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Depression Mind Shift Help 10:55 - Jul 23 with 8957 viewsSwailsey

Hi all. As some of you know I’ve long battled with depression, BPD and other mental health issues.

I’ve been quite functional for several years, but since February (after a very toxic and painful breakup), I have relapsed quite badly into just pure sadness.

It doesn’t feel as manic as before, and I am making sure I stick to doing what improves my life - seeing friends, seeing my therapist, improving my diet, taking medication, working, making music, exercising. However, I just feel completely empty, more so than any other time in my life. Nothing seems to be helping. I have a very lucky life and it just doesn’t cut it.

Everything is grey, every morning is a real battle to get up, brush my teeth, shower. It drains all my energy to just exist. I’m trying so desperately hard to cling onto what gives my life purpose - my job (because it stimulates me, and I have a mortgage and live alone), my friendships, attempting to date - although it’s probably not the right time.

I feel like a terrible employee because I don’t have the spark I did a few months ago, I feel like a bad friend because I cancel at times, I feel like part of a human. If I didn’t have my cat I would happily stay in bed all day sometimes.

I’ve never felt quite so flat, apathetic and empty before. I’m really trying here - but I don’t know how to deal with this lack of energy. At least when I was younger I had that manic depression which had highs and lows. Now I just have nothing.

I’m not asking for medical advice, as that’s an unfair burden to put on anyone, and I’m sorry for the look at me post, but if anyone has battled this and could give some help on how to get the spark of life back, I’d really appreciate it.

Thank you.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 18:50 - Jul 24 with 2888 viewsDubtractor

Hello mate

Not sure if this is in any way helpful, and may just be a bit of reciprocal 'look at me' activity, but here goes. I never ever share stuff like this, but this feels like the thread to start.

I've spent my life being pretty bomb proof with regards to my mental health, I'm by no means a 'blokes bloke' or anything, just able to go through life with getting too high or low. That all changed earlier this year, with some work related nonsense making me stressed in a way that massively impacted my mental health. I wasn't sleeping, I lost my appetite, I got the trots on a daily basis, I stopped doing the things I love, started bailing on nights out, and couldn't go 5 minutes without this stress issue dominating my thoughts. It was making me miserable in ways that I'd never experienced before. The weirdest day was the final game against Huddersfield - just a bizarre mix of euphoria mixed with all of the things I've mentioned above.

I'm out of the back end of it now - Brighten The Corners when I bumped into you was about when things were looking up - but its been something of an eye opening experience. I've always worked on the theory that those of us that don't suffer mental health issues will always struggle to understand what it is like for those who do, and I really do think that theory is right now, because I didn't appreciate how tough it is, not at all. I have huge sympathy for anyone who battles this stuff on a daily basis.

I'd love to give you some tips on how I came out of it, but the truth of it is just that the 'problem' went away. I guess the point (if there is one) of this post, is just to share that things do improve, even if its not necessarily in your gift to change it.

If that isn't helpful, I could maybe give you another pep talk on my distrust of privately schooled musicians?

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 21:22 - Jul 24 with 2775 viewsWicklowBlue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 18:50 - Jul 24 by Dubtractor

Hello mate

Not sure if this is in any way helpful, and may just be a bit of reciprocal 'look at me' activity, but here goes. I never ever share stuff like this, but this feels like the thread to start.

I've spent my life being pretty bomb proof with regards to my mental health, I'm by no means a 'blokes bloke' or anything, just able to go through life with getting too high or low. That all changed earlier this year, with some work related nonsense making me stressed in a way that massively impacted my mental health. I wasn't sleeping, I lost my appetite, I got the trots on a daily basis, I stopped doing the things I love, started bailing on nights out, and couldn't go 5 minutes without this stress issue dominating my thoughts. It was making me miserable in ways that I'd never experienced before. The weirdest day was the final game against Huddersfield - just a bizarre mix of euphoria mixed with all of the things I've mentioned above.

