| Szmodics today? 10:55 - Jul 29 with 14462 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Lots of places saying it’s all but done. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 10:59 - Jul 29 with 8966 views | Metal_Hacker |
Where’s the latest coming from now Chelts ? |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:13 - Jul 29 with 8343 views | Illinoisblue |
Hope so. Would like to see Morgan Whittaker, too. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:19 - Jul 29 with 8251 views | PhilTWTD |
Wasn't done as of Saturday but was getting closer. Once the fee is agreed, which think it will in pretty short order even if it hasn't already unless Blackburn prove to be unnecessarily difficult, then I think it will happen very quickly after that. |  | | |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 with 8079 views | _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |  | | |
| Szmodics today? on 12:34 - Jul 29 with 7923 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
I said it after our 4-3 win last season that Szmodics suits this system and style down to a tee (albeit that may alter now were in the Prem). I think in any of those front 4 positions he'd be a handful and under McKenna will no doubt improve - like the majority of other players have in their time here.
I've said it all along, but I just see him as a better squad option that Harness. Ability to play in any of those 4 roles, and we know with McKenna he plays certain players in certain games coming up against certain players. Also gives us the option to go old school '2 up top' if we're chasing a game with a big man (Delap/Hirst) and small man combo.
Obviously we want all our signings to have some sort of resell value, but the value in Szmodics will be the goals he (hopefully) scores that keeps us in the Prem and the money that comes with it. Who will care if he cost £8m if he helps us guarantee another £100m+ the season after if we stay up? |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:34 - Jul 29 with 7907 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
Good assessment of the situation so far. I do think Szmodics though is hitting his stride and like Marcus Stewart at 28 when we signed him was value for money. He has all the attributes and tore up the Championship last season in a struggling side. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:36 - Jul 29 with 7819 views | NthQldITFC |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
It's all about the mentality, I think. If a player has the right mentality (and I don't think we'd sign anyone who hadn't now) then I feel confident that KMc will get the best out of him, however he plays him. In a way it's why I like the long, drawn-out chases over several weeks (or even windows) because of the implication that we've done a lot of work on our target's personality as well as his abilities, and he's also well aware that we're a serious club now. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:41 - Jul 29 with 7678 views | JakeITFC |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
I don't know - he looks to me like our type (can play a number of positions, pressing machine, good technical quality) and £8m really isn't a big fee for where we are right now. Similar age and profile to Chaplin/Broadhead but scored twice as many goals as them last year in a far worse team. He fits how we want to play, is in the form of his life and was the top scorer/probable best player in the league we were in last season, I don't see much downside risk at all personally. He's a much surer bet than Delap imo (in terms of likely impact this season) and we do need to do some business for the here and now eventually. |  | | |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:42 - Jul 29 with 7668 views | Garv |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
Personally I couldn't give a flying one what his value curve is. If he does his job for the team and we're successful over the course of his contract it won't matter.
Obviously the question of whether he's PL quality remains to be seen, but he's got a PL arrogance about him and clearly is a goalscorer, it feels like his time to have a go at the top league. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:45 - Jul 29 with 7574 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
We have a squad atm that is very short.
I think the question we need to ask is, does this player improve the squad. Szmodics improves the squad, adds more versatility, will be full of confidence. A solid and much needed addition. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 12:47 - Jul 29 with 7541 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Szmodics today? on 12:34 - Jul 29 by Kieran_Knows |
I said it after our 4-3 win last season that Szmodics suits this system and style down to a tee (albeit that may alter now were in the Prem). I think in any of those front 4 positions he'd be a handful and under McKenna will no doubt improve - like the majority of other players have in their time here.
I've said it all along, but I just see him as a better squad option that Harness. Ability to play in any of those 4 roles, and we know with McKenna he plays certain players in certain games coming up against certain players. Also gives us the option to go old school '2 up top' if we're chasing a game with a big man (Delap/Hirst) and small man combo.
Obviously we want all our signings to have some sort of resell value, but the value in Szmodics will be the goals he (hopefully) scores that keeps us in the Prem and the money that comes with it. Who will care if he cost £8m if he helps us guarantee another £100m+ the season after if we stay up? |
I agree he's a level up on players like Jackson and Harness, so in that respect he improves us vs. last season. It's just whether he's enough of a level up at the best part of £10m for a soon to be 29 year old who for me has only ever looked every bit a Championship player. I don't think every signing needs to be about future value, there's a balance between that and players who can take us to PL level in the here and now. I'm cynical if he offers that though personally.
