| Closing in on Broja on 20:17 - Aug 20 with 3834 views | strikalite |
| Closing in on Broja on 19:38 - Aug 20 by MK1 |
Thanks for that, I genuinely had no idea about the lad. Sound very, very promising, so exited to see him in a Town shirt. I guess we will be paying for potential, but that is exactly what McKenna will bring out of him. |
On the home page "Town closing in on Broja".....second video down on the page is worth a look... |  | |  |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:23 - Aug 20 with 3747 views | Vic |
| Closing in on Broja on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Trequartista |
If true this will mean Sarmiento can’t join on loan because of the two loan limit, which is fair enough considering the quality of these loans. |
I think the quality we’ve got in show exactly why we didn’t signed Sarmy up again. Clear upgrades on an already good player.
Squad is starting to look decent now. Time will tel if it’s good enough. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 20:26 - Aug 20 with 3712 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Closing in on Broja on 19:36 - Aug 20 by Trequartista |
What happens if we stay up and the player doesn’t want to sign a contract with Ipswich or demands £3m a week ? |
That will all be worked out in the loan contract. The obligation will be mutual. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 20:30 - Aug 20 with 3639 views | ReusersTown |
| Closing in on Broja on 18:37 - Aug 20 by victorysquad |
We don”t really have a choice but to be ambitous imo
Need more in defence too, think leif might be better off moving forward and letting townsend plug in left back |
What does that even mean? There obviously is a choice and there are also levels of ambition. |  | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:33 - Aug 20 with 3600 views | belgablue |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:17 - Aug 20 by strikalite |
On the home page "Town closing in on Broja".....second video down on the page is worth a look... |
The only thing that concerns me from the highlights reel is he's wearing gloves in a few of those games. Hopefully KM can coach that out of him. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 20:33 - Aug 20 with 3597 views | MK1 |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:17 - Aug 20 by strikalite |
On the home page "Town closing in on Broja".....second video down on the page is worth a look... |
Thanks. Don't really like those highlight videos, as they ain't going to show his bad bits. That though showed a good selection of finishes. Mainly right footed, but a few left footed finishes and some decent headers. Seems like a good finisher from that. Cheers. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 20:38 - Aug 20 with 3552 views | Len_Brennan |
| Closing in on Broja on 19:38 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
"Broja knows the league, has thrived there before..."
He has? |
Are you aware of his loan at Southampton? | | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:49 - Aug 20 with 3456 views | Europablue |
| Closing in on Broja on 19:36 - Aug 20 by Trequartista |
What happens if we stay up and the player doesn’t want to sign a contract with Ipswich or demands £3m a week ? |
I imagine that he agrees terms now and they just come into effect if we stay up and if we don't he is free to find another club. | | | |
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| Closing in on Broja on 21:10 - Aug 20 with 3364 views | Help |
| Closing in on Broja on 18:18 - Aug 20 by MillsTash |
Aren’t we already at maximum squad size? Ladapo lined up somewhere? |
Just because we have given some players numbers does not mean that is the players to be declared to the FA/Prem. We have until the window closes to get in and get out who we want and dont want.
Freddie is out one way or the other, loan, sold or let go. Others may well follow. Some are not good enough for the prem and have done their bit. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 21:13 - Aug 20 with 3331 views | pointofblue |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:38 - Aug 20 by Len_Brennan |
Are you aware of his loan at Southampton? |
I'd argued thrived is stretching it.Hopefully McKenna can get the best out of him.
I wouldn't be so worried about the loan. Or the obligation to buy if it wasn't as high as £30m. But the amount is concerning me slightly. | |
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| Closing in on Broja on 21:16 - Aug 20 with 3296 views | bournemouthblue |
| Closing in on Broja on 18:28 - Aug 20 by MK1 |
Is he any good? Honestly, no idea. Looked at his stats and they ain't that good, but I tend to make an opinion once they play for us. Just have no idea if this is going to be a very good signing or not. |
Looks fast, has a good touch and able to hold the ball up |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 21:20 - Aug 20 with 3218 views | Blaggers12 |
| Closing in on Broja on 19:16 - Aug 20 by Asa |
A player who will likely still be worth £20m - £25m even if he completely flops here.
That's the thing about these players worth insane money is that they don't lose value massively quickly even after a poor spell.
Same reason that Hirst didn't lose value after failing to do anything at Blackburn and Rotherham. If he'd scored 25 he'd have been worth £15m to Leicester but when he didn't he was still worth the £1.5m or so they'd have valued him at beforehand when he'd done nothing. Broja is just as unproven a level up.
It's like that but just for silly money. [Post edited 20 Aug 2024 19:17]
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Agreed. Broadhead, Hirst, Davis, Chaplin etc were all good if not prolific players at their previous clubs, but under our manager/system have flourished. | | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 21:27 - Aug 20 with 3173 views | _clive_baker_ |
Not overly concerned about the future purchase price. The only scenario where we’re wedded to that is if we stay up, at which point we get another year of premier league money and parachute payments are higher for longer, at that point it’s a nice problem to have and in that respect it’s very sensible to phase back such signings.
As others have said, the worst case scenario is we stay up despite Broja rather than in any part thanks to him. In which case we’ve maybe over paid by £10m for a player, but we can probably still flog him. I also make that unlikely given the due diligence we’ll have done. |  | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 21:40 - Aug 20 with 3048 views | Asa |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:33 - Aug 20 by belgablue |
The only thing that concerns me from the highlights reel is he's wearing gloves in a few of those games. Hopefully KM can coach that out of him. |
Never did Sir Marcus any harm. | | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 22:08 - Aug 20 with 2852 views | J2BLUE |
| Closing in on Broja on 19:27 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
Yes, I'd be happier if that was part of the deal. Cajuste's deal is fine because, in reality, £10m - £15m is not much for a Premier League survival but £30m is very different. |
He's very good though. I didn't believe the rumours when we were first linked as thought he was way out of our league.