I'm out of the back end of it now - Brighten The Corners when I bumped into you was about when things were looking up - but its been something of an eye opening experience. I've always worked on the theory that those of us that don't suffer mental health issues will always struggle to understand what it is like for those who do, and I really do think that theory is right now, because I didn't appreciate how tough it is, not at all. I have huge sympathy for anyone who battles this stuff on a daily basis.

I'd love to give you some tips on how I came out of it, but the truth of it is just that the 'problem' went away. I guess the point (if there is one) of this post, is just to share that things do improve, even if its not necessarily in your gift to change it.

If that isn't helpful, I could maybe give you another pep talk on my distrust of privately schooled musicians?


Sorry to hear of your troubles Dubbers, and again yourself and Swailsey are so brave to share same.

Maybe at some stage in the future when the stars align we could listen to a Dubbers/Swailsey collaboration/mix of tunes?

Unless differences in music, a troublesome second album, music rights, poor management from EMI and various solo efforts cause friction between both parties.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 21:52 - Jul 24 with 2762 viewsSwailsey

Depression Mind Shift Help on 18:50 - Jul 24 by Dubtractor

Hello mate

Not sure if this is in any way helpful, and may just be a bit of reciprocal 'look at me' activity, but here goes. I never ever share stuff like this, but this feels like the thread to start.

I've spent my life being pretty bomb proof with regards to my mental health, I'm by no means a 'blokes bloke' or anything, just able to go through life with getting too high or low. That all changed earlier this year, with some work related nonsense making me stressed in a way that massively impacted my mental health. I wasn't sleeping, I lost my appetite, I got the trots on a daily basis, I stopped doing the things I love, started bailing on nights out, and couldn't go 5 minutes without this stress issue dominating my thoughts. It was making me miserable in ways that I'd never experienced before. The weirdest day was the final game against Huddersfield - just a bizarre mix of euphoria mixed with all of the things I've mentioned above.

I'm out of the back end of it now - Brighten The Corners when I bumped into you was about when things were looking up - but its been something of an eye opening experience. I've always worked on the theory that those of us that don't suffer mental health issues will always struggle to understand what it is like for those who do, and I really do think that theory is right now, because I didn't appreciate how tough it is, not at all. I have huge sympathy for anyone who battles this stuff on a daily basis.

I'd love to give you some tips on how I came out of it, but the truth of it is just that the 'problem' went away. I guess the point (if there is one) of this post, is just to share that things do improve, even if its not necessarily in your gift to change it.

If that isn't helpful, I could maybe give you another pep talk on my distrust of privately schooled musicians?


Lot of love to you mate, I had no idea. Thank you for sharing, it really helps.

I feel so helpless with this. I’ve always managed to get myself out of this before, and it just seems impossible at the moment. These inspiring stories help me and others I’m sure.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:25 - Jul 24 with 2730 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Are you on an antidepressant that starts with "M"?

I have known several people who have taken an antidepressant that has caused this absolute flattening of emotional response.

If you are on this one, or any other antidepressant for that matter, and if this "flattening" of mood (and I would argue "crushing" of mood) is a price that you don't feel is worth paying, then it is worth going back to your GP and explaining how you are feeling. It is then important, if your GP agrees that you should withdraw from it, that you follow their guidance to step down the dose.

Hopefully they would then try a different drug that works in a different way, and you may find that preferable.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:41 - Jul 24 with 2721 viewsTractorFrog

Very weird advice but try watching a film called About Time. Somehow the messages behind it really helped me. I have no idea if it will have the same effect for anyone else but would recommend it anyway.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 00:13 - Jul 25 with 2666 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:41 - Jul 24 by TractorFrog

Very weird advice but try watching a film called About Time. Somehow the messages behind it really helped me. I have no idea if it will have the same effect for anyone else but would recommend it anyway.


Not weird at all, very poignant. If we could live each day again, we would naturally choose to be better, kinder, more in the moment, etc. This is the very best advice, just delivered in a probably uber saccharine Richard Curtis movie format.

I suffer a great deal with mental health issues. The best treatment for me was CBT and a short dose of anti depressants, for the worst period of the illness.

Currently, I'm not on meds, but I'm finding real benefits from the CBT I had with a brilliant therapist, who I'm happy to recommend if anyone wants to DM me.