Do agree with the point about him as a 'false 9' off Hirst or Delap which is where he was so effective last season and making those runs in behind the #9. I'm remaining open minded, I'm just nervous he's had his purple patch. | | | |
| Szmodics today? on 12:53 - Jul 29 with 7413 views | Wickets |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
Nothing I disagree with here but it would worry me if we just go down the young and with potential route perhaps need to remember that hitting the ground running would be advantages. |  | | |
| Szmodics today? on 12:59 - Jul 29 with 7262 views | BiGDonnie |
| Szmodics today? on 12:34 - Jul 29 by Kieran_Knows |
I said it after our 4-3 win last season that Szmodics suits this system and style down to a tee (albeit that may alter now were in the Prem). I think in any of those front 4 positions he'd be a handful and under McKenna will no doubt improve - like the majority of other players have in their time here.
I've said it all along, but I just see him as a better squad option that Harness. Ability to play in any of those 4 roles, and we know with McKenna he plays certain players in certain games coming up against certain players. Also gives us the option to go old school '2 up top' if we're chasing a game with a big man (Delap/Hirst) and small man combo.
Obviously we want all our signings to have some sort of resell value, but the value in Szmodics will be the goals he (hopefully) scores that keeps us in the Prem and the money that comes with it. Who will care if he cost £8m if he helps us guarantee another £100m+ the season after if we stay up? |
I agree. Think signing the best player in the Champ last season is exactly what we should be doing. For £10m or less it's a steal as well. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 13:00 - Jul 29 with 7250 views | Simonds92 |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
Weird.
Does he improve the first XI playing in the Left AM role? I think significantly to be honest. Very high fitness levels, always puts a shift in and is very direct and effective on the ball. He'll drift inside and give Leif the space he needs.
If we obsess about signing young players who might improve rather than having players able to come straight in and improve the first 11 we will get absolutely battered next season. Based on the 2 friendlies (and I know we can't read too much in to them) we are yet to improve on the players we had last season, the new signings look to be of a similar standard, which is good for strengthening the overall squad, but we need to improve on that starting 11. Szmodics definitely does that imo. |  | | |
| Szmodics today? on 13:04 - Jul 29 with 7135 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Szmodics today? on 12:53 - Jul 29 by Wickets |
Nothing I disagree with here but it would worry me if we just go down the young and with potential route perhaps need to remember that hitting the ground running would be advantages. |
I do agree with that. It can't all be about the future and resale values, we need a group of players who can compete in the here and now. The question mark for me is whether he brings us that for the premier league. Appreciate our options are somewhat limited though, we're not going to be going out and buying proven premier league players at that sort of money.
Either way I'm quite relaxed. We've added well on the whole IMO and we've also got a squad of players that got us up and thoroughly deserve the chance to play their part in this season. | | | |
| Szmodics today? on 13:09 - Jul 29 with 7001 views | JamestownPrince |
Southampton signing Ben Brereton for 7 million which might be a bargain | | | |
| Szmodics today? on 13:31 - Jul 29 with 6599 views | SitfcB |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
Not sure why people are so fussed about signing a player with ‘no sell on value’ we can’t sign every single player with the view of selling them for big money further down the line.
He’s not old either. 28 is prime years, I’ve always liked him, should’ve got him when he left Colchester but McKenna is clearly a big admirer because he’s tried for him the last few windows. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 13:38 - Jul 29 with 6430 views | GavTWTD |
| Szmodics today? on 12:42 - Jul 29 by Garv |
Personally I couldn't give a flying one what his value curve is. If he does his job for the team and we're successful over the course of his contract it won't matter.
Obviously the question of whether he's PL quality remains to be seen, but he's got a PL arrogance about him and clearly is a goalscorer, it feels like his time to have a go at the top league. |
I think you can take it down further as to whether we are successful this season or not then he'll have done his job for us. We can't assemble a premiership team in one season.
Personally I think he'll be an excellent signing for us, but ultimately he'd be replacing Sarmiento which people may have issues with. I think he'll surprise a lot of town fans. |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 14:13 - Jul 29 with 6004 views | CBMTOBWMMBG |
| Szmodics today? on 13:00 - Jul 29 by Simonds92 |
Weird.
Does he improve the first XI playing in the Left AM role? I think significantly to be honest. Very high fitness levels, always puts a shift in and is very direct and effective on the ball. He'll drift inside and give Leif the space he needs.
If we obsess about signing young players who might improve rather than having players able to come straight in and improve the first 11 we will get absolutely battered next season. Based on the 2 friendlies (and I know we can't read too much in to them) we are yet to improve on the players we had last season, the new signings look to be of a similar standard, which is good for strengthening the overall squad, but we need to improve on that starting 11. Szmodics definitely does that imo. |
Nothing weird about not rating Szmodics. It's a fair comment. Could easily be described as a 'one season wonder'. He certainly has a very different profile for what we usually look for.