Really liked him at Southampton. £30m will seem a snip at the end of the season. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 23:03 - Aug 20 with 2597 views | BondiBlue |
| Closing in on Broja on 21:27 - Aug 20 by _clive_baker_ |
Not overly concerned about the future purchase price. The only scenario where we’re wedded to that is if we stay up, at which point we get another year of premier league money and parachute payments are higher for longer, at that point it’s a nice problem to have and in that respect it’s very sensible to phase back such signings.
As others have said, the worst case scenario is we stay up despite Broja rather than in any part thanks to him. In which case we’ve maybe over paid by £10m for a player, but we can probably still flog him. I also make that unlikely given the due diligence we’ll have done. |
We need to think of it as a buy now pay later deal. We're basically buying him now for 30 million and if we go down, we sell him straight back to them for 30 million. The reason we're doing it as a loan first is probably because we've run out of cash for this season. | |
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| Closing in on Broja on 23:34 - Aug 20 with 2470 views | cressi |
| Closing in on Broja on 18:45 - Aug 20 by MK1 |
Southampton not interested? |
Bought Archer can't afford him now. | | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 00:52 - Aug 21 with 2312 views | itfctilidie |
| Closing in on Broja on 23:03 - Aug 20 by BondiBlue |
We need to think of it as a buy now pay later deal. We're basically buying him now for 30 million and if we go down, we sell him straight back to them for 30 million. The reason we're doing it as a loan first is probably because we've run out of cash for this season. |
Or sensibly keeping some aside for January |  | | |
| Closing in on Broja on 02:54 - Aug 21 with 2202 views | ArchiRob |
| Closing in on Broja on 20:33 - Aug 20 by belgablue |
The only thing that concerns me from the highlights reel is he's wearing gloves in a few of those games. Hopefully KM can coach that out of him. |
he goes as anywhere near ad well as Marcus Stewart in gloves the ITFC shop will sell them |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 06:19 - Aug 21 with 2040 views | PioneerBlue |
A lot of cash but all the attributes for our system. Height, pace, power, age profile, has come through a decent academy system, has been coached by decent managers, has had a few loans to get into senior football, point to prove.
This is a glorious time to support ITFC.
“All” we have to do is extract value from the deal! | |
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| Closing in on Broja on 06:24 - Aug 21 with 2011 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Closing in on Broja on 23:03 - Aug 20 by BondiBlue |
We need to think of it as a buy now pay later deal. We're basically buying him now for 30 million and if we go down, we sell him straight back to them for 30 million. The reason we're doing it as a loan first is probably because we've run out of cash for this season. |
Or because Chelsea want the money in next seasons accounts for FFP purposes
Personally think we can file the scenario of him being a flop but us staying up under ‘nice problem to have’ |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 07:38 - Aug 21 with 1862 views | J2BLUE |
| Closing in on Broja on 06:24 - Aug 21 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Or because Chelsea want the money in next seasons accounts for FFP purposes
Personally think we can file the scenario of him being a flop but us staying up under ‘nice problem to have’ |
Really can't see the only clause being that we stay up. Ashton isn't daft. | |
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| Closing in on Broja on 08:39 - Aug 21 with 1636 views | pointofblue |
| Closing in on Broja on 07:38 - Aug 21 by J2BLUE |
Really can't see the only clause being that we stay up. Ashton isn't daft. |
Being contingent on agreeing a contract with Broja muddies the waters slightly. I suppose that could mean we have the opportunity to not offer a contract, or offer something which we know won't be agreeable to him. On the flip side, it opens up the possibility to Chelsea that, if he does well, someone else can come in for him and create a bidding war. It's a safety net for us and, if he does well here, you'd think we'd piece together a competitive contract and he would want to stay. | |
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| Closing in on Broja on 08:41 - Aug 21 with 1614 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Closing in on Broja on 08:39 - Aug 21 by pointofblue |
Being contingent on agreeing a contract with Broja muddies the waters slightly. I suppose that could mean we have the opportunity to not offer a contract, or offer something which we know won't be agreeable to him. On the flip side, it opens up the possibility to Chelsea that, if he does well, someone else can come in for him and create a bidding war. It's a safety net for us and, if he does well here, you'd think we'd piece together a competitive contract and he would want to stay. |
That’s not how an ‘obligation to buy (if we stay up)’ works though. A contract with him will be agreed now for when he (hopefully) signs permanently once we secure our status in the Prem for next season.
I saw another tweet mention that his permanent contract has already been agreed to 2029. |  |
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| Closing in on Broja on 08:48 - Aug 21 with 1544 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Closing in on Broja on 07:38 - Aug 21 by J2BLUE |
Really can't see the only clause being that we stay up. Ashton isn't daft. |
Why not? It works both ways - if he is a rousing success then the fee may look a complete bargain and/or we would have had competition to sign him
Chelsea may be seen as a basket case but they are notoriously hard nosed when selling players and no mugs in that area - why would they agree to the deal if we had easy get outs?
As someone else has pointed out, we are in effect buying him this season but structured in a way that doesn’t cripple us if we go down, and presumably a financial standpoint that works for both | |
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