Mental health issues are very complex, so there is never a 'one size fits all' solution. But try to research and protect your beautiful soul. Find someone who will allow you to exist, but also help you see where you could be in the near, middle and far distant future.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 10:56 - Jul 26 with 2474 viewsEuropablue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:41 - Jul 24 by TractorFrog

Very weird advice but try watching a film called About Time. Somehow the messages behind it really helped me. I have no idea if it will have the same effect for anyone else but would recommend it anyway.


I came back to the thread to say that where relationships are concerned, as hard as it can be in the moment relationships don't work out for a reason and you will naturally find a better fit. My parents divorced when I was a child and that led me into a weird view of relationships in which I felt like relationships only ended because people don't try enough, very often it is obvious when people aren't right for each other even if they don't notice until much later. I really believe that once you really understand who you are and know how you should be treated and how you should treat others, you will find the right person for you eventually, but you do have to be positive and open to opportunities.
To tie in with the movie comment, the common message is that you are where you are supposed to be or will end up where you are supposed to be, and you should not try to replay the past too much or hope to change it. You do have the ability to shape your future through your actions in the present. You do have to accept the pain that comes along with the joy, be that losing a loved one who died or who you broke up with.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 10:58 - Jul 26 with 2474 viewsunbelievablue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 16:43 - Jul 24 by Swailsey

Having read this in full again, it's made me extremely emotional, in a positive way.

Thank you all, and those I've spoken to at length via PM.


Just seen this thread and will DM you.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 12:39 - Jul 26 with 2417 viewsRozz

Depression Mind Shift Help on 18:50 - Jul 24 by Dubtractor

Hello mate

Not sure if this is in any way helpful, and may just be a bit of reciprocal 'look at me' activity, but here goes. I never ever share stuff like this, but this feels like the thread to start.

I've spent my life being pretty bomb proof with regards to my mental health, I'm by no means a 'blokes bloke' or anything, just able to go through life with getting too high or low. That all changed earlier this year, with some work related nonsense making me stressed in a way that massively impacted my mental health. I wasn't sleeping, I lost my appetite, I got the trots on a daily basis, I stopped doing the things I love, started bailing on nights out, and couldn't go 5 minutes without this stress issue dominating my thoughts. It was making me miserable in ways that I'd never experienced before. The weirdest day was the final game against Huddersfield - just a bizarre mix of euphoria mixed with all of the things I've mentioned above.

I'm out of the back end of it now - Brighten The Corners when I bumped into you was about when things were looking up - but its been something of an eye opening experience. I've always worked on the theory that those of us that don't suffer mental health issues will always struggle to understand what it is like for those who do, and I really do think that theory is right now, because I didn't appreciate how tough it is, not at all. I have huge sympathy for anyone who battles this stuff on a daily basis.

I'd love to give you some tips on how I came out of it, but the truth of it is just that the 'problem' went away. I guess the point (if there is one) of this post, is just to share that things do improve, even if its not necessarily in your gift to change it.

If that isn't helpful, I could maybe give you another pep talk on my distrust of privately schooled musicians?


This thread has been on my radar and I had been debating sharing an experience very similar to yours. Thanks for taking the time to write it down.

I'm prone to very occasional periods of "greyness" where I find it difficult to find enjoyment in the things that normally make life worthwhile. These are thankfully few and far between, and normally accompanied by stressful situations at work where I'm feeling overstretched.

During these spells I find myself engaging constantly with a negative voice in my head which is essentially questioning every aspect of my lifestyle and telling me to hit reset. It speaks to a flight response that tells me if I just did "X" this feeling would go away. Over the past few weeks this has been as bad as I've known it. I'm quite even keeled and introspective, I generally like to think I can rationalise my feelings quite well, but it's the first time I've felt such overwhelming discomfort / hostility inside my own head.

Like you, it's hard to pinpoint how or why these feelings go away by themselves. It's easing up now, but given me a bit of a kick up the arse to start being more open and start adding some tools to the arsenal that I can lean on when the fog descends. Gratitude takes serious work.