Equally, Harry Kane was once described as a one season wonder!
Guess we'll see | | | |
| Szmodics today? on 14:15 - Jul 29 with 5966 views | textbackup |
| Szmodics today? on 12:34 - Jul 29 by Kieran_Knows |
I said it after our 4-3 win last season that Szmodics suits this system and style down to a tee (albeit that may alter now were in the Prem). I think in any of those front 4 positions he'd be a handful and under McKenna will no doubt improve - like the majority of other players have in their time here.
I've said it all along, but I just see him as a better squad option that Harness. Ability to play in any of those 4 roles, and we know with McKenna he plays certain players in certain games coming up against certain players. Also gives us the option to go old school '2 up top' if we're chasing a game with a big man (Delap/Hirst) and small man combo.
Obviously we want all our signings to have some sort of resell value, but the value in Szmodics will be the goals he (hopefully) scores that keeps us in the Prem and the money that comes with it. Who will care if he cost £8m if he helps us guarantee another £100m+ the season after if we stay up? |
Exactly. Another handy piece of the puzzle |  |
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| Szmodics today? on 14:21 - Jul 29 with 5869 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Szmodics today? on 14:13 - Jul 29 by CBMTOBWMMBG |
Nothing weird about not rating Szmodics. It's a fair comment. Could easily be described as a 'one season wonder'. He certainly has a very different profile for what we usually look for.
Equally, Harry Kane was once described as a one season wonder!
Guess we'll see |
Regardless the only opinion that matters is McKenna and his staff. Think they have earned our trust don’t you!? He’s coming so you’ll be cheering him on soon ;) | |
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| Szmodics today? on 14:37 - Jul 29 with 5625 views | Sharkey |
| Szmodics today? on 12:36 - Jul 29 by NthQldITFC |
It's all about the mentality, I think. If a player has the right mentality (and I don't think we'd sign anyone who hadn't now) then I feel confident that KMc will get the best out of him, however he plays him. In a way it's why I like the long, drawn-out chases over several weeks (or even windows) because of the implication that we've done a lot of work on our target's personality as well as his abilities, and he's also well aware that we're a serious club now. |
Not much work would be needed on finding out about his personality. John McGreal managed him from about 2009 onwards for about a decade. David Wright played alongside him at very different stages of their careers, and Rene Gilmartin was also his team-mate. And Ashton signed him for Bristol City. |  | | |
| Szmodics today? on 14:48 - Jul 29 with 5434 views | marky7itfc |
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| Szmodics today? on 14:53 - Jul 29 with 5305 views | PioneerBlue |
| Szmodics today? on 12:25 - Jul 29 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm pretty indifferent towards this one I have to say, which is the first time I've felt like that about an addition this summer.
Muric I think is a great buy, imposing #1 who brings PL and top club experience. Greaves is class, the upside potential far outweighs the downside on him and he's capable of stepping up a level. Omari, well, we know what we're getting with him. Johnson is a fairly low risk one and brings depth where we really lacked it, I think he'll be fine and again brings some PL experience. Delap isn't without its risk, obviously highly thought of and a high ceiling that we can hopefully help him reach, but £15m is a lot of money. I think he's worth the punt personally.
Szmodics is the first one who doesn't float my boat massively. Not in the "young and with potential" category, not cheap, doesn't bring any top flight experience either and has been patchy historically at lower levels. We're buying at the absolute top of his value curve and I'm not convinced he's going to kick us on a level in the Premier league but happy to remain open minded, and in KM I trust. |
That’s not an unreasonable pov. I guess we do need a squad and we are fast tracking upgrades on what we had last season, accelerating things costs money, it won’t work every time as we found in the first year of GC20, there will be occasions this year that we pay up when we might not otherwise done. There is the counter argument along the lines that KMcK has tended to get performances and improvements out of most coachable players. I would assume SS has demonstrated he is coachable or developed his game over the years. I haven’t really paid much attention to him but certainly hope this ends towards the positive outcome! | |
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| Szmodics today? on 14:58 - Jul 29 with 5202 views | Europablue |
| Szmodics today? on 12:34 - Jul 29 by ipswichtillidie |
Good assessment of the situation so far. I do think Szmodics though is hitting his stride and like Marcus Stewart at 28 when we signed him was value for money. He has all the attributes and tore up the Championship last season in a struggling side. |
Stewart is a very good analogy, the fees are roughly the same considering football inflation.
The main difference being that Szmodics would join us in the Premier League.
I'm totally for the signing. He will either help keep us up or fire us back into the Premier League at the first attempt.
KM just won't accept players who he doesn't want. We might not get our first choices especially if clubs like Aston Villa are in for the same players, but we have done really well so far. | | | |
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