madri isn’t pleasant. I hate these generic ‘foreign’ lagers all brewed in the UK. At least Stella used to taste of something, but this shift to lower alcohol content had killed them all off. They were never the most flavourful, but a couple of cold ones on a hot day could hit the spot. Not any more. Kronenbourg the latest to get the 4.6% treatment. They’re all the same now. |  |
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| Beer on 03:47 - Jul 22 with 1755 views | Benters |
| Beer on 21:21 - Jul 21 by hoppy |
I have to agree on the Proper Job. £1.89 a bottle in Aldi, and it is a lovely beer - 5.5% but the only downside is that it just goes down way too easily, chilled and refreshing. |
Proper Job is a lovely drop of ale. | |
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| Beer on 06:06 - Jul 22 with 1719 views | Churchman |
| Beer on 20:42 - Jul 21 by WeWereZombies |
Skol Special is the first I remember, mid Seventies (in The Swan) but the extra strong beers back then were still not as strong as what has come onto the market within the last decade or so (or were available in Czechoslovakia but not many of us went there before the fall of the Wall so I cannot confirm that.) The few high strength beers were also quite pricey compared to run of the mill Tolly out of the taps and so on resulting in not so many drinkers buying them. Of course some parts of these islands had latched onto Buckfast before others.
There was also the common practice of leaving spirits until the end of the night, people were generally happy to just mellow out over an evening and leave the knockout punch to last. When the snakebite habit became widespread I was already long married with kids so I cannot comment on that either. |
I only tried snakebite once - about ten years ago. It actually tasted ok but a few of those and the effect was …..regrettable. Never again.
Now spirits at the end of the night - I’d forgotten that. Unless we were going on somewhere that’s what we did (money permitting). There was the odd exceptional occasion like my 21st birthday. We did a pint and a chaser in every pub. We did ten pubs between where I was renting and a Chinese in Orpington. Absolute carnage topped off by being thrown out of the restaurant
It wasn’t that long a walk and just shows how many pubs there used to be. | | | |
| Beer on 07:35 - Jul 22 with 1680 views | DJR |
With supposed continental lagers being the flavour of the month in the UK, and the watering down of alcoholic content, interesting to see from this article that full strength Tennant's Super and Extra have become somewhat trendy in Italy.
https://www.ft.com/content/095bdb83-12d5-4cb1-8d1a-910cfc7cc685
If you can't access the article, I thought this quote was great.
“In Scotland, it’s for beetroot-faced street jaikies who have shat themselves but huvnae noticed, in Italy, it’s for sipping cold under the sun in a classy piazza with breadsticks and olives,” wrote Redditor Ferguson00.
Here's an article that isn't paywalled.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/bizarre-reason-italians-cant-enough-2218 [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 7:37]
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| Beer on 07:58 - Jul 22 with 1650 views | DJR |
| Beer on 06:06 - Jul 22 by Churchman |
I only tried snakebite once - about ten years ago. It actually tasted ok but a few of those and the effect was …..regrettable. Never again.
Now spirits at the end of the night - I’d forgotten that. Unless we were going on somewhere that’s what we did (money permitting). There was the odd exceptional occasion like my 21st birthday. We did a pint and a chaser in every pub. We did ten pubs between where I was renting and a Chinese in Orpington. Absolute carnage topped off by being thrown out of the restaurant
It wasn’t that long a walk and just shows how many pubs there used to be. |
These days there are only a couple of pubs in and around the centre of Orpington, and even the Wetherspoons closed down about three years ago. | | | |
| Beer on 08:02 - Jul 22 with 1641 views | WeWereZombies |
| Beer on 07:35 - Jul 22 by DJR |
With supposed continental lagers being the flavour of the month in the UK, and the watering down of alcoholic content, interesting to see from this article that full strength Tennant's Super and Extra have become somewhat trendy in Italy.
https://www.ft.com/content/095bdb83-12d5-4cb1-8d1a-910cfc7cc685
If you can't access the article, I thought this quote was great.
“In Scotland, it’s for beetroot-faced street jaikies who have shat themselves but huvnae noticed, in Italy, it’s for sipping cold under the sun in a classy piazza with breadsticks and olives,” wrote Redditor Ferguson00.
Here's an article that isn't paywalled.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/bizarre-reason-italians-cant-enough-2218 [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 7:37]
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Italians start drinking Tennents and then elect far right president, go figure...
On a more serious note, Scotland had a concerted effort to restrict alcohol sales down to reasonable levels over the last decade or so and it seems to have had an effect. Of course there is an argument against 'nanny state' tactics but from my own personal and anecdotal experience Glasgow feels like a safer place to walk around in with an English accent.
And that's important when you roll out of a club onto Sauciehall Street at three in the morning.
https://publichealthscotland.scot/news/2022/june/latest-information-on-alcohol-c | |
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| Beer on 08:06 - Jul 22 with 1632 views | Churchman |
| Beer on 07:58 - Jul 22 by DJR |
These days there are only a couple of pubs in and around the centre of Orpington, and even the Wetherspoons closed down about three years ago. |
I know! Depressing. We started in St Mary Cray. There were quite a few there back in the day, most of them a bit rough. Now there is just the one. | | | |
| Beer on 08:40 - Jul 22 with 1598 views | hype313 |
| Beer on 16:31 - Jul 21 by DJR |
I am sure I read somewhere years ago that it was impossible to get drunk on beer that was only 0.5% ABV because of all the non-alcohol flushing through the body. |
Wasn't Top Deck 0.5% back in the day? |  |
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| Beer on 08:41 - Jul 22 with 1592 views | DJR |
| Beer on 08:06 - Jul 22 by Churchman |
I know! Depressing. We started in St Mary Cray. There were quite a few there back in the day, most of them a bit rough. Now there is just the one. |
Yes, the two I mentioned were the Maxwell by the station and a large bar in the centre. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 8:49]
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| Beer on 15:46 - Jul 22 with 1503 views | Ryorry |
| Beer on 11:51 - Jul 21 by lowhouseblue |
guinness alcohol-free cans - the trick is to just pour them quickly. open can, immediately turn it over into the bottom of a pint glass, as the beer goes into the glass rise the can up. it never over flows. |
Would need to be Speedy Gonzales! but will give it a try, thanks 👍 |  |
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