Everyone's different of course, but it helped in a way reading a similar experience. Glad you're on the up and I hope the same for the OP very soon.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 with 1813 viewsSwailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:21 - Oct 26 with 1791 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


Well done for seeking help and for verbalising your feelings now.

Try to take one day at a time and look to put everything into perspective as much as possible. You are right that Christmas is always a difficult time for many. Think about what matters most and get that sorted out in good time. Plan when you will do things.

Ask for help and make sure you have someone you know you can talk to. Don't be afraid to call the Samaritans if there isn't anyone else to turn to. It is good just to have someone listen sometimes.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 09:24 - Oct 28 with 1667 viewsNutkins_Return

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


Sorry to hear the diagnosis although I think perhaps it's good you have that professional diagnosis.

I'm not great with this sort of thing but would like to try to contribute. I think really don't put pressure on yourself both day by day and for Christmas. Every day is different and there will be good and bad and that's pretty normal.

For me I think just trying and seeing new things always helps. Push yourself to just do it when not feeling motivated. Go to a coffee place/restaurant etc you've never been to (small stuff), pick somewhere you've never visited (even if close) and go and spend some time exploring. Cook something reasonably complex you've never done before. Try something new etc. But just don't put any pressure on anything turning out well etc.

Is there any chance to not work from home as well. Either go into and office or somewhere else? I think working from home is really not good every day in the circumstances.

Exercise really is brilliant. Not sure if you run but that's number 1 for me. Get running or walking in woods. Join a gym.

Not sure any of this helps but really hope you can find enjoyment in the small stuff.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 09:58 - Oct 28 with 1630 viewsWhos_blue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


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Depression Mind Shift Help on 10:25 - Oct 28 with 1592 viewshoppy

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


Hi mate.

My only personal experience has been from living with and supporting a partner who battles with depression and I still struggle to find the right words at times - often no words is probably the right thing in that moment.

If getting out of the house and working somewhere different sometimes would help, then you’re more than welcome to come and work from my office to see if a change of scenery would be beneficial at all - I’ve occasionally seen you walking right past it or close by, so assume you’re not too far away. Give me a shout if you wanted to give that a go.

Another thing that may or may not be of interest if you wanted another thing to focus on - we’re always looking for volunteers to help at Ipswich wanderers on a match day. There’s no pressure or commitment to always be there, but various roles from helping in the bar to stewarding and plenty of other things that need doing - being part of a team that are supportive to each other - again, if of any interest to get involved give me a shout.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 11:03 - Oct 28 with 1547 viewsPhilTWTD

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


Sorry to hear that. Keep on keeping on and believing there will be light at the end of the tunnel. And when it gets tough, know there are always people on here to talk to.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 11:37 - Oct 28 with 1484 viewsChurchman

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:21 - Oct 26 by Nthsuffolkblue

Well done for seeking help and for verbalising your feelings now.

Try to take one day at a time and look to put everything into perspective as much as possible. You are right that Christmas is always a difficult time for many. Think about what matters most and get that sorted out in good time. Plan when you will do things.

Ask for help and make sure you have someone you know you can talk to. Don't be afraid to call the Samaritans if there isn't anyone else to turn to. It is good just to have someone listen sometimes.


I echo NSblue’s comments. Well done for seeking help. There’s lots of ideas thoughts and support from people on here who are far better qualified than me.

Regarding Christmas, just remember that when it comes to it, unless it has major religious meaning for you, it’s just a set of dates to do things, ignore, postpone. Priority is well-being.

Keep posting!
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 11:44 - Oct 28 with 1457 viewsSwansea_Blue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


I've got no experience, but your diagnosis sounds like a massive and positive step forward. You know what you're dealing with now and you'll be able to get the help and support you need. So better times should hopefully be around the corner. best of lucjk and you'll always have people to talk to on here.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 11:44 - Oct 28 with 1457 viewsLinners

Depression Mind Shift Help on 09:24 - Oct 28 by Nutkins_Return

Sorry to hear the diagnosis although I think perhaps it's good you have that professional diagnosis.

I'm not great with this sort of thing but would like to try to contribute. I think really don't put pressure on yourself both day by day and for Christmas. Every day is different and there will be good and bad and that's pretty normal.

For me I think just trying and seeing new things always helps. Push yourself to just do it when not feeling motivated. Go to a coffee place/restaurant etc you've never been to (small stuff), pick somewhere you've never visited (even if close) and go and spend some time exploring. Cook something reasonably complex you've never done before. Try something new etc. But just don't put any pressure on anything turning out well etc.

Is there any chance to not work from home as well. Either go into and office or somewhere else? I think working from home is really not good every day in the circumstances.

Exercise really is brilliant. Not sure if you run but that's number 1 for me. Get running or walking in woods. Join a gym.

Not sure any of this helps but really hope you can find enjoyment in the small stuff.


I like this approach. The world is too massive and scary for our minds a lot of the time so don't be ashamed about staying small - get cosy and watch old films, winter walks, turn off the news, delete social media, get out in nature, grow stuff, do something arty, mend stuff, connect with others where you can but don't put yourself under any pressure.

Allow the feeling to pass without trying to fight it away.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 12:41 - Oct 28 with 1379 viewsottovonbismark

Hi

I wanted echo comments made by others as to how incredibly helpful your original post is. You have a great way of expressing yourself and relating your experiences. I am very grateful to you for writing that post.

I have similar experiences to yours. I also see a therapist as I needed to talk quite badly. One thing i took from a recent discussion with her was how important is is to look at ourselves with compassion, and look at others with compassion. We are in so many ways our own worst enemies at times.

Meditation is one way to live more in the 'here and now', it helps to stop the mind wandering and focusing on things that we can't control. Remember we can't control everything and accepting that and making it the cornerstone of your mindset can help restore balance and perhaps energy. You have energy and spark, otherwise you wouldn't have written the OP.

Allow yourself time to feel compassion for self, mediate on this point, all that we cannot control, the past for example, is unproductive use of energy.

The answers to all of our problems are within, never without. I have joined a men's mental help group that meets via zoom, it has shown me that I am not alone, that feeling down at times is perfectly normal and not at all a reason to be self critical.

Mediate daily, even if for only 10mins, there are some listen along sessions online that I use. I always feel more grounded afterwards.

Wishing you the best, and thank you again for your post. You have helped someone today, probably many.
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 13:27 - Oct 28 with 1343 viewsIndependentlyBlue

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:18 - Oct 26 by Swailsey

Hi all, thank you again for everyone who replied to this and who has continued to message me.

I’m just reposting as I was diagnosed with clinical depression last week and am again looking for any tips to try and reinvigorate my life and general wellbeing.

Aside from doing the basics - working from home, feeding my ill cat and taking my medication, I’m struggling to find joy with anything else, and I’m quite nervous going into the Christmas period.


Hi again. Just to say, while the diagnosis you got may not be what you wanted it can sometimes be easier to deal with something ‘named’ rather than a nameless set of emotions or feelings.

Reading through some of the responses there’s some great ideas there, especially about not getting angsty about the impending Christmas period. Unless it’s important to you in a religious sense it is a time of year when a lot of people may struggle. Perhaps try and find an event going on where you are that you can either join in with or help out at.

As ever, lots of people on here, myself included, who are happy to be contacted by you if you need to.

Stay safe mate and, above all, be kind to yourself.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 13:45 - Oct 28 with 1322 viewsTractorFrog

Depression Mind Shift Help on 22:41 - Jul 24 by TractorFrog

Very weird advice but try watching a film called About Time. Somehow the messages behind it really helped me. I have no idea if it will have the same effect for anyone else but would recommend it anyway.


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They'd all laugh at me if they knew what I was trying to do. To create a new strain of super-wine in half-an-hour with a fraction of nature's resources and a FOOL for an assistant. 'Bernard Black, he's mad,' they'd say, 'he's insane, he's dangerous.' Well I'll show them! I'll show them all!
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Depression Mind Shift Help on 14:58 - Oct 28 with 1229 viewsSwailsey

Thank you to everyone who has replied below/sent me a DM. Never ceases to amaze me how kind TWTD can be when people are struggling - it's really made a difference, thank you.

There are a lot of posts to reply to, so I'll do it all in 1. Thank you to everyone who replied to the original post as well, and I'm sorry if I didn't acknowledge it.

Nthsuffolkblue: Thank you for your kind words. Taking one day at a time and setting small goals feels like a good idea. I have also found that talking to strangers (much like on here) really does help as well.

Nutkins_Return: I really like the idea of setting a new challenge, no matter how big of small. I'll think about that. Re. working from home, that is something that's been mentioned to me before and I know I should look into. I am a fully remote worker, and it's great for my productivity, but it does mean on a rainy day like this I haven't left the house. I do try and make sure I at least walk to the shop, or go grab a pint of coke after work (live right next to a nice pub), but it isn't the same. I am lucky that I have quite an active social life, but Mon-Fri it is tough.

Whos_blue: I genuinely am hoping FPL and Fantrax add it as a skill set next year.

hoppy: Thank you for your support and kindness as always. I will reach out to you about one of your options for sure. Always value bumping into you.

Phil: Appreciate that, and for continuing to give a platform on here for people to speak up.

Churchman: Thank you, and a really good point about Christmas. The pressure that's added to it is huge, but a lot of that may well be in my mind.

Swansea: Thank you, I think it's a step forward too. I've been on anti-depressants for about 15 years, but they've mainly been linked to OCD and another condition. The depression has always been lurking since I was super young, but I think now the other 2 things are under control, it's emerging.

Linners: All really good points, which I should know myself, but sometimes it takes someone else to say it. Thank you.

ottovonbismark: I really, really appreciate your post and I'm sorry that you too struggle. I have always struggled with meditation - I found I really couldn't concentrate - but that may have been symptomatic of what was happening before. I will definitely give it another go.

IndependentlyBlue: Thank you for this. I actually don't mind the diagnosis too much, but I am also going to have to be wary of using it as a crutch at times I think. Again, appreciate the sentiments around Christmas.

TractorFrog: Sorry I missed your suggestion the first time around - I've added it to my list of things to watch over the next week or so, thank you. Thank you also for sharing your story in such detail, I'm sorry for everything you've been through as well, and I'm sorry about your friend. Your post does help.

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Depression Mind Shift Help on 16:54 - Oct 28 with 1171 viewshoppy

Depression Mind Shift Help on 14:58 - Oct 28 by Swailsey

Thank you to everyone who has replied below/sent me a DM. Never ceases to amaze me how kind TWTD can be when people are struggling - it's really made a difference, thank you.

There are a lot of posts to reply to, so I'll do it all in 1. Thank you to everyone who replied to the original post as well, and I'm sorry if I didn't acknowledge it.

Nthsuffolkblue: Thank you for your kind words. Taking one day at a time and setting small goals feels like a good idea. I have also found that talking to strangers (much like on here) really does help as well.

Nutkins_Return: I really like the idea of setting a new challenge, no matter how big of small. I'll think about that. Re. working from home, that is something that's been mentioned to me before and I know I should look into. I am a fully remote worker, and it's great for my productivity, but it does mean on a rainy day like this I haven't left the house. I do try and make sure I at least walk to the shop, or go grab a pint of coke after work (live right next to a nice pub), but it isn't the same. I am lucky that I have quite an active social life, but Mon-Fri it is tough.

Whos_blue: I genuinely am hoping FPL and Fantrax add it as a skill set next year.

hoppy: Thank you for your support and kindness as always. I will reach out to you about one of your options for sure. Always value bumping into you.

Phil: Appreciate that, and for continuing to give a platform on here for people to speak up.

Churchman: Thank you, and a really good point about Christmas. The pressure that's added to it is huge, but a lot of that may well be in my mind.

Swansea: Thank you, I think it's a step forward too. I've been on anti-depressants for about 15 years, but they've mainly been linked to OCD and another condition. The depression has always been lurking since I was super young, but I think now the other 2 things are under control, it's emerging.

Linners: All really good points, which I should know myself, but sometimes it takes someone else to say it. Thank you.

ottovonbismark: I really, really appreciate your post and I'm sorry that you too struggle. I have always struggled with meditation - I found I really couldn't concentrate - but that may have been symptomatic of what was happening before. I will definitely give it another go.

IndependentlyBlue: Thank you for this. I actually don't mind the diagnosis too much, but I am also going to have to be wary of using it as a crutch at times I think. Again, appreciate the sentiments around Christmas.

TractorFrog: Sorry I missed your suggestion the first time around - I've added it to my list of things to watch over the next week or so, thank you. Thank you also for sharing your story in such detail, I'm sorry for everything you've been through as well, and I'm sorry about your friend. Your post does help.


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Depression Mind Shift Help on 17:36 - Oct 28 with 1129 viewsChurchman

Depression Mind Shift Help on 14:58 - Oct 28 by Swailsey

Thank you to everyone who has replied below/sent me a DM. Never ceases to amaze me how kind TWTD can be when people are struggling - it's really made a difference, thank you.

There are a lot of posts to reply to, so I'll do it all in 1. Thank you to everyone who replied to the original post as well, and I'm sorry if I didn't acknowledge it.

Nthsuffolkblue: Thank you for your kind words. Taking one day at a time and setting small goals feels like a good idea. I have also found that talking to strangers (much like on here) really does help as well.

Nutkins_Return: I really like the idea of setting a new challenge, no matter how big of small. I'll think about that. Re. working from home, that is something that's been mentioned to me before and I know I should look into. I am a fully remote worker, and it's great for my productivity, but it does mean on a rainy day like this I haven't left the house. I do try and make sure I at least walk to the shop, or go grab a pint of coke after work (live right next to a nice pub), but it isn't the same. I am lucky that I have quite an active social life, but Mon-Fri it is tough.

Whos_blue: I genuinely am hoping FPL and Fantrax add it as a skill set next year.

hoppy: Thank you for your support and kindness as always. I will reach out to you about one of your options for sure. Always value bumping into you.

Phil: Appreciate that, and for continuing to give a platform on here for people to speak up.

Churchman: Thank you, and a really good point about Christmas. The pressure that's added to it is huge, but a lot of that may well be in my mind.

Swansea: Thank you, I think it's a step forward too. I've been on anti-depressants for about 15 years, but they've mainly been linked to OCD and another condition. The depression has always been lurking since I was super young, but I think now the other 2 things are under control, it's emerging.

Linners: All really good points, which I should know myself, but sometimes it takes someone else to say it. Thank you.

ottovonbismark: I really, really appreciate your post and I'm sorry that you too struggle. I have always struggled with meditation - I found I really couldn't concentrate - but that may have been symptomatic of what was happening before. I will definitely give it another go.

IndependentlyBlue: Thank you for this. I actually don't mind the diagnosis too much, but I am also going to have to be wary of using it as a crutch at times I think. Again, appreciate the sentiments around Christmas.

TractorFrog: Sorry I missed your suggestion the first time around - I've added it to my list of things to watch over the next week or so, thank you. Thank you also for sharing your story in such detail, I'm sorry for everything you've been through as well, and I'm sorry about your friend. Your post does help.


Christmas pressure is real and is what it is. I thought of it because of different problems for me last December which meant Christmas had to be scaled down to a nice dinner at home with Mrs C and taking her to the midnight service (she’s into that stuff). Everything else had to go. Those that mattered understood. There were priorities and Christmas for me wasn’t one of them.

Sometimes, when a lot is going on imaginary and real, prioritisation has been very helpful to me. I always think of the Japanese idea of parking all my problems and concerns in shoe boxes, putting them on a shelf and taking them down one at a time. Childish, a bit stupid and simplistic, but I found it silly but actually useful.

Anyway, there’s lots of people far more knowledgeable than me and this thread has produced loads of helpful suggestions for all of us, actually.

The key thing is you’ve sought advice/help. I wish a friend of mine years ago had been able to do that. Keep posting!
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